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As a long time Joe Lieberman supporter... |
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...and centrist Democrat, I salute and congratulate Ned Lamont and his many supporters. Lamont ran the better campaign, and earned his victory as a Democrat from the people of Connecticut.
I know that my stance is widely unpopular, but also know that I am not alone. I hope people can remember that we are all Democrats who want to see a much-deserved victory for the party in 2006 and 2008, and that all sides can now come together to minimize the strife and division that might otherwise help the GOP.
Democrats, not Independents (I'm talking to you, Joe), not Greens, but Democrats.
Now, I'm having a little drink to toast a coming victory in 2006 - and 2008. Anyone care to join me?
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:47 PM
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1. So you are behind Lamont 100% |
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Financially and physically?
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:51 PM
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22. I support Lamont as the choice of the Democrats of CT. |
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He would not have been my choice, but I respect the voice of the people there.
As to your question, I will not get physical with him, and I give financially only in local and state politics. But if I were in CT, I would not support Lieberman's proposed run as an Independent, and think his doing so will hurt the party.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:38 PM
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66. If not already considered, might I suggest .... |
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... calling of your Dem Rep/Sen, if applicable, to urge them to contact Lieberman and ask him to reconsider? (for the good of all Dem candidates in the wider general election campaign)
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:47 PM
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2. I have a leg up on you, cigs.. |
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We have been drinking to this one all night.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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3. You're very gracious. Thank you. Don't mind if I do. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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4. Yeah! I can just taste the victory! Good post. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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5. I'll drink to the blue donkey. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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That was a classy statement, which is more than I can say for Lieberman.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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7. So, do you support and endorse Lamont in the general election? n/t |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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28. Yes, for what my support is worth. He's the Democratic nominee. n/t |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:55 PM
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38. Great! A few more people like you and we can push Joe over the side |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:55 PM
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40. Thank you for supporting those who cast their votes in favor ... |
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of the Democratic nominee.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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as long as you're calling for Joe to bow out, and will work toward making that happen. Now is not the time to rest on our laurels. We need to organize and get our Dem leaders to support Lamont. DU activist corps, anyone?
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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I will proudly join you in a drink and a toast to victory in 2006 & 2008.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:50 PM
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18. Skinner, how about organizing a DU activist corps |
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assignment to encourage our Dem leaders to pressure Lieberman to support the winner of the DEMOCRATIC primary? We need to flex our muscle now, IMHO.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:57 PM
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48. Bayh needs to support the NOMINEE if he wants any traction |
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in the Northest, right? right?
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:56 PM
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At least get him to send a mass e-mail out. I am ready to begin the DU activist corps...speaking of which i think it is time for a post.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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10. you are right so cheers my friend! and my eye is sent on bringing |
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down the real demons ---the neocons and their followers.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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11. If Lieberman had your sense of honor & decency, he might not have lost. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:55 PM
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43. or would not run as an indie. |
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I really thought he'd dump that idea.
I want Gore to come to CT and stump for Lamont.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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12. Vote Democrat in the general election. |
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Take back some control. Bring them home now. Kyoto. Health care. Economy. F*ing idiotic never ending, no way of judging any progreee "war on terror". Cheers
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:49 PM
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Thanks, cigs. What you said meant alot. :)
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:49 PM
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14. I'm from CT. We have a very close race for the candidate (Dem)... |
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for the Governorship. DeStefano is slightly ahead of Malloy. I hope that there is no fighting between them. Because if there is, it will really complicate the entire electoral process in CT come November when coupled with a three-way Senate race.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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Malloy just gave his concession speech. |
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Unlike Lieberman he was very gracious. He said DeStefano has been a good mayor and that Democrats all need to get behind him and support him and make sure he wins in November.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:49 PM
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15. You didn't say if you will vote for the Democratic nominee in the General |
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Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 11:03 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
election, congratulations nonwithstanding...
On edit--rereading your post, you do make it clear. Thanks.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:50 PM
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17. I hope all Lieberman supporters take your lead. |
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If Joe was a true Democrat, he's graciously step aside and support Lamont. He showed his true colors tonight by putting his own selfish goals in front of our party, the people and the future of this country.
Cheers! :toast:
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:50 PM
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19. Sir, you have class and style and principle and I salute you |
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Alas the man you supported seems to have lost those qualities some time ago.
I'm popping the bubbly (domestic saving the good stuff for november).
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:50 PM
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20. That's the spirit. I hope |
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more people come around to thinking that way once a little time goes by and everything sinks in. You are very gracious by the way.
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Say you aren't going to split the Democrats and let the republican win.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:50 PM
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21. I'll have a drink with you because |
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This is how Democracy works.:toast: A party has their primary and picks their candidate who then has the best chance to win. We all lick our wounds (just as the Deaniacs had to do, and the Clark supporters,etc when Kerry won the nomination) and then we support the candidate that the majority chose. I'm glad you are in a positive mood about this. :toast: Now lets join together and kick some republican :kick:.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:51 PM
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23. I'll Gladly Toast To That. And May Joe Take A Lesson From You In Integrity |
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Hear Hear fellow Dem in arms. :toast:
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:52 PM
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24. I am always game for a drink! |
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A toast to our fortunes in November (Indiana will be more blue!).
:toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer:
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:52 PM
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25. I've been really wanting to know how Joe's concession speech went |
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over with Dems who just voted for him today.
How did you like it? How did you take it?
I really am curious.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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27. Irish Whiskey on the rocks with a splash for me !! |
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Irish Democrat Whiskey that IS !!!
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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30. Cheers. You are very honorable. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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31. Yeah, Lamont ran a good race and obviously CT agreed. |
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Appreciate your post. This is what elections are about. What happens next is another story....:shrug:
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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32. Good for you sweetie! |
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But this Californian just donated $$$ to Lamont. To be honest with you, I like Joe. He was my parties nominee for VP and should be Vice President right now. BUT, he's gone over to the dark side and for that I can't forgive him.
I'm pissed that he's going to run against the DEMOCRATIC nominee for Senate in CT. Therefore, I will support the NOMINEE of my party.
People can say "Hey ronnykmarshall .... you don't live in CT ... shit you don't even live in New Jersey ....." I say ..... "Hey, this is my country and I see where my money is needed I send it". Lord know that dumb ass he got running for Gov don't know his ass from a hole in a ground, so I'm gonna send my $$$ to Ned. It's always something.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:54 PM
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33. Uniting as Democrats means we will win - Joe needs to support Ned |
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It's time for Joe to stand down.
Supporting force-feeding Schiavo. Telling rape victims to hike down to the next hospital. Kissing Bush (the faux President, that is). And his solid war in Iraq hard-on.
Those aren't Democratic positions.
You had your shot, Joe.
Step aside and let Democrats lead.
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:54 PM
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Great post. What Lieberman did is disgraceful. The irony - of all the people who know how it is to be screwed by a spoiler candidate...
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36. Well said. You're a true patriot. |
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:54 PM
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37. THIS is how progressives win. We win race by race, taking back our party. |
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We don't run as Independents or Greens, we run and beat Democrats who refuse to be part of a necessary opposition.
Joe must support the Democratic nominee if he is to retain an ounce of credibility.
Cheers to you for an excellent post. :toast:
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:55 PM
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39. You are very gracious.... |
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Hopefully, Mr. Lieberman will take a cue from you and realize the people of Connecticut have spoken! :7
A toast to wins across the board for the Democratic party in 2006 and 2008!! :beer:
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That is how a true party member works...and a republic works. Stand behind the man that is nominated and support 100% whether or not he was your choice or not, you have earned my respect for what its worth :)
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Tue Aug-08-06 10:55 PM
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44. Thank You.... Dewars....a splash of water.... |
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47. You supported Joe pretty loud and hard, cigs... |
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Sorry things didn't work out the way you would have liked.
This is a very gracious, mature thread, and YOU show real class by posting it. So here's to you, man; and to VICTORY in November! :toast:
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:toast: I've been on the losing side of some hard-fought primaries, but we all need to come together as Democrats for the fall.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:00 PM
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51. I'll gladly join you in a drink for a Democratic victory in |
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November 2006 and 2008. As well :applause: for a totally classy post. It's Americans like you that make this country great.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:00 PM
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52. Fight like hell in the primaries |
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Fight as one in the general election. All Democrats welcome here!
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You've got class. :toast:
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54. You got class, ciggy! |
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:02 PM
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55. A very gracious post. Thank you. |
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Let's all get behind all of the DEMOCRATIC nominees.
BTW, I have no problem with intellectually honest Lieberman supporters who are willing to abide by the Democratic primary process. I hope that Lieberman will hear from some of his supporters that he needs to get behind the party, and abandon this divisive indy run.
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58. Thank you to everyone for the many gracious replies. |
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I hope it's a good sign that despite heartfelt and often heated disagreement between Democrats, that we can all come together when it counts.
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Here ~ have a shot of good Canadian whisky on me :)
Cheers!
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:11 PM
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61. I hope more supporters of Lieberman like you write/call him and tell him |
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how you feel about him running as an independent and not being a loyal democrat and respecting the will of the voters.
I personally am calling Senator Boxer's office tommorrow to let her know that her support of Lieberman in the primary was one thing, but that she needs to speak out and even speak to Lieberman to tell him this is a very negative thing for him to do to the Democratic party and the country if he runs as an independent for Senate.
I suggest we all do this and call Dems in the Senate and party to be very clear and vocal against Lieberman. The message needs to be clear that he lost and is not the Dem nominee and his running as an independent is very very negative and harmful. Not to mention it makes him look really, really bad.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:35 PM
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65. We need to continue the fight...email Reid and other senate leaders |
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We must send a barrage of emails to Harry Reid and other members of the Democratic leadership to pressure him to strip Joe of all his committees immediately. He betrayed the party tonight. No one man is bigger than the team.
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68. Agreed. I'll be doing so in Illinois. (Durbin, Obama, Bean) n/t |
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:31 PM
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63. You are right. Supporting Bush's wars is unpopular here. eom |
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:35 PM
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64. First Class Democrat cigsandcoffee |
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:toast: To Our Victory in 2006 & 2008! :toast:
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:39 PM
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67. I don't drink anymore. |
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So have one for me. Cheers. :toast:
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And from the replies, I'm guessing your stance is actually very popular indeed...
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:42 PM
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70. And when a moderate wins, I will throw my support behind them as well. |
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Thank you for being a uniter, not a divider my friend.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:44 PM
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71. thank you for a very nice post!!..and yes i will have a drink with you |
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with all the respect you deserve!!
thank you!!
fly:beer: :beer: :beer:
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:45 PM
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72. How funny, I'm a centrist Democrat and never supported Joe. |
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Guess that's what makes our party so great right?
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I wish that your Joe, your leader was as gracious as you
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you are a true member of the democratic underground in my humble opinion for what is worth.
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Tue Aug-08-06 11:48 PM
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74. Wow. You just blew me out of the water |
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This is perhaps the first of your posts that I agree with---and it is classy. Thank you.
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:05 AM
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76. Let's Split Up 52%-48% And Fight Each Other In A Civil War! |
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By all means, let's not be cohesive in any shape or form. Let's do everything in our power to screw things up and let the repubs roll over us in November. In fact, LET'S HELP THEM!!
:sarcasm: <<necessary?
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now let's kick some ass in november!
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:13 AM
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78. Good for you - and for us! I hope everyone can remember this... |
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...when their candidate loses in the future (or a candidate they don't like wins)!! Excellent role model!!
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:13 AM
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79. You set a fine example. |
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I will remember it as I interact here.
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80. I have a lot of respect for you cigsandcoffee. |
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