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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:56 AM
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Lieberman: "I will not let this result stand."
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:57 AM by Clarkie1
"And secondly, that somehow I am not a real Democrat? It is outrageous."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/08/democratic.primaries/index.html

What a hypocrite. Any real Demcratic leader would obviously respect the results of the Democratic Primary, and support the choice of the Democratic Party voters. If Lieberman wants to run as an independent, fine, he has a right to do so. But the things he said tonight show that his an arrogant jackass, and no "real Demcorat."
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:57 AM
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1. What a radical!
nt
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:59 AM
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2. Jpe: "The voters have spoken but screw 'em, I'm still running even if
they don't want me to."
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:01 AM
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4. Democratic voters have spoken.
If he wants to run as an independent, then he shouldn't go around calling himself a "real Democrat." What a jackass. He ought to be censured by the Democratic leadership, if such a thing is possible.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:59 AM
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3. Is there anything stopping...
...the Democratic Party from demanding that all primary contestants in their primaries sign a legally binding pledge not to run further if they lose the primary?

I mean, I know there are "sore loser" laws in some states, but if a party wanted to do so on their own, is that not within their rights, and interests?

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:01 AM
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6. I don't think that would be possible.
The election laws of the state would overide the pledge.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:23 AM
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25. Ohio repukes put that law in that if you lost an election during the year.
you couldn't run for another office. That's why they are having trouble putting their hand-picked candidate on the ballot, she lost a primary for lieutenant governor. I think it would have to be a state law, not a democratic pledge. And signing loyalty pledges is no better than the hand-picked audiences that * speaks to.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:24 AM
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27. Delete
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 01:24 AM by Nutmegger
Delete
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:01 AM
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5. If you go ahead and run in November
you are DEFINITELY not ANY kind of Democrat, Joe.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:03 AM
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9. No, he isn't.
In fact, it will make him the anti-Democrat.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:02 AM
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7. I remember when Joe claimed to have tied for 3rd place in NH in '04......
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 01:03 AM by FrenchieCat
where he came in fifth, out of five!

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:05 AM
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11. I hope Clark campaigns for Lamont.
It would help nullify any "stonger on national security" shit Lieberman might try to pull.

Also...it would be sweet given all the, you know, history...Lieberman telling Clark he wasn't a "real Democrat" in the 04' debate.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:03 AM
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8. It's shame he didn't fight this hard in 2000 and 2004...
He pretty much rolled over for Shrub during the 2000 election, and chided John Kerry in 2004.

Quit, Joe, Quit!
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:04 AM
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10. Huh?
"I will not let this result stand."

Uh Joe, I don't think you have any choice. The voters have spoken and you are not the Democratic nominee.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:08 AM
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15. He really made an arrogant jackass out of himself tonight.
That statement is just unbelieveably arrogant. I've never heard a poltician talk like that...saying the "won't let" the results of an election stand. If he wants to run as an independent that's one thing, but he showed a really ugly side of himself in his statements tonight.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:07 AM
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12. The next 48 hours
Joe's going to find out that stabbing the Democratic Party in the back will net him about as much support as Yakov Smirnoff's career these days:



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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:15 AM
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17. In Soviet Connecticut, television watch you!
I hear Yakov's doing fine in Branson, Missoura, actually.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:18 AM
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20. But that's like being the 47th Beatle!
:)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:10 AM
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49. Yep.
Pretty interesting, actually.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:08 AM
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13. Can you imagine...
...what Lieberman and his supporters would have said had Lamont lost by 4% and then gone on to announce he'd run as an independent in November?

:nuke:

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:08 AM
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14. zzzzz
:boring:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:10 AM
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16. Okay, wait a minute. Are you not the person who has been arguing
Lieberman SHOULD run as an independent because all of Connecticut should have a chance to vote on who should be its senator?

I'm confused where you stand.

It sounds like you're jumping on the winning band wagon.

Maybe I'm wrong? :shrug:
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:16 AM
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18. I did, but these statements are unbelieveably arrogant.
Where is, "I respect the will of the Democratic voters of Connecticut." Or, "I will be running as an idependent, not a member of the Democratic Party."

What is this "I will not let these results stand; I'm a real Democrat" shit?

I gave the gut the benefit of the doubt eventhough I disagee with his foreign policy views, but now he's really shown himself to be an arrogant jackass. He has no business calling himself a "real Democrat."

I'm seriously shocked by the statements he made tonight. I would have expected a lot more humility and respect and deference for the Democratic Party voters....especially if he's going to call himself a "real Democrat."

I wish he'd leave the party entirely, then I'd have just a little bit of respect for him.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:21 AM
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22. Hi Clarkie1!
Come on folks, Joe shows his true colors and people change their minds. What is wrong with that? Looks like Clarkie1 had a change of heart, wish Joe would have a change of heart and not run at all.

:hi:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:22 AM
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24. I thought you agreed with his foreign policy?
Guess I misread all your posts.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:30 AM
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30. Absolutely not.
Iraq was and is a huge mistake.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:34 AM
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34. My apologies, then.
I was assuming, based on more recent events.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:30 AM
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31. Not only a "real democrat"...but an INDEPENDENT DEMOCRAT!
F*cking Judas.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:36 AM
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35. Bud.....you're not making any sense.
The minute he said he was going to run as an independent was the minute he insinuated he was not going to let the results stand.....the minute he was not going to respect the will of the Democratic voters of Connecticut and the minute he became an arrogant jackass.

I read your posts, and you're far more intelligent than acting all outraged and surprised by what he said tonight.

He'd been planning every word he said and he's been planning every course of action he's about to take.

Come on! :)
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:57 AM
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38. I thought he would say he was running as an independent, not a Democrat.
Saying he will not let the results stand (as if it's his decision) and that he's the "real Democrat" is unbelievably arrogant. He didn't have to say those things. He could have shown respect fot the Party that rejected him, instead he said he was the real Democrat.

It was a truly disgusting display this evening, and yes it did shock me.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:10 AM
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43. Alright, fine......I just can't imagine how there's anyone on earth who
could be surprised or shocked by his behavior.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:46 AM
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52. i knew that speech was a bad idea
when i heard it last night i knew he was pissing off the wrong people
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:20 AM
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21. Also the author of board spam
of endless valentines to Joe for STANDING TALL for whatever. Go figure.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:23 AM
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26. ...
:spray:
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:33 AM
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33. Look, I was pointing out that he voted Democratic on many issues.
I stand behind those posts 100%. I have neither contributed to the Lieberman campaign, nor the Lamont campaign. I am not a resident of Connecticut so until this point have been an interested observer. I am delighted that Lamont is the candidate, as I agree with him on more issues than I do Lieberman.

Moreover, Lieberman has shown himself to be an arrogant jackass tonight with his disgusting behavior.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:18 AM
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19. This is leadership.....from the a former
Chairman of the DLC
and Senator.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:21 AM
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23. joe should listen to democrats, not bush
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:25 AM
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28. This is what did it for me.
I was always for Lamont since the beginning but what pushed me over to become a rabid Lamont supporter is when LIEberman came out and said he would run as and Indy anyways.

Hey, he has that choice but don't participate in the primary. That's just a big "screw you" to all of us who voted.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:27 AM
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29. Way back in the day I supported Holy Joe, before the kiss and
his seemingly undying support for George Bush. That kiss is what did it for me. 'Sleeping with the enemy' just can't be tolerated.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:55 AM
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37. Yes Rex, and if you're going to sleep with the enemy, they should be
at least a little bit cute!

Otherwise, it just can't be tolerated!!! ;)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:58 AM
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39. LOL!
You have a choice, Joe or George, what do you do...WHAT DO YOU DO!?!?! ;)
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:05 AM
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41. Prally this:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:10 AM
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42. You owe me a clean monitor!
:spray:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:13 AM
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45. Awww, that's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me :)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:18 AM
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46. Well as your official spokesperson, it is my job to be a suck-up toady!
I hear that's how you make it into the upper levels of society. I'm working on getting you a gig with Miller on Fauxnews as his witty counter-point man. Gold I tell you!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:33 AM
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47. Sweet! BTW, What is your opinion of Hezbollah?
:spray:

On second, thought, never mind.

I'll discuss it with Miller :)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:37 AM
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48. Hezbollah? Who the hell are they? Is that an old hair band?
Miller says 'who loves ya baby' (cheap Kojak imitation). :spank:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:33 AM
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32. Um joe, when you said you were running indy you said you
weren't a democrat.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:36 AM
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36. You won't "let this result stand?" Gee, Joe...
...I sure wish you'd taken that attitude in November 2000! :grr:

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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:03 AM
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40. I was listening to CSPAN
and the pukes are absolutely GIDDY about the prospect of Lieberman as an Independent. All the wonderful things they were lavishing him with today weren't what they were saying in 2000. Wake up Joe, the pukes aren't your friends, just ask Kat Harris!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:11 AM
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44. Crazy....nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:14 AM
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50. Joe just keeps diggin' that hole he's in deeper.
"Independent Democrat"? Does he think we're fucking stupid?

He really does belong in the Republican Party, he's got the Orwellian language down pat.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:16 AM
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51. "...that somehow I am not a real Democrat? It is outrageous."
as he announces his candidacy as an indie?

No Joe, that's whats really outrageous.
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