Marty Peretz: Joe lost, Clinton's fault

[charlie]

Yep, that's what he says. How's that for gratitude?

THE CLINTON FACTOR:

I was for Joe Lieberman. I wrote an article about the race between him and Ned Lamont in Monday's Wall Street Journal. It was not neutral. But, though it got plenty of attention in the blogs and on television, it did not, alas, help Joe very much. Worse can be said of Bill Clinton's stumping in Connecticut for Joe (and Hillary's endorsement, too.) When Clinton came into the state, Lieberman and Lamont were running dead even in the polls, more or less. Clinton's appearance began Lieberman's decline. Within two or three days, Lieberman was down by ten points. (In the last few days of the campaign, Lieberman recovered considerably ... but not enough.) I know there's some nostalgia in the Democratic Party for Clinton and for Hillary, too. But for many, in the party and out, the Clintons are a nightmare. A nightmare, as James Joyce said, from which we are trying to awake. The common wisdom is that Al Gore would have won in 2000 had he embraced Clinton more or had he allowed Clinton to embrace him. Well, look at what happened to Joe.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=29876

[depakid]

1. LOL... Well if that's so

Hat's off to Bill! :evilgrin:

[Cha]

19. We owe him a big fat

THANK YOU, BILL! Do ya think he had that in mind when he agreed to come to Connecticut? I don't think so.

[TomClash]

2. Another tiresome Neo-con

Frankly, Clinton had nothing to do with it.

[rpannier]

3. Yeah that awful Clinton nightmare

Low gas prices, low unemployment, budget surpluses, international respect. Thank God they're over.
:sarcasm:

[BOSSHOG]

7. And don't forget

Soldiers not getting killed for political reasons. And weapons inspectors neutering Iraq. Iraq did not have WMD, now that was Clinton's fault.

[NoPasaran]

11. Eight years of peace, eight years of prosperity

How did we ever survive?

[Ganja Ninja]

4. The Clenis strikes again!

It's EVIL I tells ya!

[hatrack]

15. Never underestimate its Earth-shaking power!

All hail CLENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HereSince1628]

5. Oh Crikey, it's Bill Clinton's fault!?

[rfranklin]

9. Actually, the Clenis screwed Lieberman...

the size of its impact cannot be ignored.

[BOSSHOG]

6. Bill Clinton, A Nightmare?

from which we are trying to awake? And when you wake up george bush has been president for 5+ years - obviously not taken into consideration by the writer. I believe the author is a fucking idiot.

[Cassandra]

10. A year or so ago, Peretz wrote an editorial on Israel...

with which I agreed, and said so on DU. I profoundly apologize for even posting agreement with Peretz's words on DU; really he is too much of an ass.

[Mist]

8. Really? I thought it was the Bush-kiss factor. nt

[Torgo Johnson]

12. James Joyce has been dead for 65 years...

How would he know what the Clinton presidency was like?

It's hilarious. Clinton just switched his support to Lamont overnight and the DLC toadies
at The New Republic are already going after him.

[marmar]

13. They never miss a chance to blame Clinton for anything...

He was also responsible for last week's heat and the Red Sox' fall from first place.

[Jim__]

14. What an idiot!

The only evidence he offers is the classic post hoc fallacy.

[charlie]

20. Well, it can't be Joe

TNR is the house organ for the Church of Joe. It can't be Lamont, Joe getting KOed by that dweeb would be... unseemly. Marty's already spilled rivers of ink on the Leftwing Internet Menace, to no avail. So, unlucky Bill, Marty's run out of options, it's his day in the box.

What's reeeally weird is that Marty is even more smitten with Gore than Lieberman. If there's a Dem heavyweight who could be called the anti-Joe, it'd be Al, yet Peretz would dump Joe in a flash for another Gore candidacy.

[bigwillq]

16. Clinton did as much for Joe as

Sharpton and Jackson did for Lamont. Not much, imo.

In the end, people voted with their gut rather than with the public heads who were standing next to the candidates.

[bridgit]

17. pft...

:spray:

[Cha]

18. Blame it on clenis? Or desperation?

Or simply more people were being made aware of joe'shypocricy?(yes, all one word.)