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Thu Jan-19-06 04:36 PM
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CNN, if you can stand turning it on.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:41 PM
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1. For Kerry, I'll tune in. Thanks for the info! n/t |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:42 PM
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2. Again? On who's show this time? |
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He must be in Iraq by now. I bet they're asking about the Bin Laden tape.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:45 PM
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3. Care to give a summary for us cableless DUers? |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:47 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 04:47 PM by DoYouEverWonder
He's there now. Sounding and looking very presidential.
Says we can't win militarily? YAHOO! Go, Johnny, Go.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:48 PM
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5. Wolfie - Would you join the military today? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 04:52 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Kerry - Absolutely.
How about you Chicken Hawk Wolfie?
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:49 PM
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6. What a stab in Murtha's back. |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:50 PM
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7. He is entitled to his opinions as Murtha is. |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:52 PM
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8. Sure. But he could have answered in a way that didn't stab Murtha. |
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And the Dems wonder why they're seen as spineless.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:52 PM
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9. I did not see him - What did he actually said. |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:56 PM
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12. Wolf quoted Murtha's earlier stmts - he wouldn't join today's army |
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Then right after the quote, Wolf asks Kerry "would YOU join" today?
Kerry answered he would, but he failed to respect Murtha's position first.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:59 PM
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16. Well Wolfie's trick worked |
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throw out a red herring question and redirect everyone attention from the substance of what Kerry was talking about. Kerry made a lot of important statements here but you'd rather waste time putting him down.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:18 PM
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Happens all the time. Falling for RW divisive chatter is a pet peeve right now and they are pulling out all the stops to make that happen at every turn. Yet Dems fail to see the pattern and fall for the trap every time. Jumping to conclusions without the whole story is another one of my pet peeves.
Murtha and Kerry are both militarily minded and as with anything else, there are no two people who will agree on absolutely everything. Kerry didn't dis Murtha just because of this statement.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:29 PM
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34. Exactly, and over such a small point. n/t |
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:06 PM
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21. that is such bullshit. that is what kerry is. he absolutely would |
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join again, why he joined in vietnam at the height of the danger. you as dissing him for this, or would you prefer he not give an honest answer. and example of his courage, evidence of who he is. doesnt have to be a diss to murtha, only if you chose.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:09 PM
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24. Especially since he was in the Navy. Totally different from Murtha |
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Maybe he meant he'd join the Navy again. Did Wolfie actually say "Army" or did he say "military?"
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:11 PM
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26. i thought it was the military |
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:27 PM
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33. Murtha has not supported Kerry at all even though Kerry has stood |
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up for him and the Swift Boating. besides, this was an honest answer from Kerry. I see nothing wrong with it nor do I think it was necessary to acknowledge Murtha's position- especially if he doesn't agree with it.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:57 PM
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14. He's in Iraq right now |
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talking about how to get the situation under control. He said we can't win militarily, it has to be done politically. This is an important move for Kerry.
Gore started it. Reid is coming on strong. Leahy just said he won't vote for Alito, now Kerry makes appearance to state his Iraq policy. Looks like the Dems are ready to take charge again.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:07 PM
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22. Yes, we need more to follow |
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Obama, Edwards (though he isn't in the Senate anymore) are coming on strong too.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:21 PM
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31. That's why Rove pulled the Osama trick again today |
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When he's really up against it, he can always count on Osama.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:22 PM
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:08 PM
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23. Kerry's been saying there's no military success in Iraq since October |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 05:17 PM by blm
when he submitted his Iraq withdrawal plan He was adamant that only political success can be won.
Then when Murtha said the same later on, Kerry reiterated that point yet again.
Too bad the media doesn't report it or discuss it - instead they focus on defining Murtha's withdrawal plan as a surrender plan from Dems, completely obfuscating Murtha's actual plans and other Dems actual proposals that call for similar measures.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:12 PM
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27. yup, right on blm n/t |
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:53 PM
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11. He is saying what they want to hear... |
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Wolf Bitzer was trying to set him up, to start up another fake controversy. Kerry knows damn well he would not volunteer knowing all that he knows. Thats whats wrong with the dems that makes me angry, afraid to tell the truth. DON'T RUN KERRY!
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:11 PM
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25. why would you assume he wouldnt join, his history shows more he would join |
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but instead you would rather make a whole story up on what kerry is really all about to diss him, with no factual proof or even past experience that would dictate otherwise.
i am always amazed at the attacks on kerry when he speaks out. by the same dems that say dems are wusses and dont speak out.
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Thu Jan-19-06 06:00 PM
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38. How in the hell do you know what i speak out about on a daily basis.. |
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I don't have to make up a story about kerry he's doing the same thing he did during the election playing their game. He was on Bitzers' show yesterday and answered questions, he shouldn't have shown up today repugs are giving Bitzer the questions to put him on the spot, they know he will answer a certain way trying to be politically correct as they see it.PAST EXPERIENCE: 2004 CAMPAIGN!
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Thu Jan-19-06 06:08 PM
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40. your whole post is of assumption, and you deciding answers |
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with actually no factual basis. and you are wanted to be taken serious. to be believed, when it is evident your whole post is agenda based, in assumptions.
you dont know shit,...... about why kerry answered as he did. so to put out that you do just isnt true.
you guess. and from kerry's history the guess looks to be wrong from my guess. at least i look at kerry's history, to make my guess. btw, in guessing, i dont know shit either. the difference is i will admit i dont know shit. that it is just a guess
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Fri Jan-20-06 02:33 PM
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41. You don't know shit about me! |
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I don't give a fuck if you take me seriously or not.I GUESS you need to get your head out of Kerry's ass, I don't have an agenda but I do have and opinion. I GUESS...DON'T RUN KERRY! YOU SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN UP IN 2004.
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Fri Jan-20-06 03:20 PM
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42. you are right, i do not know shit about you |
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see how easy that is. i dont know. not hard to say. but then here you are assuming once again about what you equally dont know about me. my head isnt up kerry's ass. i am just fed up with people interpreting without knowing shit, acting like they know shit. so no, i dont have my ass up kerry's ass. just another assumptions of yours that doesnt mean shit.
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Sat Jan-21-06 06:32 PM
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43. I see that you are very well informed about Kerry,,, |
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you have finally came out for air. I realize that you don't have to assume or guess because you are ready to fight for your losing cause. It is not that serious! I don't have to assume because I know: 1. Kerry didn't speak up during the campaign.
2. Kerry didn't fight back when it counted.
3. Kerry was the wrong candidate to run against bush!
DON'T RUN KERRY!
I SEE YOUR BACK TO ASSUMING WHAT I KNOW,AS A MATTER OF FACT I DON'T KNOW SHIT, I KNOW FACTS.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:38 PM
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35. I doubt a statement from kerry claiming he would join the military again, |
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but Murtha wouldn't will be real big news- especially with the Bin laden tape in the news.
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Thu Jan-19-06 06:03 PM
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39. Thats the point it isn't news ... |
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but they will act like it is , just to get the focus off of bushco. I really believe that Kerry wants that anyway because he running for pres again.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:56 PM
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13. Why is it a stab in Murtha's back? That's what Wolf's trying to do, and |
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YOU are the one reacting exactly as Wolf intended with his question.
Kerry's answer doesn't stab Murtha, no matter how Wolf spins it.
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:57 PM
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15. All Kerry had to do was say, "while I respect Murtha's position..." |
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Is there EVER a time when these politicians aren't campaigning?
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:00 PM
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17. Better or worse than Murtha 'stab in the back on 60 Minutes? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 05:01 PM by Mass
Please, give us a break. Kerry has been defending Murtha when he was attacked by the GOP.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:02 PM
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18. Is there ever a time when the reaction won't be kneejerk? YOU are |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 05:02 PM by blm
completely and purposely exaggerating Kerry's response when his response was simply that he would. He didn't say anything against Murtha but you want people to believe he did.
Isn't that EXACTLY what Wolf intended?
Nice of you to oblige.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:13 PM
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28. kerry was the first, strongest voice and leader in defending murtha |
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but find a reason to diss the man, that is truly the smart way to go
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:43 PM
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37. Maybe he personal doesn't like Murtha's position on this issue, |
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and rather than lie and look bad doing it, he said nothing other than to directly answer the questions asked of him.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:41 PM
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36. You've Got To Be Kidding |
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Kerry, A war hero, strong leader and our rightful president, has a right to express honesty doesn't he? If that's honestly how he feels more power to him. I wouldn't have expected him to answer any other way actually.
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Sat Jan-21-06 06:36 PM
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44. They can have their own opinions you know |
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Murtha might not but how do you know abuot Kerry? He did ask to go to Vietnam and then came back and protested.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:04 PM
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19. how about chicken hawk president, lets ask him |
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not only join, but check the box to go over seas, oh that is funny
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Thu Jan-19-06 04:53 PM
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10. Kerry - have to find a political solution |
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Looks like the DEMS are waking up from their slumber. Time to kick some BushCO butt.
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Thu Jan-19-06 05:16 PM
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29. Kerry handled himself well. He'll never win over a certain segment of Dems |
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and I think he realizes this as he continues to stake out his own ground.
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