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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:17 PM
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I heard that Lieberman said he would only serve three terms in 1988.
Can some one help me. Here's what I have heard.

At a debate with Lowell Weicker in 1988, Lieberman said that a Senator should never serve more than 18 years, of course, Weicker was in his 18th year. He then turned to the camera, raised his right hand and pledged to "the voters of Connecticut" that he would not serve more than 18 years as senator if he were elected in 1988.

Is this true? does anyone have the video. If so, this ball game is over, wouldn't you agree?
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:20 PM
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1. I heard the same thing last night
I believe it was a caller on C-span
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:23 PM
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4. That's it, that's where I heard it
but is it true and can we prove it?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:21 PM
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2. Well, technically for the last few years, he's been a boot licker
and not a Senator.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:22 PM
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3. Joe "When they pry it from my cold dead hands" Lieberman?
:rofl:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:01 PM
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22. I find it amusing that the folks who heap such anger toward Lieberman
are sporting the avatar of the man who gave him such national prominence.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:22 PM
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28. O.K. Blame it on Gore, maybe you can blame 9-11 on Gore...or
Iraq..and the Defecite....as I recall he left office fighting to the end, after January 2001 ,didn't preside over the Senate,,, I might just have to change my Avatar again.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:19 PM
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29. I will blame Gore for a) Picking an ass like Lieberman and b)
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 11:20 PM by Tom Joad
supporting deadly sanctions against Iraq.

He fought till the end? that's not i remember what happened after the Florida debacle.

Edited to add... Keep on truckin!
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:23 PM
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5. Make a nice campaign commercial

Like "Read My Lips"
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:16 PM
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15. You ain't kidding
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:11 PM
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24. This should be the FIRST campaign commercial...
and Lamont should get the video clip...if available...up on those television screens pronto!

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:23 PM
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6. If so, it would make a heck of a campaign
commercial.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:28 PM
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7. that's what I thought
but does anyone know for sure?

If so, where's the tape?
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:37 PM
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11. Commercial material definately
right up there with his trashing of Lamont during the concession speech and his babbling about divisive politics as he betrays his own party.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:00 PM
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17. We have to find the clip
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:32 PM
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8. This is THE answer to getting Joe to go - home. Lamont needs to track
this down and show it. Just a few times should do it. There has to be a copy of it somewhere. I know there were clips on Dean in some of Vermont's boring business meetings - meaning that there is a copy of everything out there somewhere. I assume someone will come up with it - or at least the script - the video would be better , but the transcript will do.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:35 PM
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9. make sure countdown gets it. eom
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:36 PM
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10. that would be a great ad if it can be found.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:47 PM
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12. he's full of poop
and he's an embarrassment.
imagine running for VP and senator at the same time. that is when he jumped the shark.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:58 PM
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13. Did you search here ?
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:43 PM
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14. has anybody been able to find a video or a transcript?
I have come up empty so far with google searches
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:21 PM
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16. Randi would love this!
Keeped this kicked and maybe someone can find a clip.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:31 PM
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18. ! nt
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:39 PM
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19. It could have very well been during a speech at this rotary club meeting
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2006/notebook/ct1.html

Lieberman v. Lamont: The Throw Down

The candidate was trying to defeat the once-popular incumbent in a race for a U.S. Senate seat from Connecticut.

"You can choose between a senator who has been there 18 years and seems to have lost touch with our common concerns," the challenger told a Rotary luncheon in Bridgeport. "Or you can vote for a senator who will be there when you and your family need him."

Was this 2006 Democratic candidate Ned Lamont on the attack? How timely. How in-your-face. How ... dated.

It turns out the candidate being quoted was Joseph Lieberman -- 18 years ago -- when he was running to defeat Republican Lowell Weicker.

I happen to know he said this because I was there, covering the campaign for The Washington Post. Looking back at the articles I filed on the Weicker-Lieberman race in 1988, my jaw drops at the similarities.


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CrushTheDLC Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:41 PM
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20. If it exists, it will be on YouTube by the end of the week
I swear to God you can find anything on there.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:59 PM
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21. Wellstone said he would serve no more than two terms, and died
while campaigning for his third. It would not end Lieberman.
The lie that should pin him to the ground is that he promised to uphold the US constitution, and by supporting Bush, he most certainly has not.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:08 PM
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23. I think I found it!
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 09:46 PM by Breeze54
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2006/notebook/ct1.html

Lieberman v. Lamont: The Throw Down

The candidate was trying to defeat the once-popular incumbent in a race
for a U.S. Senate seat from Connecticut.

"You can choose between a senator who has been there 18 years
and seems to have lost touch with our common concerns,"
the challenger told a Rotary luncheon in Bridgeport.
"Or you can vote for a senator who will be there when you and your family need him."


Was this 2006 Democratic candidate Ned Lamont on the attack?
How timely. How in-your-face. How ... dated.

It turns out the candidate being quoted was Joseph Lieberman -- 18 years ago
-- when he was running to defeat Republican Lowell Weicker.

I happen to know he said this because I was there, covering the campaign for
The Washington Post.
Looking back at the articles I filed on the Weicker-Lieberman race in 1988,
my jaw drops at the similarities.

snip-->
"Lowell Weicker is not a real Republican," Lieberman said then.
"He's not a real Democrat. He does what he wants when he wants to do it."

Lamont is saying roughly the same thing now.
When we caught up with him at an Irish Festival in Trumbull one weekend in June,
he told me: "Senator Lieberman's got some decisions to make.
He's going to have to decide if he's a Democrat."

And which Lieberman will voters see on Election Day?
The one who beat Lowell Weicker 18 years ago, thanks in part to an endorsement
from Citizens for Reagan and support for the invasion of Grenada?
<--snip

:) Edited to add:

Here's a wealth of info and video's of political speech's!
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/USPolitics.html

1988

The Best of 1988 Political Commercials.
Presents the best non-presidential campaign commercials for the 1988 election
for a wide variety of state and federal public offices.

55 min. Video/C 2356

Best of 1988 Presidential Primary.
Presents the best campaign commercials of the presidential primary of 1988.
Includes ads from the campaigns of Al Haig, Pete de Pont, Mike Dukakis, Paul Simon,
Bob Dole, George Bush, Bruce Babbitt, Jack Kemp, Al Gore, Dick Gephardt, Jack Kemp
and Jesse Jackson. Video/C 2828

Campaign Commercial Review.
C-SPAN live viewer call-in program focuses on TV commercials from campaigns
of Democratic and Republican candidates for the 1988 presidential nominations.
Douglas Bailey, Republican political consultant, and Joe Rothstein, Democratic political consultant,
respond to questions from the C-SPAN moderator and from viewers discussing the influence
of TV commercials in the campaign and analyzing the ingredients of effective commercials.
Examples of commercials are shown. 83 min. Video/C 1905

Republican & Democratic Presidential Campaign Commercials, 1988. Primary Election.
Television spots, usually 30 seconds long, reveal the issues and personalities
of the 1988 presidential primary campaign.
Includes, among others, Republicans Alexander Haig, Robert Dole and George Bush,
Democrats Michael Dukakis, Paul Simon and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Video/C 2354

Republican & Democratic Presidential Campaign Commercials, 1988. General Election.
Commercials for Republican presidential candidate George Bush and Democratic candidate,
Michael Dukakis. Video/C 2829

Republican & Democratic Presidential Campaign Commercials, 1988.
General Election. Television spots, usually 30 seconds long, reveal the issues
in the contest between Republican George Bush and Democrat Michael Dukakis.
48 min. Video/C 2355

Robertson Commercials.
Presents two political campaign commercials of Republican presidential candidate
Pat Robertson for the 1988 election.
Segment from the television program Road to the White House,
aired 9/25/1987. 2 min. Video/C 6940

----------------

:shrug: I tried! ;)

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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:12 PM
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26. Great job finding that!
:thumbsup:
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:11 PM
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25. I just don't think that is important.
Senator Wellstone also said he would only serve two terms, but he was running for a third when he was assassinated.

It all depends on the times, what needs to be done, and who's currently running the show. That is the least of my problems with Lieberman - it was his embrace of chimpy, in more ways than one, that did it for me.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:15 PM
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27. I think it's interesting
that they always want term limits until they are reaching the end of their largely self imposed limits.

I loved Wellstone, and hear what you are saying. Sometimes people have to remain in order to fight the devils.

This is not one of those cases, so I agree with the implication in the original post - Lieberman is a liar who has lost touch with his constituency.
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