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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:16 PM
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Holy Shit! Is Anyone Watchng Lou Dobbs?
The Mexican army operating in the US with Bush approval?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:17 PM
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1. They've been here since Katrina, I think
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:19 PM
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3. I don't think so...
there were undocumented workers cleaning up. I NEVER heard nothing about the Mexican Army.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:21 PM
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5. Google is your friend
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 06:22 PM by DesertedRose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

"On September 8, the Mexican Army was received with honors at Kelly Air Force Base by the mayor of San Antonio, Texas. Local news channels noted the fact that the Mexican Army operated on U.S. soil after 159 years of absence, last time being the Mexican American War."
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:24 PM
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9. Sorry
never read that. I take it all back :blush:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:25 PM
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10. No worries
:hi:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:22 PM
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6. Oh, yes, they were here. They came to help cleanup. Here's a link:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:32 PM
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15. I don't have a link but the mexican army came over after
katrina hit with a kitchen capable of feeding several thousand a day.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:26 PM
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11. Doesn't sound like Katrina cleanup, though....
Sounds like armed incursions along the border in hot pursuit. Not like WE don't pursue people over there, but still...
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:37 PM
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18. They have been doing it long before Katrina.
And Bush knew. And yet the administration was telling the MSM, after Katrina, that it was the first time in 150 years or something, since that Mexican troops had been on U.S. soil.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:17 PM
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2. Oh that will go over well...
What's the story?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:19 PM
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4. Patrolling On Our Side Of Border To Protect Illegals and Drugs Comming In
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 06:22 PM by ThomWV
200 recorded incursions by the Mexican Army, fully armed it seems. Border Patrol personel saying they are intimidated but State saying all is well.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:23 PM
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8. I heard this this morning

apparently they pursue criminals over the border, fire shots in the vincinity of our border patrol etc.

Isn't that an act of war?
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:36 PM
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16. cool! maybe they're gonna take back texas!
the map of the lower 48 would look kinda funny missing that big chunk out of the south, but it would ensure a democratic white house, senate, and congress for years to come!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:41 PM
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20. How exactly? Junior is from CT and the Dick is from WY. KKKarl's from UT
:eyes:
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:51 PM
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23. because we "lost" the last two presidential elections by a much....
...smaller margin than the electoral votes of texas.

further more, we'd be minus kay baily hutchison and john cornyn in the US senate, not to mention we'd clear a lot of human garbage like tom delay out of the house.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:02 PM
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26. That goes for other states, as well. Florida leaps to mind. Or Ohio.
And it's Texas that will be putting BugBoy away soon. Cornyn won't be far behind.

Besides, we 'lost' the two elections for reasons that had nothing to do with actual votes and everything to do with the voting machines. Blaming one state for this mess is sheer nonsense, particularly when that state was redistricted to rig the results.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:13 PM
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30. i didn't blame texas for voting machine problems.....
....and florida or ohio don't have the mexican army encroaching on their territory.

anyways, how bad could it be for texans if mexico took texas back? you wouldn't be under the bush regime anymore. and, i'm willing to bet the mexicans would be quick to incarcerate scum like delay, cornyn and hutchison.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:29 PM
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12. where'd you hear this?
I thought they were here for humanitarian work along Gulf Coast
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:31 PM
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14. Hell No - NOT New Orleans - This Is in the SW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have army patrols operating in the US, fully armed, in personnel carriers - these are armed fucking patrols within our border by a foreign Army.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:02 PM
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25. Take a deep breath.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:03 PM
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27. Holy fuck!!! They're going to invade!!!!!!!!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:30 PM
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13. Whoa, that's a new thing
Plenty of folks had fits re: Katrina cleanup so I can only imagine how well this is going over....
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:22 PM
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7. Wasn't there a story not too long ago about tanks?
Or some other heavy military equipment that they were bringing across the border? Seem to recall something about it. ...
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yellowdogmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:37 PM
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17. Justification for their border fence?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:40 PM
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19. hummmm - wiretapping equipment too!
The State Department mainly doles out economic and humanitarian aid. But it also gives money and equipment to law enforcement agencies through its Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement. In 2000, it spent a modest $4.07 million on military and police aid to Mexico, mainly on binoculars, computers and other equipment for Mexican anti-drug agents. Not a single dollar was earmarked for border security.

Two years later, the budget shot up to $37 million, including $25.5 million for border security following the Sept. 11 attacks by al-Qaida. The aid included probes used for searching packages and looking behind ships' bulkheads, as well as "ion scanners" for sniffing out drugs or explosives.

Since then, the equipment sent to Mexico has gotten bigger and more expensive.

Recent donations include:


• Ten X-ray machines used by Mexican customs.


• Four Schweizer 333 helicopters, the first of a fleet of 28 that will be given to the Mexican Justice Department.


• Twelve UH-1H "Huey" helicopters, the first of 29 that the government is refurbishing and giving to Mexico.


• $13 million in computers, printers, communications lines and refurbishing of offices for Mexico's Federal Investigative Agency.


• Ten motorcycles and five trailers for Mexico's National Migration Institute and 12 Ford Lobo pickups.

This month, the U.S. Border Patrol taught water rescue techniques and gave equipment to authorities working on Mexico's border with Guatemala, the first time such training has taken place in Mexico.

Next year, the United States plans to give Mexico eight more helicopters and as many as six more X-ray scanners, three of which will go to Mexico's southern border with Guatemala.


The United States also plans to help Mexico with "installation of a telephone intercept capability," according to a State Department report. A department spokesman said that plans for phone-tapping equipment had been delivered but that the equipment had not been donated yet.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:osePln1n9J8J:www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1229mexicoaid.html+Mexican+Military+equipment&hl=en

This is interesting
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:42 PM
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22. Here is the one that set off the excitement it seems.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:41 PM
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21. And it is illegal as illegal gets.
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 06:42 PM by shance
I realize there are those at DU does not like Prison planet, however they were on top of this and covered this issue during Katrina.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:59 PM
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24. Knowing Lou, he probably said Dean open the border and let them in
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:06 PM
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28. This kind of stuff didn't happen when Bush was gallantly
protecting our borders in the National Guard during the Vietnam War..
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:09 PM
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29. Probably why Bush left the Texas National Guard, thought it was an attack.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:20 PM
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31. Yeah, I saw him say that earlier in the week.

It's mind boggling that there hasn't been a big row about this. But I guess the Lou must be defying a lamestream media blackout on it.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:31 PM
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32. I think we need Congress to tell us exactly what is going on at the border
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 07:31 PM by higher class
with vigilantes, free roaming bigots, and the Mexican Army. Did they approve this stuff? I think we have to pursue this? This regime is out of control. And who is killing the women along the borders?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:50 PM
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33. I heard this yesterday
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 07:52 PM by Rainscents
A republican guy called in from AZ and he was ANGRY!!! He said, he can no longer support GOP!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:23 PM
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34. Can they do that?
:shrug:
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