WI_DEM
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:00 PM
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The reason Lieberman is getting so many GOP endorsements is obvious |
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Rove, Bloomberg, GOP senate candidates in Washington and Minnesota (among others) are coming out for Lieberman. Why? They are betting that Joe will win in November as an Independent and they expect that they will lose some seats in the Senate perhaps enough where control of the chamber comes down to who wins in CT. They know that most democrats are endorsing Lamont, so if they come out for Holy Joe they will say, "look we were with you--will you be with us now?" and as an "Independent" they are hoping that Joe will then caucus with them rather than the Democrats.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:01 PM
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1. I'll go one further and say that he already does on most of the |
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important issues. he's a mole.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:03 PM
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2. I'm talking about deciding which party controls the chamber |
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caucusing with the Republicans--now, despite his votes, he caucuses and votes for Reid for Leader.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:04 PM
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3. No, I think they're simply trying to split the party. |
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Yours in and intriguing idea, but I think it is much simpler. They simply want to split our votes, and hope it equates to a win for either Salinger or the other Repubican running, Joe Lieberman. They can't lose this way. They'll get a sympathetic seat either way.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:08 PM
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If Lieberman wins (and the GOP candidate has no chance) they want him to vote with them to organize the next session of congress.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:04 PM
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4. If they're expecting loyalty from Joe, they should maybe think twice. |
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Although perhaps they'll find him truer than CT Dems have.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:10 PM
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9. I think they would be more loyal to them than he has been with |
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the Democrats. If he wins the election he has to caucus and vote with one party or the other to decide who will be leader--they are hoping that if they endorse him in his indy bid that he will come out for them in the next congress.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:06 PM
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5. It doesn't matter why! The fact that they're doing it isn't going to help |
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Joe at all!!!! If anything it's going to hurt him. Ct. is a very blue state, and GOP endorsements will only reinforce the statement that he's more Pub than anything!
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:11 PM
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11. While it is a "blue state" the biggest number of voters are independents |
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and if Joe can hold on to a core of the democrats, win a majority of republicans (and the GOP candidate is very weak) and then split the Independents he can win. Let's not fool ourselves that this is going to be a walk for Lamont. It isn't.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:08 PM
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6. I think it's more of a message to CT Republicans that they should vote for |
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Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 04:09 PM by Marr
Leiberman and not the official Republican candidate. Lieberman's already essentially a Republican, so it's not like they need to woo him over to their side for his Senate vote. They've already got it. But if they want to keep having it after November, they need Joe to beat the Democratic Party.
I see what you're saying about the caucus and all- maybe that's part of it.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:08 PM
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7. Exactly, the GOP needs Lieberman to bolster the Iraq war justifications |
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especially with the civil war going on being much more heightened by november, this is a yough one for the GOP to beat, they fucked up going into Iraq with no exit stratgy, but then they never did expect to exit because of the oil, the 14 bases and the New US. embassy the size of Disney world!
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:10 PM
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10. no, it's for the same reason they give Green Party candidates |
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money. They want to make the Democrats look divided. Or at least more divided than they are.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:13 PM
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13. but they know that it's either going to be Lamont or Lieberman in Nov |
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because there own candidate is so weak. And there betting on Lieberman so that he will vote to support a Republican majority in the senate in 2007 if it's close enough.
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Thu Aug-10-06 05:06 PM
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16. I really don't think so - I doubt very much that Lieberman |
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would caucus with the Republicans. I just don't see it.
They want Lieberman to run so they can use him as their poster boy in the strategy they're preparing. They don't really care who wins.
We're already seeing this strategy - they're trying to use Lamont and the anti - war message to paint Dems nationally as weak on defense. Read what Mehlman and Cheney have been saying. It's the same old - "the left wing cut and runners are taking over the Democrats" nonsense. They have used this in every election in my lifetime and this November is no different.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:12 PM
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12. Ken Mehlman, whom I thought until recently was a Fundie, is Jewish, and |
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Zionist. I find this fact to be fascinating.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:15 PM
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14. GOPers know their candidate is dead in the water |
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Guy on Tweety last night was saying he'd peaked at 9% in the polls. They know he's dead in the water, and I think the OP is right about them hoping Joe (a) wins, and (b) jumps ship.
I just wish he'd go jump in the proverbial lake.
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Thu Aug-10-06 04:21 PM
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15. Joe's already with them and he's desperate |
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He is so mixed up mentally; it's hard to say what he's thinking; and he's a republican puppett now! Goodbye Joe, good riddance. I almost didn't vote for Al Gore because you were his running mate.
I've never liked you because you tend to forget how you got where you are, you're nothing but a turncoat, and you call yourself a Democrat? I beg to differ with that. :puke: :spank:
Wish I could have voted in Vermont, I'd love to have voted for Lamont.
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