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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:13 PM
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Why should I believe the Blair British Government?
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:14 PM by Philosoraptor
Does Great Britain have some edge over our own government in the believability department?

Do we automatically believe everything that they tell us as well as everything our own government tells us?

Do some here actually trust Britain OVER the U.S.?

Personally, I think blair is a tool of the neo con war machine, unless no one noticed, or forgot recent history.

Fuck the blair British government, THEY ARE IN ON THIS WARPIG plan from the get go.

Who is at war with who? The U.S. and Great Britain are the ones who started and maintain this war against the Islamic world, so fuck them both, I won't believe EITHER one of them.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:15 PM
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1. I know Kos wrote a post praising them vs. the US but...
Remember that Brazilian whose brains they shot out on the subway a year ago? The senior officer in charge of that is now up for promotion now that no charges are being laid ,because she handled being under fire well. And "well" means she kept her head down and her mouth shut and the commissioner and the government appreciate this.

Or the 250 officer raid on two Moslem men resulting in what was ruled an "accidental discharge caused by physical contact" which shot one of them - who's still being held because they claim they found kiddie porn on his computers.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:15 PM
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2. No reason you should based on their character
but based on your safety. We have no choice. I believe there was a plot. I don't believe it won't be used for dishonest purposes.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:18 PM
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3. How about the timing of the bust? Known about it for months, and
then why this day? Did two 911 books came out today? One by one of the dudes on the 911 commission, who's basically saying they didn't get all the answers? (ex gov of NJ)

Things that make you go hmmmm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:24 PM
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4. Mocking the timing is fair game with me.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:31 PM
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5. Blair claimed Saddam could attack us within 45 minutes with WMDs
I hope that answers your question?

Don
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:20 PM
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6. So what information do you believe?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:22 PM
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7. ...but, but, you're supposed to believe Bush's poodle.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:37 PM
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8. You'd have to be really weird
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 06:38 PM by edwardlindy
to believe anything that Tiny Blur says. If you turn the sound down on TV when he's on he's saying "read my lips - I'm lying"
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:09 PM
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9. Who is at war with whom?
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 07:23 PM by Spider Jerusalem
Whe US and Britain against quite a few 'terrorists'; and regardless of who started the war, there are now very many angry, radicalised fundamentalist Muslims who have cause to hate the governments and by extension the people of both the UK and the US. It requires no great leap of logic to conclude that it is HIGHLY plausible that some subset of this group would in fact plan terror attacks of some sort, targeting either the UK or the US. One would, in fact, have to be a fool to think that this WOULD not happen, at some point.

Whether or not Blair is Bush's bum-boy is totally irrelevant to these facts (and I remind you again that Britain has experienced terrorist bombings carried out by disafeccted and radicalised young Muslims, only thirteen months ago...it isn't as though this sort of thing doesn't happen; it's called 'blowback'). Not to mention that the idea that the idea that not only the British government (which is currently deeply split over foreign policy issues, anyway; one fairly senior member of the government has RESIGNED IN PROTEST over the Lebanon crisis) but also the police services (which are largely free of political control, being under the jurisdiction of senior civil servants) are conspiring with the United States to manufacture a trumped-up, nonexistent 'terror threat' merely to divert the attention of Americans from domestic US political matters and prop up Bush's waning poll numbers betrays not only the worst kind of wild-eyed paranoia, but also a very deep ignorance of UK politics (which are very pertinent here) and the actual influence wielded by the United States.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:44 PM
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10. .............
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