Fraud Vitiates Everything It Touches: Why Diebold DREs May Have Invalid #s

[helderheid]

Fraud Vitiates Everything It Touches: Why Diebold DREs May Have Invalid NASED Numbers

A three year investigation determined that Diebold committed fraud
against Wyle Labs in order to obtain valuable qualification numbers
from the National Association of State Election Directors (NASED)
Voting Systems Board (VSB).

If in fact Diebold has committed fraud it is not a small legal matter.
Such fraud would prevent the certification in Utah of any Diebold
system which contains either a TS R6 or TSx DRE touch screen because
there is now no valid NASED qualification number for these systems....
The only question before the State of Utah (and 37 other states) is
whether elections will be held on uncertified systems because it is
inconvenient to obey the law or whether this state and others will
abide by its own statutes and regulations despite any inconvenience.
This article includes case law references.

http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1648&Itemid=51


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chief says she ran out of time because of touch-screen voting.

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[EFerrari]

1. Kick

[helderheid]

2. hey darlin!

:hi:

[EFerrari]

3. Is there ANYTHING these guys did that WAS legal?

lol

:hi:

[helderheid]

4. We live in very interesting times!

[bleever]

16. Too damn interesting.

K&R.

[EFerrari]

18. Just when you think you've seen every dirty trick these guys can pull

there's ANOTHER ONE.

Man!

[Swamp Rat]

5. k&r

:)

[EFerrari]

6. Do we know if the plaintiffs in the CA case have this information?

So much fraud, so little time.

:kick:

[cal04]

7. thank you helderheid

for this. This is the MOST important issue
K&R

:kick: :kick:

[EFerrari]

8. kick for every transparency even though

there's some things we probably don't really want to see. :silly:

[earthboundmisfit]

9. Here's 10

And thanks for this.

[EFerrari]

11. Thanks, earthboundmisfit!

:kick:

[Reckon]

10. Yikes.. thats 13.. quick someone, recommend.. haha.. nt

[EFerrari]

14. That would be 1 vote for every how many voters these creeps

have ripped off? :)

/oops

[Reckon]

21. That's only when they're not feeling greedy..

which is NEVER!. :)

[EFerrari]

22. Exactly! That's the math!

:)

[Kurovski]

12. K&R(nt)

[IChing]

13. Damn you are good

I hope you can find time to post at DU later
when your work takes over Ms.Campaign Manager

Important post.

[LaPera]

15. I can now hack a Diebold voting machine and you can too, it's very easy...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/how-to-hack-a-diebold-vot_b_26301.html

[EFerrari]

17. Great link! Thank you, LaPera

[NVMojo]

19. good grief, the fraud never quits giving!!

[EFerrari]

20. It's jaw-dropping. And *this* is what our supine media

refuses to report.

*They* look less innocent all the time.

[AntiFascist]

35. K & R, Dobbs should be able to report on this n/t

[Kurovski]

23. I think this is the first DU post title with the word "Vitiates" in it.

It sounds just like the spreading of the hateful disease that those malignant clowns are infecting us with.

[EFerrari]

24. Back up there so DUers can see just what is being forced on us

as American voters.

:mad:

[Kurovski]

25. Kick(nt)

[chill_wind]

26. Happy to oblige. Kick it up. nt

[helderheid]

27. mornin'

[BeFree]

28. Mourning the loss of fair elections

From the end of Washburn's article:

If in fact Diebold has committed fraud it is not a small legal matter. Such fraud would prevent the certification in Wisconsin of any Diebold system which contains either a TS R6 or TSx DRE touch screen because there is now no valid NASED qualification number for these systems.

Diebold must submit the source code for all 4 (or more) versions of Win CE used in its touch screen DRE systems and obtain a valid qualification number from the Election Assistance Commission.

I realize this revelation comes at an inconvenient time. The September primaries for Wisconsin are only 5 weeks away with the general election in November in 13 weeks. It is not the fault of this or other investigators that Diebold may have committed fraud for more than 4 years. It is not my fault Wylie Labs and Ciber Labs are gullibly ignorant of operating systems from Microsoft or of the National Software Reference Library used to verify COTS software versions.

The only question before the State of Wisconsin (and 37 other states) is whether elections will be held on uncertified systems because it is inconvenient to obey the law or whether this state and others will abide by its own statutes and regulations despite any inconvenience.

==============================
I bet Wisconsin uses the uncertified, fraudulently produced machines. Who would bet against that?

What would they do otherwise? Hand Count Paper Ballots?

[helderheid]

29. time for lawsuits.

[BeFree]

32. RFK

Is the answer to the question of who has, indeed, filed a lawsuit.

Another, in North Carolina, ended up with Diebold running away from NC with their tail between their legs.

Any others?

[ArbustoBuster]

30. Is there some penalty for breaking this law?

Can those who ignore this law against using uncertified machines be sent to prison for years, or is it one of the laws which apparently have no penalty, like the laws against domestic espionage or starting illegal wars?

If this law has no teeth, it will be broken. I guarantee it. But if it carries a stiff penalty, we can send a few politicos to jail for a few years and teach them not to do this again.

(I think I'm becoming a broken record on the "imprison the bastards so they don't do it again" theme. But I consider it our top priority.)

[DoYouEverWonder]

39. Hopefully

Burn in hell for eternity would be appropriate?

[helderheid]

40. hasn't been so far!

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. Kick and thank you!

[Kurovski]

33. Kick!(nt)

:kick:

[tiptoe]

34. kick!

[Kurovski]

36. Kick.(nt)

[DoYouEverWonder]

37. Why am I not surprised?

k&r

[EFerrari]

38. "Just good old boys"

:nuke:

[Lisa0825]

41. In my past careeer in prostate cancer research,

DRE meant "digital rectal exam."


Considering how many times Diebold has screwed us over, I guess it makes sense to have an acronym that means they have their fingers up our asses.

[Kurovski]

42. I did not know that.

The acronoym is fitting.

[EFerrari]

44. I don't believe in coincidences.

lol

:)

[Kurovski]

43. Kick

:kick:

[TexasLawyer]

45. kick

[rumpel]

46. The prudent thing for the 38 States to do is

go back to paper. Charge the extra cost to Diebold as penalty for breach of contract/fraud. It's the people's money.

plus subpeona Iredale et al - get immediate refund for all the machines - file suit

Talbot Iredale, V.P. for Research and Development for Diebold specifically instructed subordinates to not turn over the WinCE source code to Wyle Lab for the required source code reviews and further he instructed his subordinates: “We do not want to get Wyle reviewing and certifying the operating systems. Therefore can we keep to a minimum the references to the WnCE 3.0 operating system?”

hmmm

Why was this order given, Mr. Iredale? It does not appear to be mere competition / revenue issues.

Thanks for the news, helderheid :hi:

[Kurovski]

47. Kick.(nt)