Is the real Bush goal to break our military?

[NoBushSpokenHere]

Often throughout the past years I have asked this question. How many wars can we fight simultaneously? Has he set up the grounds for a catastrophic defeat? Has he encouraged the torture in order to expedite attacks on our own soil? Who would benefit from our military powers being broken? Who does he really report to?

No, I am not a believer of the latest news regarding the supposed plot. However, I have maintained since we invaded Afghanistan that we will see war on our own soil. Lately I am predicting that will we not only see blood on our mountains, but our lives will soon be similar to those in Palestine. Fearing the next bomb, not knowing which one of our loved ones will be killed by a car bomb or home blown apart.

How many of you would stand idle after seeing your family members or fellow Americans tortured in the fashion that we have tortured? How many of you would want revenge when your country has been blown up beyond repair?

We already know he has broken our banks, crippled our chances of surviving monetarily, left our country with very few jobs and a very bleak outlook without even shedding a tear. We know our health care system is in shambles, with many of us unable to afford medical care and many of our doctors filing bankruptcy because not many can afford their care.

I also ask for the real numbers of our kids who have died in these senseless wars? How bad is it, really? Just like New Orleans after Katrina, how many really died?

Does he have some elaborate underground city he plans to escape to when all he world begins to REALLY attack us? Who is really paying him? I have ALWAYS believed it to be for oil, but what good does it do for oil company owners to be making trillions of dollars if the entire earth is scorched with war? There has to be more to the motive... Why is he baiting countries to attack our own soil?

[graywarrior]

1. The Rapture

[NoBushSpokenHere]

3. Well

I have trouble with thinking it is the rapture...

Sometimes when we look at problems we need to step back away from them and take another look.

So, come on out to mars with me for a second...take a look at the bigger picture of our earth, remembering where we were in October of 2000 to now. See that crazy man running our country? Yes the one sitting with Cheney and the other Halliburton execs. Sitting on such a stash of money you can barely see DC, right? It is growing larger as we look, doubling and tripling in size. Alot of Washington politicians sitting with them as they laugh and send more kids to fight more wars. They hear the echo of threats from other countries, do they listen? If they control the oil worldwide and make trillions from rebuilding after wars, while bankrupting country after country, who is going to buy the oil?

So what good does it do to own it all if no one can afford to buy it?

[texpatriot2004]

2. Wouldn't doubt it. nt

[I_Make_Mistakes]

5. No. The neo-cons truly did believe this was gonna be a cake

walk for more cheap oil. They can not ever admit a mistake, look at Katrina. They riled the RW audience with the Dem's weakness on nat'l defense, we could've won Viet Nam if we only stayed, etc..

They are stuck in their own quagmire, if they leave Iraq without a victory they will lose those who have been conditioned to their framed issues, i.e.; they will appear weak.

On C-Span the RW'ers were calling in with suggestions how they could get out of Iraq and SAVE FACE, their words, i.e; not look like cut and runners or losers.

They made their bed and the bed bugs are biting them everywhere. They honestly cannot fathom the idea that they royally fu'ed so, they live in denial waiting for some kind of miracle to change the reality based world into the reality they were trying to create.

My father has the same psychological problem, he creates a world that does exist (except in his own mind) and is enraged that the world doesn't fit into it, because he truly believes his own lies and delusions. It really is a sad condition, because he can never truly be happy, but he refuses to admit he has a problem.

They don't want to brake the military, they don't even know they are stressing them, with all the yes men the surrounded themselves with.

[driver8]

7. Innocent people continue to die because these assholes cannot

admit that they were wrong.

Who supports the troops again??

[Reckon]

4. He's broke everything else, I don't see why he would stop now.. n/t

[earth mom]

6. Great Post! Can you say King George or George the Dictator?

Because that's what I see as the ultimate goal of * & his cronies. :scared:

[NoBushSpokenHere]

9. Thanks and no, I cannot say King George

I can barely type it. My normal name for him is @#@#$%^&!!!

[earth mom]

11. ROFL....that's my name for him too!

:rofl:

[leftofthedial]

8. the one and only goal of the bush crime gang is to enrich themselves

and their patrons.

If the fastest way to do this involves the destruction of our country, our economy and our military, BFD.

[mwb970]

10. Bush certainly *acts* as if he wants to destroy us.

I mean, if he *did* hate America for some reason, what would he do? Bankrupt our Treasury? Poison our air and water? Invade foreign countries for no reason? Generate white-hot hatred for America throughout the world? Abandon diplomacy? Undermine our Constitution? Have criminals and nutjobs for advisers? Hire incompetent cronies for important government jobs? Divide the citizens from each other? Lie?

I really don't see what more this little man could do to bring down our once-great nation than he is already doing. I can't imagine what is going through whatever he has where the rest of us have a mind.

[checks-n-balances]

12. I've often wondered about the same thing...

as well as some of the other questions you're asking. In the long run, how do he and his cronies think they're REALLY going to profit from all of this???

[tjwash]

13. GOAL??

:rofl:
This mother fuckers been a failure his entire life at everything he has done. You think he actually had a GOAL?

If his goal was to break the military, they would probably end up strongest that they have ever been...

[JohMunich99]

14. Whoa man

You give Bush WAY too much credit. Like the poster above, Bush has no goals. He goes through life living like a slug with no direction.


What war would happen in this country? Who would attack the United States? Diplomatic tensions might be a little tight between the U.S. and some European countries, but it's not like France is an enemy. Canada, the entire EU, Australia, and the majority of Asian countries would NEVER back another country in an American dispute unless we overplayed our hand. If people in this country are ready to revolt (voting wise) over a failed war in Iraq, you better believe there would be problems if Bush tried to attack another country.

I'm always up for a good counterpoint though especially if you have solid evidence to back something up.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

15. Counterpoint

No solid evidence, just common sense. It is commonly thought that Bush is out to invade every oil producing country. How many countries do you think will be invaded before they all turn on us? How many terrorists have been created by Abu Ghraib and Gitmo? Let alone the other atrocities we have read about i.e. torture by running power drills into skulls.

If you survived while your loved ones and fellow citizens were tortured in these horrific events, your country demolished beyond repair, your way of life completely destroyed, would you want revenge? People normally have a stopping mechinism aka conscience that prevents them from carrying out aggressions such as revengeful actions, but this mechanism is strongly related to the ability to have something to hold onto, something to live for. Stop and ask yourself if you were in Germany, Russia, or China and you witnessed what we have done in Afghanistan, Iraq and knew that same oppressor was coming to the country that supplies your oil, would you do anything to prevent it? Your first answer may be to negotiate, but so far I haven't seen negotiation coming out of Washington under this administration. So that option is out. What is the next option? Do you really think that other countries are going to be satisfied with the Bush regime taking over all the oil fields? How would they stop it other than to attack? And getting back to my original post, I suspect our military is suffering more than we can imagine. We are very vulnerable and if we invade Iran, how much weaker are we going to be? If we were attacked here in the states, what defense do we really have? If $300 million is being spent daily on Iraq, I am doubtful much has been spent to secure our own soils.

And again, no I have no evidence, inside knowledge or anything to support the above. I am simply an American citizen that has the ability to use common sense.

[jazzjunkysue]

16. Isn't it obvious?