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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 08:59 AM
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So, why can the Repukes scare the people better than the Dems can?
It seems the "terra, terra, terra" thing is a working strategy. Why can't the Dems scare the populace even more with Global Warming or Catastrophic Climate Change? I mean, chances of being messed up by a terrorist are very small. Chances of being negatively impacted by climate change are much greater. It is already happening and has been for some time....just think of droughts, wildfires, and other things that can be blamed on climate change. I mean, it doesn't have to even be true. Why can't the Dems scare the crap out of the people with horror stories about the climate? They can pitch that the Repukes ain't gonna do nothing about it and we're all gonna die from sea level rise, starvation, glaciers, whatever. Why ain't we using this tactic? Change WILL happen.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:02 AM
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1. because the media lets them-helps them, feeds them. ect ect.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:05 AM
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3. You are correct! We see pictures of terrorist acts like the burning
Two Towers. There are many such pictures shown over and over. But, there are many times more pictures of what is happening to our environment that never make it to national t.v. The media is a major piece to the puzzle. I don't get what the Corps. think they will sell when most folks are dead from climate change, though. Not thinking ahead, I guess.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:04 AM
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2. also, death by a bomb or bullet or gas or whatever - while less likely
is a lot more immediate, thus scarier, than a lng term destruction of everything that keeps us alive.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:05 AM
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4. LIE, LIE, LIE
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:05 AM
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5. 1) Republican-leaning voters tend to see enemies . . .
where progressives see opportunities (remember, most Americans -- and almost all non-wealthy Republicans -- never travel abroad and many get their news exclusively from Fux).

2) Getting blown up/burned to death/having your plane fall out of the sky is much more immediate than the slow onset of climate change. And remember, the 'Licans have invested a vast amount of effort trying to poo-poo global warming for years. It's really only recently that they've begun to give up on trying to wish the problem away (GWB notwithstanding).
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:08 AM
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6. because they are scarier
:)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:09 AM
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7. Dems need to use their own scare tactics that are short term, too,
They need to make voters aware that if they vote Repbulican they're more liable to be attacked and killed by terrorists because of the failed Republican policies which have incited terrorists even more.

Support Republicans and you're more likely to die from a terrorist plot. Support Democrats and you're more likely to live to see your grandchildren.

How's that for starters?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:09 AM
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8. Because for the most part, Dems don't get into politics to spread Fear
and control.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:11 AM
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9. Bullies tend to be more scary, until they're exposed for what they are...
Think back to school-yard days when the one or two bullies on the playground tended to cast a pall over the entire area. They did this with the way they looked, talked, stood, etc. Then think what happened when a bully, who pushed too far, was beaten into submission by a "dork." They "lost face" and weren't intimidating anymore...

The GOP is currently "losing face" and are desperately trying to regain the playground...
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:17 AM
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10. Because People can see the danger terrorists impose on others.
Global warming and climate change aren't seen as dangers, to many its just myth, you know science can't be trusted. Dumb people are only accepting of things they can see the results of, Global warming to many is a good thing, winters are warmer and they aren't as cold. Besides it must be good because they save money on warming their homes during warm winters. Its hard to get people to see the danger when it takes decades to see results. Terrorists are instant danger, it doesn't take a bomb decades to get results. Sadly the people out there are still caught up in the me and don't think about what they leave for their children and grand children to live with.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:32 AM
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13. Here, again, the media is a big part of the problem. Also, the chances
of the Gulf Stream shut down are pretty good. That would mean glacial disruption of many peoples lives. All this can happen in a relatively short period of time. Not being talked about much, though. Water is going to be more and more important as so much of it changes location or is messed up. Even indolent, rich Repukes need to drink water. I guess they can keep buying it in the bottle.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:28 AM
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11. The Dems need to work on playing dirty.
Our problem is that instead of giving the Pukes a taste of thier own medicine we ignore it as "below" us. Another problem is, of course, the MSM and DLC; every time we try and play dirty the talking heads bash us and the DLCers bitch about the "loony, partisan Left." :eyes:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:28 AM
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12. because it's in their nature. That's how they raise their children too.
And that's how they control their wives too.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:41 AM
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14. Actually, I think the Dems are not so easily hoodwinked
We don't fall for that tactic.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:44 AM
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15. Dems don't want anybody to live in fear--remember Roosevelt?
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 09:46 AM by librechik
We have nothing to fear but fear itself.


The Pukkkes have nothing but fear. And they're not ashamed to use it.

Dems would be.
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Alacrat Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:57 AM
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16. We have been using this tactic
ie..Al's movie. The doomsday predictions of global warming have been around for years. IMO, people still don't buy into it 100%. There have been believable arguments against global warming, and from many of the publics personal experiences, they haven't seen a change. I recall the 1970s, when global cooling was the rage, I can also recall summers with 100+ degree weather for days, being the norm, this is the first year we've seen 100 in years and it has only been one day, also there were numerous hurricanes in the early 90s, then a decrease for a few years, and an up turn over the last 2 years. This year has been a bust, but it is early, with plenty of time for change.
Terra, has also been around for years, it really hit home in 2001, and the threat of another strike is always on the publics mind. Terrorist regularly strike abroad, but we have been lucky, and bush/blair make a good show when a "plot" is foiled, this only strengthens the publics belief that we are a target, and the government is doing a god job of stopping the terrorists, and reminding us the terrorist are always trying to get us.
The simple version is, people live for today, and not for the future, they are more concerned about attacks which could happen any day, than a few degrees of warming, which in most minds would only make for a longer summer, extra time to play golf, swim and fish. People find it hard to worry about things that they perceive will possibly affect us decades from now, and think there may be an easy fix for it by then. The only hope of bringing global warming back to the fore front of the publics mind would be a terrible second half of hurricane season, with mass destruction along the coast, but then again, some people find it hard to feel sorry for rich folks having their beach houses blown away, in fact many seem to find joy in it. What a weird world in which we live. JMO, AC
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:11 AM
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18. Much of what you say is true. People do perceive things this way, but
their perceptions are wrong.....dead wrong. Al Gore's movie is opptimistic in light of events. There were many predictions of what is happening now back in the seventies. I remember what nature was like in my area back then and things have changed a lot.

The media needs to show the "big picture" and keep mentioning how our hottest years are clustering around NOW. They need to show the studies that have found Arctic ice melt accelerating at many times the rate predicted only a few years ago. By the time we have twenty years of measurements behind us, from now, it will be far too late.

Environmental disasters need to be showcased, whether they are directly attributable to climate change or just poor human management. Things like salmon decline, cod decline, and overfishing in general. The subject of drinking water is pretty scary. There are many very important things that are being ruined right this minute. They aren't getting covered, though, because of the Corporate Media's agenda. The Dems need to stand up and give a loud environmental, "BOO!" and scare the crap out of the populace.

Unfortunately, many Dems are corporate shills, as well. This issue needs to determine who is in office, plain and simple. Is Ned Lamont an environmnetal advocate? Hmmmmmmmm?
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:06 AM
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17. scaring people
If Dems wanted to really scare republinazis, they should tell them to imagine living w/o health insurance in this country.


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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:15 AM
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19. That is so true. Why isn't this shouted about? Probably forty-five
million don't have insurance and have crappy health care, or none. Many millions more are under insured and have crappy health care, or none. This block of voters could put anybody in office. What we need is good, affordable health care without the "insurance" part, though. The I companies need to be cut out of the equation. Just like cancerous tumors, they are sucking up nutrients(money) and doing no real good. Why aren't the Dems demanding this? Where is there doable plan?

I don't know, but I'm afraid big pharma, the Insurance business, etc. has got them, too.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:17 AM
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20. Because they have ugly pusses, like Snarling Cheney.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:20 AM
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21. They try a lot harder, that's why.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 10:23 AM
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22. Hit.nail.on.head! n/t
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