I will stand with Hillary...

[mdmc]

...if she receives the democratic party nomination to run for reelection to the senate. Democratic party anti war Senate candidate Steve Greenfield is right on all issues, but most likely won't topple Senator Clinton. If she get the parties nomination, then I will stand with her! Who else is with me?

[LaurenG]

1. sorry, no not me. nt

[burythehatchet]

2. Not me, and you used the word"whom" improperly, I believe

[mdmc]

7. I think that your right

peace.

[longship]

37. I think you used "your" incorrectly... ;-)

You are ==> you're

just kiddin'. But since we're correcting grammar in this thread I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon. hehehe

[mdmc]

60. good eye

peace!

[billbuckhead]

10. Team Clinton is our only hope

They're stronger than the Demcoatic party.

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[mdmc]

8. I feel bad about it now

I didn't realize how touchy a topic she was... (I haven't been payin attention, apparently).

[OKNancy]

16. I don't think people read your post very carefully

You clearly stated the SENATE election, and that does not make you a conservative.
Don't feel bad.

[mdmc]

20. well, in 2008, I want a Democrat to be elected president!

Sure, I'd love Kucinich, but I'll take any Dem. Really, any Dem.

(I feel bad about posting about Hillary. Too touchy for DU)_.

[chicagiana]

58. Feingold ...

I like Kucinich too. But I don't think his time is quite here yet.

Russ Feingold has the stature to get the nomination and run successfully for President.

[H2O Man]

21. Clearly

the majority of people who have responded up to this point have not read the OP. That is perhaps the most important thing about the thread.

[mdmc]

31. it was intentionally misleading

and I now regret it.

[H2O Man]

32. As a NYS resident

I will support the "protest" candidate in the primary, and vote for Hillary in the election. The time and money I will be investing in candidates in 2006 will go exclusively to anti-war candidates.

[mdmc]

34. But I think that Hillary will have some coattails in

upstate NY.

If we can pick up some clout under her, I would support her from the get go. Steve Greenfield is a good guy...

[H2O Man]

36. The Clinton forces

are very well organized in the largely republican, rural counties around here. I'm friends with many of them. But I will not assist anyone who is supporting the Bush war in Iraq.

[billbuckhead]

19. Some of the anti-Clinton people are rightwing trolls or sexists

A lot of extremists on both side of the continuum are scared of the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years reappearing.

[mdmc]

22. bring back the Clinton years!

I'd love to see Al Gore get back in the mix.

[billbuckhead]

27. Were you better off now or 8 years ago with Clinton as president

This something the average person understands.

[B Calm]

26. Just as easy to say some of the pro-Hillary people are freepers

hoping will nominate a weak candidate!

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. I agree

This is getting pretty silly.

[mdmc]

17. sorry

peace

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. We are leaving ourselves wide open for attack from the right

on this.

I like the suggestion that we open up a different forum for these discussions. Maybe we can persuade DU to do that.

[mdmc]

33. Any discussion of 2008 personalities is moot

as we do not yet understand the issue landscape for the campaign.

My posting as Hillary thread was not such a good idea.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. You had good intentions

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Mind_your_head]

44. If the mods don't ban the topic, they should at least send all the

"Hillary in 2008" threads down to the 9/11 basement. Maybe some people who don't go down there might learn a thing or two.

:evilgrin:

(I don't post down there, btw, but it's often fascinating reading that's for sure)!

[OKNancy]

45. This isn't a Hillary in 08 thread..that's the problem

this is a Hillary for Senate in 2006 thread.

[Mind_your_head]

49. oops - my mistake. Thanks for the correction nt/t

[OKNancy]

4. I live in Oklahoma

so I have no say in your Senate election. Sometimes I give money to out-of-state candidates, but I think she is probably doing just fine in that department.

[flpoljunkie]

43. She is expected to raise $60 million for her Senate race, much more than

she will need for her Senate race--which is expected to cost around $20 million. That leaves quite a war chest for a presidential run--yet we continue to receive frequent requests by mail for yet more money for her Senate campaign.

[americanstranger]

5. Nope.

The only thing that would be worse than Mrs. Clinton running for president would be if she had Lieberman as her running mate.

-as

[mdmc]

24. I'd rather that ticket win

than Dean / Kucinich lose (but, yes, I's like to see Dean / Kucinich win!)

[brainshrub]

6. Nah. Better to vote for a real republican than a Dem who votes like one.

And yes, I mean that.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. I am

[giant_robot]

11. Ooops.

I thought you were talking about the presidential race. On edit: Absolutely. She's an outstanding senator, I voted for her in '02, and if I still lived in New York I'd vote for her in '06.

[B Calm]

12. I live in Indiana.. Unlike last time when I sent her a donation, I

will not be doing that this time. I sent her a donation last time with the only reason being to piss off republicans. I never dreamed she would piss me off, but she did!

[Pastiche423]

14. I can't stand Hillary...

[secretmouse]

15. I'm on the fence.......

I respect and admire Hillary Clinton enormously, but she is such a polarizing person, I don't think she could beat the Republican opponent(whomever that may be-and if it's McCain..well, she's be humiliated!)

I think we Dems have a real challenge ahead of us; we have to be realists.I freaked when Kerry (once again, fine man) was nominated..he never stood a chance against Bush.I think Wesley Clark could have, if he'd entered the race sooner, and he might be just the man for the job in 2008.

Bottom line, we have to nominate a candidate with our heads, not our hearts and we have to VOTE, dammit!


edited to add: My apologies...I didn't read the post correctly...I was talking about the 2008 presidential election.

[walldude]

18. Nope, sorry. 2004 was the last year I voted for someone I

don't trust. If she gets the nomination I will vote indepandant or green or whoever I think is best. Flame all you want. Im' done voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

[mdmc]

38. that okay

this is America.

peace...

[brainshrub]

54. Ding ding ding. Perfect answer. (eom)

[existentialist]

23. A heavily qualified, yes

If Hillary gets nominated for the U.S Senate, as I think likely, I will lend my nominal support because I do believe she would be far preferable to any Republican running against her, that said,

(1) I'm not from or in New York, and therefore can't vote for her.

(2) As far as monetary support, forget it because,
1 I'm not rich, and,
2 There are many far more crucial and closer races where wining might
be both harder but still possible and more likely to make a difference,
and,
3 I could feel better about donating to someone whom I could support in
my heart rather than as the lesser of two evils,

(3) As far as supporting her for President in '08,
1 I don't think I could support her in the primary,
2 God help us if we have to support her in the general election, and
3 It does not seem likely that we'll have to make that choice.

[mdmc]

29. thanks for the post

Hillary will help GOTV in upstate NY. I think she will help the Dems. If she can help unseat REP. Sue Kelly (NY19), than she is worth my support.

peace.

[Hardrada]

30. Forewarned is good.

We will stop her in the Iowa caucuses since by that time a real Democrat (liberal) will certainly have emerged.

[roguevalley]

28. ask me the day before the election. this is more painful than I have

time to discuss. I am sick of the Bush-Clinton hegemony on the presidency.

[AntiCoup2K4]

35. I will stand against Hillary

...and against any other warmongering corporatist the DLC tries to ram down our throats. Who else is with me?

[mdmc]

40. the GOP, for one thing

but I bet that you are against them too.

Having a DLC warmonger front our 2008 ticket would suck, but losing to a neocon would suck more. Maybe not, who knows?

[Pastiche423]

41. I am!

[Crunchy Frog]

39. I'm not in a position to vote for her for Senator

and there are other people running who need my money far more than she does. I don't think she needs to be actively campaigned for by me, she seems to be pretty popular in NY and it doesn't look like a Repug challenger has a shot against her. I think I will sit that one out.

[Tom Joad]

42. I will stand against this immoral, illegal, insane war. who is with me?

[MODemocrat]

46. I'll be right there with you mdmc standing with Hillary

I strongly support Hillary, and will work as hard as possible for her. My husband just said
"count me in too, I love Hillary." :thumbsup:

[onehandle]

48. I don't attack Democrats.

And I don't live in New York, so that's up to New Yorkers anyway.

Greenfield is a Green Party opportunist.

[mdmc]

61. I am interested in any green that flips to dem

Steve ran against Hinchey, which is his right to do. It didn't win him any friends in the anti war movement.

[in_cog_ni_to]

50. No way. I'm finished with the DLC Democrats.

If we're smart, we'll nominate a REAL DEMOCRAT this time.

[oregonindy]

51. I'll go with . Democratic party anti war Senate candidate Steve Greenfield

rather than another pro war demopublican corporate robot.

[applegrove]

52. We have to stand with whomever is nominated. Otherwise - we pull

a Nader and get 8 more years of neocon social revolution.

[AtomicKitten]

53. you are correct

[applegrove]

55. And 8 More years of neocons means more wars.

[AtomicKitten]

57. again, you are correct n/t

[chicagiana]

56. Bleck!!!!

If Hillary cheates to get it, I will vote Green.

Hillary has been whoring herself out to the righties lately. I'm not pleased with her at all.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

59. In Order To Abide By The RULES of DU We All Have To Be With You!

:)