I'm still waiting for a Democrat to call Bush out on the terror bullshit

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A lot of people here have called him out on it. Though a lot of people here also still choose to live in la-la land and not recognize the terror alert and media circus over it for what it is - A blatant cry of wolf for the 1000000000th time.

But what about an actual elected DEMOCRAT? Why must the Democrats continue to be such pussies? This is not how you win, folks. CALL THE GOP OUT.

I want to see all the Democrats get on Faux News, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and ABC and shout the message loud and clear: Bush is once again using a terrorist threat to manipulate and scare the public for political gain before an election. Hey, Howard Dean: Type up a fucking memo. The GOP have no problem passing around memos. Get cracking. Enough of this shit. The Democrats have to start getting tough or they're never going to win.

And it can't just be one of them. It has to be all of them. No more infighting bullshit. Stand united against the REPUBLICANS, not each other. Call them out and call them out NOW. Do it before the opportunity fizzles out.

[spanone]

1. I'm waiting for someone to point out that al-Qaeda still exists because of

the bush* policies.

[rodeodance]

6. Here--Reid and Kennedy did yesterday.

Thu Aug-10-06 04:44 PM
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US Democrats say plot shows Iraq war a diversion

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10138972.htm

US Democrats say plot shows Iraq war a diversion

WASHINGTON, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Prominent Democrats said on Thursday a foiled plot in Britain to blow up U.S.-bound planes showed the Bush administration's pursuit of war in Iraq had diverted resources from the bigger threat of terrorism and made the danger worse.

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"Five years after 9-11, it is clear that our misguided policies are making America more hated in the world and making the war on terrorism harder to win," Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts said.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada said Bush and Congress needed to change course in Iraq and ensure Americans are protected around the world.

"The Iraq war has diverted our focus and more than $300 billion in resources from the war on terrorism and has created a rallying cry for international terrorists," Reid said.

[rodeodance]

2. Hil Conton dissed Cheney on his crack-and his office reponded:

Fri Aug-11-06 09:56 AM
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http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/63162

Clinton Denounces Cheney for Terrorism Comments

NEW YORK, NY August 11, 2006 —Senator Hillary Clinton has denounced Vice President Dick Cheney for saying terrorists would be emboldened by the results of Connecticut's Democratic Primary.

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CLINTON: I don't take anything he says seriously anymore. I think that he has been a very counterproductive even destructive force in our country and I am very disheartened by the failure of leadership from the president and vice president.
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A spokeswoman for the vice president said his comments on the importance of a strong national security strategy "speak for themselves."

[maddezmom]

3. you must have missed this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2449283

US Democrats say plot shows Iraq war a diversion

WASHINGTON, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Prominent Democrats said on Thursday a foiled plot in Britain to blow up U.S.-bound planes showed the Bush administration's pursuit of war in Iraq had diverted resources from the bigger threat of terrorism and made the danger worse.

...

"Five years after 9-11, it is clear that our misguided policies are making America more hated in the world and making the war on terrorism harder to win," Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts said.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada said Bush and Congress needed to change course in Iraq and ensure Americans are protected around the world.

"The Iraq war has diverted our focus and more than $300 billion in resources from the war on terrorism and has created a rallying cry for international terrorists," Reid said.

[Rose Siding]

9. And this-

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued the following statement on today's terror threats and Democrats commitment to keeping America safe:

"Today's events are a troubling reminder that we are living in dangerous and trying times. These are times that call for real leadership. Not posturing, or name calling.

"As Americans we must be unwavering in our commitment to fighting and winning the war on terror. We need a new direction in our national defense policies that's tough and smart. That means tracking down terrorists and providing our troops and agencies with the tools they need to stop future attacks, implementing the 9/11 Commission recommendations to close the gaps in our security, securing our ports and borders, chemical and nuclear power plants and properly equipping our first responders and our national guard.

"It also means we have to be honest about the failures of our current foreign policies, which have let Iraq slip into civil war, enabled Iran to increase its nuclear capabilities, failed to address the growing threat posed by North Korea, and Afghanistan has seen a resurgence of the Taliban. Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda's mastermind, is still on the loose, and the Middle East is deep in crisis.

"We must put America's security ahead of politicking and come together as Americans. I urge President Bush, the Commander in Chief, to return to Washington to address the problems we face today."

http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/08/dean_americas_s_1.php

And this-

from the House Democratic Caucus Chairman, James Clyburn:

“I commend British authorities for their excellent work in intercepting a plot to take down U.S. and British airplanes en route from the U.K. to America. Today’s events make evident that al Qaeda still poses a grave threat to our airways and our way of life, and we must devote adequate attention and resources to fighting the war on terrorism.

“A similar plot, hatched by Ramsey Usef, to take down airplanes over the Pacific Ocean with liquid explosives was thwarted ten years ago. Our aviation system was attacked by al Qaeda five years ago on September 11. The 9/11 Commission recommended improving security screening to detect explosives at the checkpoint four years ago. And knowing of al Qadea’s affinity for repeating patterns like this, we have had ample reason to screen for these threats. It’s time for a new direction in homeland security which includes next generation technologies at our airport screening checkpoints that detect liquid explosives and plastic explosives.

“It’s also time to assess how much progress we’ve made in the war on terrorism. With resources diverted to an ongoing civil war in Iraq, Osama bin Laden still at large, a nuclear arms race in Iran and North Korea, the Taliban regaining strength in Afghanistan and escalating violence in the Middle East, are we safer than we were five years ago?”

http://www.housedemocrats.gov/news/librarydetail.cfm?library_content_id=847

[maddezmom]

11. and more: Leahy

8/10/2006 4:16:00 PM

Statement of Senator Patrick Leahy on the Foiling of the British Airline Terror Plot

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=70590

Contact: David Carle of the Office of Sen. Patrick Leahy, 202-224-3693

MONTPELIER, Vt., Aug. 10 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a statement from Sen. Patrick Leahy on the British airline terror plot:

"All of us as Americans are grateful to British authorities for disrupting a plot that endangered the citizens of both our countries. I also commend the FBI professionals and others for their close and expert cooperation in this investigation.

"This episode and the upcoming five-year anniversary of the attacks of 9/11 are reminders that there is little margin for error in countering terrorism. We need to refocus our attention and resources to eliminate the misdirection and mismanagement that too often divert us from the goal of protecting the American people.

"Imagine how different our situation would be today if we had not shifted our elite forces from Afghanistan to Iraq at the critical moment when we were close to finding Osama bin Laden. In the years since then the Iraq war has stretched our military to the breaking point, sapped hundreds of billions of dollars, and preoccupied our attention. The White House has even disbanded the intelligence unit that for years was dedicated to tracking down Osama bin Laden. The diversion to Iraq has only succeeded in creating a new breeding ground for terrorists and in emboldening the rogue states that harbor and supply them. Starting an unnecessary war in Iraq has not made us more secure, but less secure.

"We are at our best when we meet the threat of terrorism not with fear but with facts and determination. Let us set a new direction to counter terrorism on our own terms, with American skill and with American values."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1877782

[jobycom]

4. Karl put you up to this, didn't he?

:rofl: Seriously, even if most Democrats believed all that, it would be political suicide to say it without any evidence. I'm frankly stunned at how many people even here will say that without any evidence. There's enough evidence to make it seem plausible, and until holes are found in that evidence, no Democrat (and no one who wants to be taken seriously), should say anything of the sort. Republicans are the ones who shoot off their mouths (and shotguns) without looking. Democrats prefer to know the facts first.

[Ezlivin]

5. As soon as someone "calls Bush out" we will have another attack

When the PNAC needed a "New Pearl Harbor" they got 9/11.

As a bonus the Democrats got the anthrax attack. (Hear about that WMD attack on our soil anymore? Bueller? Anyone?)

The moment the Democrats try to call bullshit on this terror scam the alert level will go to red and we'll sure as shit have another attack.

After all, we've captured NONE of the planners of 9/11 or the anthrax attacks. They're still in office....

[elehhhhna]

7. tick tick tick

[WildEyedLiberal]

8. Kerry has:

Washington, DC – Senator John Kerry released the following statement on the thwarted terror plot:

"We are all incredibly grateful and fortunate that British authorities were able to prevent these attacks before more innocent people could be killed by these ruthless murderers.

"This is a stark reminder that the war on terrorism is global, and extends far beyond Iraq to our very shores. Terrorism is the biggest threat to Americans' security, and this event exposes the misleading myth that we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here. In fact, the war in Iraq has become a dangerous distraction, and a profound drain on our financial and military resources.

"Nearly five years after the attacks of 9/11, we are not as safe as we can and must be. Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. The 9/11 Commission's recommendations to secure our most vulnerable infrastructure remain virtually ignored. And, homeland security funding has been cut for cities like Boston and New York.

"It's clear that staying the current course in Iraq is not making the American people any safer at home or abroad, and has hurt our fight in the war on terror. We need to put the focus back where it belongs, and make America as safe as it can and must be."

Ken Melhman proceeded to accuse Kerry and Harry Reid of being "weak on terror" or some bullshit, so Kerry's spokesman responded:

“Ken Mehlman’s command of the facts is about as real as the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Americans are sick and tired of Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, and the masters of misdirection who got us bogged down in Iraq with no end in sight, and who have failed to kill Osama bin Laden. If these Republicans were half as good at fighting the war on terror as they are at misleading the American public, we’d be a lot safer than we are today. The day of reckoning for their failed policies is November 12th 2006, and only then will we begin to have leadership that knows how to make America safe.”

[Iwasthere]

10. Yes but enmasse not a few Dems here and a few there

And then we need to all be ready with cameras after they call out their BS. Things will then escalate and if we are all watching closely enough perhaps we can catch em.