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Fri Aug-11-06 02:21 PM
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Chertoff on live admits: No evidence plot even involved United States. |
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Did I just hear that correctly?
We disrupted internation commerce and tourism and freaked out America for WHAT?
Where the hell are you Bush apologist who chastized those of us who said the detail fallout would prove this is BULLSHIT. It's is happening NOW, LIVE on CNN.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:23 PM
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1. We now return to the regularly scheduled war, death, and destruction. |
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:23 PM
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Wouldn't be surprised if Parliament isn't ready to throw a vote of NO CONFIDENCE Blair's way.
Think about this. How do you control a LARGE group of people who are not happy with your policies? FEAR!!!!
IMO, this is a complete exercise in CONTROL. Why can't someone bring a chapstick on a plane yet only 10% check-in across the country is scanned for bombing materials? That means all of these long lines and "security" checks really mean NOTHING, eh? Who cares if I have a lipstick tube with me if the belly of my plane is FULL OF EXPLOSIVES? Think about it.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:31 PM
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7. I see Chapstick sales going up up up ...... |
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Yeah, nothing to worry about when only 10% of checked luggage is scanned. After all, if a bomb goes off in the belly of the plane ... well .... I guess you are dead. Oh, ok .... think positive, we are taking away toilet items.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:32 PM
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9. It's all about CONTROL. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 02:32 PM by fooj
It's all about controlling the masses...
Getting us "accustomed" to it.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:09 PM
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25. AP: U.S. Travelers Adjusting to New Rules (the media is in on it) |
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Yes, it's a major disruption but the sheeple are going along with it because....? http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/08/11/453649.html
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:10 PM
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26. WE CAN'T "adjust"! Geez....... |
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:19 PM
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31. Well, there it is in print, per your link...... |
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<snip> No Evidence of U.S.-Based Threat Found By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer 33 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Investigators have uncovered no signs of U.S.-based terrorists linked to a plot to blow up airliners headed to the United States, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Friday. <snip>
We American sheeple MUST STOP ADJUSTING TO/ACCEPTING this crap.
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'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:15 PM
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30. They just wanted our lip gloss |
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:24 PM
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3. This is the first of many admissions regarding this thing. |
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By Saturday night those nitwits will probably be released on lack of evidence.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:34 PM
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12. they can hold them for 28 days |
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Im sure they will hold them for that time and then release them. This story will be totally forgotten by then.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:44 PM
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20. I think that the outcry will be rather big on this. I don't think they |
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they will wait, they will want to put it behind them right away.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:25 PM
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4. He really said that? I am not listening and want to know for sure. |
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:29 PM
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but but but I thought I was a loony MIHOPer yesterday |
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:29 PM
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5. I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying it is all made up? |
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Or that it involved England, with the only USA involvment being the planes flying to USA? And this means what. Thank you for clarifying.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:43 PM
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19. I'm not sure what it means. That's why I asked for confirmation. |
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I generally keep Cabal News Network on in my studio as background noise, or even with the pic off while music plays. But the audio was on this time, and Chertoff was giving a live press conference. A reporter asked him something about the threat to United States air traffic, and he said, or at least what I think I heard him say, is that "We have no evidence the plot involved the United States." I don't know if I heard it correctly, or if he meant United States air traffic, U.S. investigators, or what. But I am pretty sure that is what he said.
Either that or it was something about Kirk Douglass being dead.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:30 PM
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6. This better be the lead news story tonight. |
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Lying sacks of crap.
Terror Terror Terror
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:31 PM
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8. What they're doing to us is terrorism. |
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Every time our government scares the shit out of us over something like this (and I'm not saying the plot wasn't real) - they're terrorizing us. The media of course, complies.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:33 PM
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Control the people by TERRORIZING them.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:32 PM
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10. If he really said that (I'm not doubting you, just want confirmation) |
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then WHAT THE H*LL is everyone throwing their water bottles, suntan lotion, medicine, contact solution, books, and god-all-else into a FREAKING GARBAGE CAN for!!!!!
What a bunch of sorry-ass FREAKS our mis-leaders are!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:35 PM
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13. and all that stuff was put into waiting garbage trucks |
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so if "they" were really concerned about bombs and chemicals why did they just treat it as trash?
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:40 PM
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16. We ought to make that guy pay for the chemical analysis |
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 02:42 PM by The_Casual_Observer
of every last god damn bottle of soda and tube of toothpaste out of his own fucking pocket so next time they will at least think the thing through for a second.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:42 PM
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17. I honestly believe that they were just 'testing' us to see how |
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 02:45 PM by Mind_your_head
we, the sheeple of the United States of America, would react to this latest insult to our persona's and dignity.
(I hope my new sig line shows up)
on edit: I don't know why the new sig didn't show up, but this is what it's 'gonna be' (once I figure out how to change it properly)
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'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:48 PM
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:01 PM
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23. You're absolutely correct, fooj |
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There are a few really good threads about this that are on greatest page, such as: A Nation of Suspects http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2773523An Experiment in Sociology http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1885359(I think there might be a few more that I'm neglecting). That's why we folks have to really really GET MAD, STAY MAD, and say ENOUGH!!!!!
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:08 PM
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24. It's amazing how folks just fall into lockstep... |
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even pre-bunchy air passengers. If anybody would tell the feds to eff off it's the cranky air passengers.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:13 PM
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We've all seen the video clips - people at the airport 'tossing' their liquid items into giant garbage bags, calmly held by airport personnel.
You think someone might have an unstable explosive material, and you invite them to throw it into a garbage bag IN THE MIDDLE OF A CROWDED AIRPORT.
If this story had any plausibility, they would have shut down the airport, cancelled all flights, and warned passengers via widesprad media coverage NOT to bring these items to the airport when they came back for their re-scheduled flights.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:21 PM
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32. I would guess airport staff took home enough shampoo, hand |
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lotion and toothpaste to last years
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:34 PM
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... I wonder if there are any UK reporters looking into exactly what WAS DONE with all of that stuff.
Was it hauled away by regular garbage trucks via well-travelled roads, amidst other traffic? If so, it means THEY KNEW there was no risk of any explosive materials being there -- which then begs the question: Why did they confiscate it in the first place, unless it was Terra PR for the masses?
This whole story has WAY TOO MANY loose ends ...
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:31 PM
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if the alleged gelatinous bombs are controlled with a remote (ipod or cell phone), then what would stop them from exploding if they were in the checked baggage compartment vs. an overhead bin?
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:43 PM
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36. There you go! If we're in danger, SHUT DOWN THE AIRPORTS, CANCEL FLIGHTS. |
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Damn, y'all. And where are the "clampdowners" today - who accused us of such nasty things yesterday.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:36 PM
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14. My first reaction to any breaking news from |
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Bushco via MSM is what do they not want us to focus on at this time. It won't be the first or last hoax out of England either. Watching on BBC is way too funny as people in their communities aren't buying this one. One is a Tory politician's son.
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:37 PM
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15. The corporate media = Presstitutes who question nothing |
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They are:
State Media White House Stenographers (thank you, Colbert) CNN/FOX/MSNBC = Propaganda Central
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:42 PM
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18. Does anybody have exactly what he said, as in quotes? |
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Fri Aug-11-06 02:45 PM
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21. We will ALL be fed a steady diet of terra, terra and more terra........ |
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until the november elections are over. rethugs don't have anything else to sell.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:12 PM
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27. CODE RED! CODE RED! CODE RED! |
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A Bush Administration official just told the truth about something!
SOUND ALL ALARMS! THIS IS A POLITICAL EMERGENCY!
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:12 PM
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28. Yes, this was a plot aimed at US bound flights from the UK |
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There is no reason to cause all this commotion and disruption unless they have further information about part of a plot based inside the US. Since they don't, and they were also informed of the plot at least a few days before any of this, then this sure as hell seems like a crass political ploy.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:35 PM
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35. The only question which of their ineptitudes, lies and cynical imperialist |
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 04:36 PM by mom cat
plots they were trying to cover this time ... maybe a fist full of them. Hey! How come they never get labled "conspiracy theorists"?
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