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Fri Aug-11-06 03:35 PM
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The Liberal equivalent to Ann Coulter....? |
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I am in discussion right now where some wing-nut is saying Michael Moore is exactly like Ann Coulter. I pointed out the myriad of ways they were not the same.
That got me to thinking...Do WE on the left have our own Coulter?
If so, who is it?
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:36 PM
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1. LOL I love him but Malloy? |
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 03:44 PM by insane_cratic_gal
Of course minus the heels, and Malloy has a soul, which Ann does not.
but If I HAD to pick a similar tone, I'd say Malloy.
Moore can't done what Malloy can do.. that's work a crowd with just his speech.
Moore is too contrive if he tries to speak from the hip.. it doesn't come out right, Moore is a writer, he needs a script to come off well. Malloy is a natural born speaking Motivator his show gets me worked up and anyone who listens to it.
but you can tell that Malloy hold a lot animosity and anger (for good reasons) at the right wing nuts to the point of a frenzy, I feel for him sometimes.. I think it's almost unhealthy for him, I wish him peace.
Ann on the other hand.. she's beyond help, she's internalized her darkness she can't say something nice about anyone.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:38 PM
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I have never heard Malloy's show or when he's done a show. I rarely stream shows and now that DC has Progressive talk (1260) I get Rachel Maddo, Stephanie Miller and on the way home Ed Shultz and sometimes Randy.
But I've never heard Malloy. I looked up his Bio and like what I read...Our Coulter? Hmmm.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:46 PM
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17. Malloy is my guru! Great suggestion, Insane! But there's just one |
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problem: Mike has said over and over that he doesn't have solutions and despises praise.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:38 PM
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3. Not exactly but that dude |
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Ward Churchill ,I believe? Who said all those in the WTC were "little Eichman's" and deserverd to die. Yeah, he would count. Of course I've seen people around here say Jill Carroll deserved to have her head cut off because she was in Iraq. No, I'm not kidding. And no, he wasn't a freeper but still a good standing DU member. Oh and people say the 9/11 widows should "shut the fuck up" and just enjoy their millions. YES, even supposed liberals have hate inside them.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:38 PM
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There are probably people on the left who have attitides and speech like Coulter; but they're not celebrated by MSM. Coulter seems to be on TV almost every night.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:41 PM
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10. That was actually my biggest argument.. |
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I was asking him...Find someone on the left paraded around by the media that is like Coulter?
Moore does films that you only see if you choose to. Coulter just shows up on the damn TV show when you aren't even expecting it and she is promoted as some sort of sensible individual.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:39 PM
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5. None that I can think of. |
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:39 PM
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6. I think Michael Moore is a good choice. |
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No, they don't use all of the same tactics, but Moore is a propagandist. He does play fast and loose with the facts.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:43 PM
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But Moore doesn't call for the deaths of all conservatives. |
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That's a freaking huge difference IMHO
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:24 PM
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41. As I said, their methods have differences. |
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However, both spin facts that are, at times, dubious, to promote an agenda. Both make their livings intentionally upsetting the opposing party.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:53 PM
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I've only seen his F9/11. If you can contain it that, I might watch the movie again this weekend to see.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:40 PM
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7. Coulter & Moore do have one thing in common |
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:41 PM
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9. Mann's Adam's Apple is bigger, I think. n/t |
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:09 PM
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36. Olberman took a shot at |
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Coultergeist last night with an "adam's apple" aside. He had David Brock on from MediaMatters debunking Ann's "Godless" book. Lots of fact errors. Her publisher, Crown, just printed whatever she wrote -- no checking for validity. As an example, Brock cited her hysterical claim in her book that kindergartners were being schooled in adult sexual acitivities. Her footnote claimed an article from the NTY as the source. Well, go to the cited source and it's an article from 20 years ago...about Dartmouth students learning sex ed. Not kindergartners. And that's just one of her glaring errors.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:40 PM
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just to make your freeper friend have a brain fart.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:43 PM
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11. I've heard a few people say it's Ted Rall n/t |
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:35 PM
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30. that'd be my choice. Malloy voices outrage- but doesn't throw in bullshit |
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and insulting stuff meant to just shock the way Coulter does.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:43 PM
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12. Michael Moore in public perception only. He's too responsible in reality |
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:43 PM
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13. There is no liberal "coultergeist" :) |
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Michael Moore is a compassionate person who points out the truth with brilliant documentaries, which *wingnuts just HATE. He's for the little guy. Coulter is simply a hater who appeals to homophobes, racists, bigots and all the rest of the scum in the RW pond. (no offense to scum)
People like her and the rest of the rw bloviators should be banned from the airwaves with their hate filled spew they call "entertainment".
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:15 PM
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40. It's like asking if there's any angel "equivalent" to Satan's worst devil! |
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It's really pretty impossible to have someone as an "opposite" that one would be called "liberal". By definition, both would have to be self-centered. And most self-centered people are Republicans or worse.
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:43 PM
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43. Yes indeedy, the GOP loves her message ! |
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Funny how they let her get away with attacking the 9-11 widows (who are definitely a thorn in BushCo's side!) and other trash talking.
Olbermann does a pretty good job shredding her credibility.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:44 PM
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14. WE wouldn't want a coulter on our side |
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can you imagine, for even one minute, lefties lining up to support and scheduling television interviews and buying books from a liberal who advocated murdering conservatives?
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:45 PM
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15. Moore is a self-promoter like Coulter, but not nearly as nasty |
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I'd say Ted Rall is as nasty as Coulter, but not as much of a self-promoter.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:46 PM
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16. No..because dems use FACTS |
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"writers" like Ann use bullshit they make up as they go along.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:50 PM
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18. NO!!! She spews nothing but hate! the Wicket Witch of the right |
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:51 PM
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19. No, I can't think of one that preaches hate |
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not even Malloy....nor any libs that have called for the death of a rival...
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:52 PM
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 03:54 PM by elehhhhna
Great public speaker, smartass, tall, blond, super corporate/legal sales woman, at least as telegenic as Anne-- I could annihilate her in a debate & make her and their Party a laughingstock if given the chance.
Anybody want to ghostwrite an incendiary, snarky ANTICON book(let)? I'll front for it.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:55 PM
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22. better yet, I'll do the cover in drag and let me latex falsies |
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show and part of me scrotum dangle from my little black cocktail dress.
if they're going to compare our adam's apples they may as well start making nearly verifiable claims that I Am Actually A Man, too.
:rofl:
Wouldn't that be a hoot. Fortunately/Unfortunately I've never had the urge to do it so I would be REALLY BAD at it. Except the debate part - I could do that with one tongue tied behind my back.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:58 PM
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nah c'mon I wanna do it...plus I'm 6"1', 150 lbs but clearly a woman. |
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It'll piss her off. I even have 2 bio children to PROVE IT! And a husband! PLEEEEASE?
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:52 PM
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Well they both have adam's apples, but the similarity stops there.
Michael Moore has never advocated even hyperbolic violence against anyone, including republicans and neo cons. You can't compare a relative pacifist to a rabid anti-intellectual hate mongering bag of bitter bones.
What an odd odd thing to say; Ann Coulter is subhuman, and in permanent glucose deficit craving crack, cigarettes and a dime sized breathmint for dinner.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:56 PM
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it drives me crazy. Mike Moore doesn't have a hateful bone in his body. they are nuts.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:58 PM
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24. We have NO wholesale liars... |
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I really can't think of anyone, even our own dear Distressed American, who comes even within spitting distance of the vitriolic beast.
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:58 PM
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" It's high time we killed all of the Neocons and "Eat The Rich"
Come on, Everyone out of the projects and invade the McMansions" "Kill them all and bury them out back" Move in 10 families of Latinos into each one"
100 people per Bank Branch Loot all the money
!0 million people on the WH lawn
Invade Crawford en mass!
(How am I doing?)
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Fri Aug-11-06 03:59 PM
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26. If anybody comes close, it's probably Ted Rall |
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He's about as inflammatory, and even makes the same attacks as Ann Coulter on occasion. Then again, he's a bit more of an iconoclast, rather than following the marching orders of a political party, so he attacks Democrats far more often than Coulter attacks Republicans.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:48 PM
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32. i'd have to agree...although Rall is intelligent... |
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...articulate, well-documented, and puts his body where his mouth is (he covered the invasion of Afghanistan, on his own dime, as an unembedded reporter)...opinionated and brash, but not nearly as vicious...or vacuous. And he's better looking...and his characature of Junior as a drooling, third-world generallisimo is priceless.
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:12 PM
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39. Ted Rall used to have a talk show out here in L.A., and he was |
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surprisingly restrained. After reading his cartoons, I was expecting a firebrand. He's actually very methodical in his arguments and deliberate in his speech.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:04 PM
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27. Nope, none. To have a LW "equivalent," she would have to be... |
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...endlessly prostituted by the MSM/Cable "news" and be allowed to lie endlessly about every radical, LW idea that pops into her head.
So no, when someone like that does appear on the MSM, they are quickly labeled a LW Wacko, or worst, and then quickly dismissed.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:09 PM
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28. We have plenty of mouth-frothing, knee-jerking, nasty-talking bigots... |
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...we just don't elevate them to the status of spokes-holes and prophets and the punditocracy.
cynically, Bright
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:11 PM
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They walk among us. But we don't get our millionaire buddies to bulk buy their books or fly them around the country to shill their diatribes with paid-off talk show hosts.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:18 PM
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29. Absolutely not. Period. Exclamation point. |
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I'm sure we could find some lefties similarly vocal, such as Malloy, but you will not find any with the mainstream media support that Coulter receives.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:37 PM
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31. The left has no one as abrasive, as dishonest and as despicable |
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as Coulter. It takes a special breed of miscreant to do and say what Coulter does. Liberals, by definition, can bring no one to the table as low as she. She's one, minuscule step above plant life.
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Fri Aug-11-06 04:48 PM
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33. I've met a few bar-dwelling commies with caustic senses of humor |
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I think you'd have to go that far left to find a true parallel for her ideology-driven disdain for truth & logic. Of course lefty loonies don't get on TV. Moore is a propagandist, but he traffics in fact and the occasional sarcastic jibe. Coulter is just pure distilled mean--and seems to be a bit emotionally unbalanced.
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:03 PM
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35. Well, I would like to round up all conservatives and put them in camps... |
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just as Coulter advocates for liberal. So, maybe it's me. Except for my cock is bigger than Coulter's
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:09 PM
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Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 05:15 PM by Marr
I like her, but it's only because I'm on her side, politically. She tends to make leaps in logic sometimes, making claims that aren't strictly backed up by facts.
However, there are still three big differences between her and Coulter:
1. She's not a liar. Coulter is. Randi's arguments are based on facts at their base, though she does sometimes make leaps in logic.
2. She does not, and never will, get the kind of media exposure that Coulter gets. Wild, unmoderated, right-wing rhetoric is acceptable in the corporate media. Left wing rhetoric is not.
3. Randi Rhodes rants for a political side, she doesn't sell hatred and racism, as Coulter does.
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Fri Aug-11-06 05:31 PM
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42. Most of all you will never hear the racist remarks out of |
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Randi that Ann tosses around like it's acceptable, like calling a respected senior journalist an old arab and other racist things she says about Middle Easteners.
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