discussion of "Rogue State" on msnbc (book OBL said to read)

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1. books helps to explain our polices in ME (and why 'they hate us")

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2. tells of our policies in the ME (but careful to say does not 'justify' 9/1

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5. debate about our dropping of bombs day after day on civilians.

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6. says the american consciousness is increasing all the time to the terrible

things we do them.

[BattyDem]

3. You mean they don't hate us for our freedom?

:sarcasm:

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10. gurss not.

[Rick Myers]

4. This guy has balls!!!

Damn!!!

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8. Joe S. did not like what he (the author) was saying!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

7. This is the same author of "Killing Hope". n/t

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9. I do not know. Have been meaning to read Rogue state but have not

gotten areound to it.

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11. playing kerry, kennedy Murtha tapes. (the things we do)

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12. Joe is comparing the words of OBL to Dems and Micheal Moore

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13. 'parroting the DNC'--says Tucker Carlson.

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15. well, this is an interesting take on the tape!!!!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

16. I will be very happy when someone slaps the bitch ass clip on off

his shirt.

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18. snap--its gone (in my mind)

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. I was saying that indeed he is. I bought it a while back but I'm way

behind in my reading. (Killing Hope I mean)

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17. good luck catching up.

[TahitiNut]

21. Yep ...

Killing Hope : U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II-Updated Through 2003 (2003)
Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower (2000)
Freeing the World to Death : Essays on the American Empire (2004)
West-Bloc Dissident: A Cold War Political Memoir (2001)
Freeing the World to Death (2004)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author-exact=William%20Blum&rank=-relevance%2C%2Bavailability%2C-daterank/104-8310469-7643114

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

22. Oh come on! This guy is a beardless Osama. n/t

[TahitiNut]

23. "A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force."

"It is a scandal in contemporary international law, don't forget, that while "wanton destruction of towns, cities and villages" is a war crime of long standing, the bombing of cities from airplanes goes not only unpunished but virtually unaccused. Air bombardment is state terrorism, the terrorism of the rich. It has burned up and blasted apart more innocents in the past six decades than have all the antistate terrorists who ever lived. Something has benumbed our consciousness against this reality. In the United States we would not consider for the presidency a man who had once thrown a bomb into a crowded restaurant, but we are happy to elect a man who once dropped bombs from airplanes that destroyed not only restaurants but the buildings that contained them and the neighborhoods that surrounded them. I went to Iraq after the Gulf war and saw for myself what the bombs did; "wanton destruction" is just the term for it."
-- C. Douglas Lummis, political scientist, The Nation, September 26, 1994, p.304

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

24. It's not that people can't understand this.

It's that they don't want to.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

19. With you guys here, I don't need cable. I'm glad I canceled it. n/t

[Generator]

20. This book was published in 2000

has nothing to do with Bush. Has everything to do with the military-industrial complex-and the CIA. Maybe "Osama" is sending us a message. They know that we know that they are the real terrorists. I swear it's really damn weird.

From a reviewer on Amazon:

The U.S. government knows this very well, encourages it and exploits it for all it's worth. As William Colby, former Director of the CIA, once admitted:

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

In "Rogue State" William Blum points out that the corporate mass-media and PR propaganda campaigns have done a superlative job of covering up, distracting from and just plain lying through their teeth about America's ongoing crimes against humanity.