Kerry responds to NBC's Chris Matthews' partisan attack on Michael Moore

[kpete]

Thursday, January 19, 2006

John Kerry responds to NBC's Chris Matthews' partisan attack on Michael Moore
by John in DC - 1/19/2006 10:51:00 PM


Kerry just released the following statement. Good for him.


"You'd think the only focus tonight would be on destroying Osama Bin Laden, not comparing him to an American who opposes the war whether you like him or not. You want a real debate that America needs? Here goes: If the administration had done the job right in Tora Bora we might not be having discussions on Hardball about a new Bin Laden tape. How dare Scott McClellan tell America that this Administration puts terrorists out of business when had they put Osama Bin Laden out of business in Afghanistan when our troops wanted to, we wouldn't have to hear this barbarian's voice on tape. That's what we should be talking about in America." -- John Kerry


Along those lines, Dick Cheney said this today:
"It is no accident that we haven't been hit in more than four years."
Oh yeah? It's also no accident that Osama bin Laden hasn't been captured in more than four years.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/john-kerry-responds-to-nbcs-chris.html

[rockymountaindem]

1. Too bad Kerry is a milquetoast who doesn't fight back

:sarcasm:

It's not his fault that his best moments don't get on the nightly news.

[seabeyond]

19. you are boring, just boring in these comments n/t

[rockymountaindem]

21. You're a flip flopper

and your supposed personal ties to the wise Yoda are in doubt because Darth Vader said he never saw you two together.

[The Backlash Cometh]

72. I heard a great comeback, but it's a comeback when someone calls you a

two face. The rebuttal was, "If I were a two face, would I be wearing this one?"

Abraham Lincoln said it.

[seabeyond]

24. wrong place

[Jim Sagle]

28. Not only that - he's a socialistic, Frenchlooking, horsefaced flipflopper.

[Hubert Flottz]

71. He's a "Herman Munster!"

And a War Hero! Who the Hell needs War Heroes????

[Zenlitened]

86. War Heroes: Wrong For America

It's the new republican party slogan.

:puke:

[blm]

101. Damn - that's a GREAT one to use

May we steal it?

[Zenlitened]

115. By all means.

Be sure to include Hubert Flottz in the credits, though.

:)

[seabeyond]

91. i owe you an apology......

i didnt see the sarcasm. something i would say and assume someone got the sarcasm, without putting right in face. you even added the sarcasm and i didnt see. so sorry, wink. i misread your post

[rockymountaindem]

100. No prob.

At no point was I offended.

[no_more_rhyming]

139. Don't bother me while I'm kiteboarding..... :-0

[Joe Chi Minh]

142. Yeah, and how many Americans would want a New Deal... when

they can have more of the same! Only one viable candidate stands for just that, a New Deal - and that's Kerry.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. Holy Fuck He Seriously Released That? THAT'S MY PRESIDENT!!!

That is awesome! I love Kerry. Don't care what the bitters got to say about him.

That statement rocks.

[_dynamicdems]

51. He's my President too! And we've only seen the coming attractions.

This year, the focus needs to be on getting Dems into office. Once we get some power in Congress, I'll bet JK will lead the pack in tarring and feathering (ie: impeachment). We have to concentrate on this years elections, but after that, the gloves will be so off... It makes me smile just to think about it.

JK is no wimp...anyone who has met him can attest to that. There is this undercurrent to the guy: he's very macho, a total "tough guy." Beneath the Senatorial dignity, which he has mastered, he is totally "alpha." He's not somebody to F with. Trust me on that. He might make nice in the political arena, but he's not one to forgive and forget. Okay, I might be outing myself as a total nerd here, but to use Star Trek as an example: JK might look and act like a Vulcan, but he's got strong Klingon instincts.

Anyone who doesn't believe me: just watch and wait.

[mdmc]

82. Agreed! That statement does rock!

Al Gore's speech rocked!
Hillary continues to rock!
Go Kerry!

(but lets see how they oppose the military industrial complex in action).

[jean]

3. Good response. Remember Tora Bora. The public needs to be

informed since most have no clue.

[LittleClarkie]

42. He's always been the one to beat that particular drum

All through the primaries, and then on David Letterman, and again in the first debate. Tora Bora.

[sharky]

97. Tora Bora

and you were there?? enlighten us. thank you.

[karynnj]

108. Both CIA people and military people

have conceded that Kerry was correct. At the time of the Tora Bora fight, the major papers covered that they heard OBL' s sattellite phone - they knew he was there - but they used Afghan warlords to block off the passages out towards Pakistan.

Were you there, Shaky?

[paulk]

109. this guy was

http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/jawbreaker/

if you're really interested, read the book....

[blm]

117. Every legitimate report from CIA and miltary AT Tora Bora match Kerry's

version.

Care to explain why you DOUBT those reports?

[Bridget Burke]

127. Do your homework.

The truth is out there.

[AX10]

4. Chris Matthews should never have been born.

May his brother be swiftboated!

[hopeisaplace]

27. and no zoozoo's pedals either for him!

Clarence take a day off.

[noahmijo]

85. Bert whaddaya know about that!! HAHA!! I'm goin to jail!!!!!!!!

sorry it's a little late but I couldn't resist :)

[hopeisaplace]

136. ROTFLMAO!!!

very funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[upi402]

33. postalbirth abortion?

is that a term?

[senseandsensibility]

5. Frankly

I'm surprised that Kerry "lowered" himself to respond to a lowlife like Matthews. Of course I agree with everything he said.

[glitch]

20. This is the beginning of a new dirty campaign. Kerry recognises this

and is responding with rapid fire. Matthews alone is not worth it, but as an organ in the echo chamber, he is worth squishing. Like a cockroach.

[LittleClarkie]

30. Yep, Scarborough just did the same thing

only with Kennedy, Kerry, Murtha et al.

So he chose Matthews to respond to, over Scarborough

[glitch]

32. Maybe Scarborough will get his too.

Everybody dance la cucaracha!

[MessiahRp]

74. Yeah but everyone knows

Scarborough is a partisan hack. Matthews is supposed to be non-partisan. NBC uses him on their main news broadcasts for analysis. SNL parodies him. Matthews is a much bigger hit than Scarborough is.

And the fact that what Matthews said paints anti-war lefties in such a light that ties them to the terrorists, that is as bad as the whole "unpatriotic" shit the Republicans were pulling off before. If we don't beat down those labels now we're doomed to be called that to the point of brainwashing to moderates and independents where they vote against us fearing we have no spine.

This sort of attack needed squashing quickly and Matthews was a big enough mark to take the punch.

Rp

[Susan43]

144. You are exactly right

If you watched Matthews tonight you would have seem he has a new feature called Hotshots. It is Scarbourough, Rita Cosby and Tucker Carlson. They have several minutes to beat up on democrats. It is just disgusting. I have written MSNBC and Matthews that they have just lost me. Mathews is now Fox lite.

The other night he had Sen. Deiers as his last guest. He did nothing but beat up on liberals. I guess Matthews has finally shown his true colors.

I am really disheartened.

[Blue_In_AK]

6. I'm so glad John Kerry said that...

The media people were making me pretty sick tonight. Can they really be so clueless?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

47. They aren't clueless, they're corporate whores

nm

[Sydnie]

7. He is coming out fighting - good for all of us

Thank You President Kerry. You do make me proud. :)

[Canuckistanian]

8. Bravo! Bravo!

What's that I see on Kerry? A spine? It looks good on him!

This, and the solidarity with Gore's speech makes him officially a mensch.

[neoblues]

49. Imagine that, signs of life...

Imagine that, signs of life from the two previous Democratic Presidential Candidates who were both ripped off by the Republican Vote Alteration Organization. Glad to see it, but it's about time.

[InsultComicDog]

56. It's a shame they didn't have this much fire when they were

actually running for office.

But better late than never.

I want to see some Democratic anger this year and not measured, wishy-washiness.

[bobbieinok]

141. media did NOT cover them.....and where is his statement in the M$M????

[bklyncowgirl]

9. Thank you John Kerry

We all want this son of a bitch dead--and if Bush had done his fucking job he would have been killed or in prison years ago.

[bliss_eternal]

10. Rock ON, President Kerry!

:applause:

:yourock:

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yay Kerry!

:loveya: I'm glad he did that! Someone needs to tell them off! How rude of them!

[xray s]

12. Good for Kerry

Now someone should go on that shithead Tweetys show and slap him around, and ask him why he was helping Jack Abramoff raise money for his scam charity.

Kick that fucker in the balls for once. He likes it.

[rsmith6621]

13. Kerry Is An Opportunistic Has Been

Does ole John I will count all the Votes Kerry stay up late waiting for something to comment on.

I wish John Boy would use the Impeach and LIE word if he wasnt to say something Ill listen to otherwise he should just lay low and be quiet....he lost his chance to be PREZ when he failed to challenge the Ohio vote.

[Pirate Smile]

16. Lame.

:eyes:

How dare he go after Matthews and slam Bush? The nerve...

:eyes:

[mitchtv]

23. Sorry JK didn't say what YOU want him to say

He did, however do the right thing.It would be nice if he was not the only one to stand up for MM or rather, stand up against the RW noise machine starring tweety tonite.

[elshiva]

29. RICHARD NIXON.

[LittleClarkie]

34. Acutally he's quite busy at the mo'

Probably jetlagged as well, since he's in the middle of a fucking war zone at the moment.

[jobycom]

38. You know, there are boards for those who don't like Democrats

[Maru Kitteh]

55. As compared to you?

What are you?

John boy? Who's news reporters were waiting by your door or for your phone call on tis matter? Uh-huh. Let us know when you hit the big time.

[blm]

93. Opportunists cozied up to Nixon, Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 - not investigate

them and expose them for corruption and criminality or seek investigations of their criminality.

[yurbud]

104. timing is everything. In 2008, I'll look at what candidate said in 2002

It's easy to find some backbone when the Tard King in on the ropes (though many Dems still aren't) but the real test is who stood up for our democracy and values when Bush was at the zenith of his popularity.

[Laurab]

145. I don't think he was asking to be PREZ when he commented

I think he was fighting back against the RW spin machine. I don't think he should "lay low and be quiet" at all - there is so much to fight against, and he is a voice many people listen to. Why anyone would have a problem with that is beyond me.

[TheBaldyMan]

14. but ... but ... when you don't support the President

pulling all the arabic speaking special forces out of Afghanistan and send them to Iraq where OBL wasn't you support the terrorists

[SillyGoose]

15. He nailed it to the wall with that statement!!

Damn, that was good.

[cynatnite]

17. He sounded pissed!

I do so like John Kerry. A real American hero!

[LittleClarkie]

37. You can always tell the difference can't you?

When he's being intellectual, and when it's coming from his gut.

I love it when he's angry.

[Sydnie]

40. Me too

Makes me positively giddy with delight. Hope to see more of it too.

[cynatnite]

48. I hope he keeps it up...

All the dems...Hillary, Harry, Obama...don't give the repukes a minute to breathe. I'm loving it!

[LittleClarkie]

18. Rapid Response

Oh yeah.

[Deb]

22. Kerry is right on

I'm so glad he gave Tweety and Puffy a richly deserved tongue lashing. Spank 'em Senator! Woo Hoo!!

[globalvillage]

25. Woo Hoo, Senator!

:yourock:

That was a kick ass statement.

[seabeyond]

26. another good for kerry. i had sent an email to matthew

about moore. he went to far doing this to an american citizen. whether you agree with moore or not, what he does is from his heart, in helping his fellow american. waht mattews did was just nasty.

seems like kerry is spending a lot of his time as he stands up for others, only to have so many fellow dems dissing him time and again for no reason


kerry once again shows his strong character

[upi402]

31. good for Kerry!

:patriot:

[reality based]

35. If Kerry will turn his boats into the line of fire and attack like he

did in Vietnam, I am prepared to follow. We are at war. The enemies of American democracy not only include the ex-governor of Texas and his political-economic cabal but a host of boot-licking sycophantic scumballs like Matthews. Fire away, Senator!

[AX10]

39. I view Chris Matthews as being no different from the terrorists.

Both are enemies of American Democracy and both need to be destroyed in order to protect American Democracy.

[upi402]

61. I'll follow Kerry too, but he turned away at a critical time

Rethugs never back down, ever. They challenge anything and everything and no holds are barred.

[socalover]

36. Chris Matthews is such a flip flopping bitch! nt

[LittleClarkie]

41. I call him Sybil

It's gone far beyond simple flip flopping.

[BlueIris]

66. Pete, that's brilliant. I'm stealing that.

:-)

[LittleClarkie]

68. Actually, it's Erica/Little Clarkie, but steal away

I stole it from someone else myself

[politicasista]

43. Go Kerry!!

:kick: :yourock:

[_dynamicdems]

44. Thank you, Senator Kerry!

He's right. Nobody seems to be talking about WHY Bin Laden is still on the loose. Good old Osama always seems to turn up when Bsh is in trouble. Notice that? Just before the election, remember? This guy seems to be Bsh's best friend. No wonder why they haven't really tried to capture him. He's far too useful to the administration. Heck, if the Boogyman was caught, what then would Shrub have to scare us with?

[LuckyLib]

147. Coinkidental, don't you think?

As the Abramoff stuff broke, my SO said, "We should be hearing from Osama any day now!" And voila!!!

[_dynamicdems]

151. Isn't it? Osama does more for Bush than Karl Rove. It would not be

in Bush's best interest to capture the man. Why should he want rid us of the veru boogeyman he's using to scare us? Personally, I'm more frightened of the boogeyman we have in the oval office.

[ohtransplant]

45. Swallow hard tweety...

Uncle John's takin' you to the woodshed. Go cut yourself a switch to get beat with.

This guy really deserves to be smacked around. Glad to see JK come out swinging - once again.

[neoblues]

50. Tweety T_rd

Tweety Tur_, Thot He Taw a Puddy Tat... He diid! He diiid!

[EVDebs]

46. They don't want to capture OBL. They could have long ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2025401

With a 6' tall Saudi running around the Hindu Kush Mts. in need of kidney dialysis equipment, you'd think an RFID of some sort would have made its way there...but no. They can track your purchase of underware from Wal-Mart however.

And this latest tape. Doesn't it seem WEIRD that OBL always pops up with at tape or something right when W needs help in the polls ? Just pointing out the obvious.

[neoblues]

52. If they caught him, he might testify...

Their so-called "failure" to capture him speaks volumes... plainly they don't want to and have avoided succeeding whenever or wherever needed.

If they actually caught Ben Laden, he might actually testify against them... after all, do you really think OBL really carried out 9/11 on his own (if he or any islamoterrorists were actually involved)? Even before 9/11, what sorts of offers was Bush making to the Taliban/OBL in order to sweeten the deal for the proposed oil pipeline to be built across Afghanistan?

[EVDebs]

54. I'm beginning to think OBL may be part of MIHOP or LIHOP agent provacatur

Bush plainly has sooo much to gain by these opportunistically timed 'press releases'. It's almost as if Rove is writing them or dictating them. And the comments by freepers that Dems are giving OBL talking points...he's obviously missing the best ones from here on DU !

I've got a flair for the obvious and this time the BUSH/OBL connection appears too obvious.

[LittleClarkie]

57. Wait for it. It will turn out that this message is motnths old

They save them up, I think.

[EVDebs]

75. But the questions surrounding 9-11 are now years old....

The outline of a plane going into the Pentagon brings up some interesting questions
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=2141

as does the whole 'wargames' aspect of 9-11-01 the media NEVER investigates (along with Ptech and the whole WTC-7 building 'collapse', despite not being hit by a plane).

Wargames on 9-11
http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

[oasis]

60. Jack Cafferty pointed out the OBL tape coincidence today on CNN.

[LynnTheDem]

53. "It is no accident that we haven't been hit in more than four years."

Yeah, it's my Lucky Hat that's kept us from being hit the past 4 years.

I can prove it;

We haven't been hit in 4 years.

Ya know what's so fucking hilarious? Aside from grown men who supposedly "lead" this nation being so stupid as to say such totally stupid shit (it's called "specious reasoning", look it up, fucking freep assholes)...every fucking rightwingnut will obediently chant the same stupid shit. NEVER ONCE will it occur to them how fucking STUPID they are.

[EVDebs]

76. Whaddya mean ? Military hit daily in Iraq ? And the 14 EnduringBases?

If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building 'permanent' bases?
http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

If, as the administration says, we'll stand down as Iraqis stand up...

Then why the lie about withdrawal and why the swift-boating of Murtha ? Bush is deliberately following this policy line and lying about it. The Quakers have 'called' him on it with this weblink and as a result they've ended up being spied upon by the NSA. Retaliation. Domestic spying on your supposed political 'enemies' who are in reality offering up legitimate criticism.

Vietnam redux. The lies always catch up to you. Count on it.

[Ezlivin]

81. WE HAVE BEEN HIT! Doesn't anyone remember the ANTHRAX attack????

Or it doesn't count because our administration did it?

Repeat after me: We were hit again after 9/11.

Anthrax was mailed. People died.

Where is the administration's ongoing investigation of this extremely serious biological weapons attack?

Anyone?

[MH1]

58. Get 'im John!

:applause:

Nice smackdown. John:

:yourock:

[kerrygoddess]

59. Kerry's been consistent on Bush dropping the Osama ball

Kerry has consistently said that the Bush administration dropped the ball with capturing Osama bin Laden. A couple of weeks ago I posted that Gary Berntsen’s new book, “Jawbreaker” backs up what Kerry has been saying all along -

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1547

Here’s a quote from the recent discussion on this issue Kerry had in an interview with Don Imus, on Imus in the Morning:

KERRY: We had Osama bin Laden trapped in the mountains of Tora Bora . But the president and Donald Rumsfeld decided not to use Americans, the best fighting in the world — we have SEALS on the ground there. I’ve talked to some of them.

They wanted to go up after Osama bin Laden. And the orders were never given to bring in the 82nd Airborne or the Marines, or others, surround that mountain, do anything necessary. We outsourced that job to Afghans, who went up in the hills and Osama bin Laden escaped.

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1356

[EFerrari]

62. I've supported but never liked Mr. Kerry until today.

He did exactly the right thing.

Thank you, sir.

:kick:

[upi402]

63. Me, I liked him. But he let the bastards get away with too much BS

He did good. But didn't he seem to qualify his defense of Moore by that 'like him or not' stuff?

[EFerrari]

64. I think that's just a habit of respect for the viewpoints of people

who may not agree with him, and not a qualifier about Moore at all.

[upi402]

65. You're likely correct. That doesn't go over with Americans

that are not so educated, nor diplomatic.

We like our 2X4 of jingoism and 4X4 of tribalism.

[EFerrari]

67. Yes, I think that is right. The jingoism alone has become deafening

in the last few years. It's always been there but the volume has been turned up full ;(

[blm]

95. I always liked Kerry because he has NEVER been a jingoist who talks dumb

to Americans. He always talks TO them because of a civility that is natural to him.

Only America's media could turn that into a NEGATIVE quality.

[upi402]

148. Good point. Why oh why does it go over with Americans?

[karynnj]

111. No it STRENGTHENS the statement

because it really says even if you don't like Moore this statement is wrong. It seems Kerry is making 2 very big points:

1) Stop slandering people's character and patriotism

2) The fact that Bush should have caught Bin Laden in 2002 at Tora Bora.

[NVMojo]

69. I love John Kerry, a man of honor who was brutally attacked for us.

[karynnj]

112. That is so correct - Not to mention they attacked his wife

every bit as much.

[Skidmore]

70. This is the right thing to do. Slap the media back for

its untruths. Call them out by name and confront them with their words.

[MessiahRp]

73. "It's no accident we haven't been hit in eight years".

Think the Clinton Administration could have used that? al-Qaeda hit us in 1993 and not again until 2001 (on US soil). Since they are hitting us pretty hard in Iraq right now and I would say doing as much or more damage than the Cole attack or the embassy attacks, that puts Clinton ahead of Bush on how long we stopped Bin Laden.

Granted it was the first Bush who created this mess when he pissed them off by marching our troops onto their holy ground during the Gulf War, but I digress..

Thank god Kerry is standing up for Michael Moore. Joe Biden was a coward last night for not standing up to that sort of bullshit commentary by Matthews. Matthews is such a gutless puke these days to even say those kinds of slanderous remarks is ridiculous. Moore should get a lawyer and sue that asshole.

Rp

[underpants]

77. February 26, 1993

the first WTC attack. 5 WEEKS into the Clinton administration. Have you ever heard ONE SINGLE CLinton official even hint at blaming Poppa Bush's administration? Have you ever heard ONE SINGLE media type lay out the actual timeline?

Oh but 8 MONTHS wasn't enough for W. He only had EVERY SINGLE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY ON THE PLANET screaming at him "YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET HIT HARD".

[azmouse]

78. Thank you for saying that, President Kerry!!

:patriot:

[mzmolly]

79. So it was no accident that Clinton protected America for 8 then right?

Good for JK!

[mdmc]

80. yeah Kerry!

(now go vote for another war in Iran)...

[Presstitutes]

83. HIT THIS BLOG: An Open Letter to Chris Matthews

http://openlettertochrismatthews.blogspot.com/

[Zenlitened]

84. "You want a real debate that America needs? Here goes..."

Sweet! :applause:

There is absolutely no other way we are ever going to get back on the winning side. Our candidates have to grab the microphone and say "Listen up, I'm gonna tell you how it is, plain and simple."

This is a good press release from Kerry, and I hopes he keeps it up in the spoken word as well.

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[SlavesandBulldozers]

89. you're kidding right?

really? seriously?

"Chris Matthews is one democrat who gets it?"

Gets what? That Moore is as much of an enemy as OBL? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[Name removed]

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[SlavesandBulldozers]

94. so Moore is a terrorist, eh? Just not in the "sense" Bin Laden is.

he's big and fat and obnoxious and ruining the Democratic Party, of which Matthews should be a model. Am I following your "reasoning" correctly?

[CatWoman]

98. no

YOU are an idiot.

[samhsarah]

119. self-delete

posted in the wrong place

[Name removed]

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[blm]

96. Name 3 lies told by Michael Moore, please.

.

[Zenlitened]

114. *sound of crickets*

[SlavesandBulldozers]

99. the irony is. . .

if more Dems were like Chris Matthews, we'd have a Republican One-Party System, which we virtually have already.

That's like saying if more Republicans were like Howard Dean, I'd be a Republican. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever, but I think you know that, in all of your "left wing" wisdom.

[PegDAC]

138. I don't believe it!

Tweety's a Democrat? Probably in the same way that Joe LIEberman is a Democrat.
:puke:

[Beelzebud]

103. "Chris Matthews is a democrat that gets it"

You can't possibly be this damn stupid...

[Zenlitened]

107. That's excellent! You should write for The Onion!!!

Um, that was meant to be satire, right?

:yoiks:

[karynnj]

113. What does he like in Matthews? Both Gore and Kerry are very

honorable, thoughtful, intelligent men. I guess neither go around ranting like Matthews.

[samhsarah]

121. no

you and your father in law got it all wrong. a conservative democrat that voted twice for the man who brought us the biggest deficit EVER? Yeah, that's who I want advice from.

[LittleClarkie]

123. Nevermind, he's gone

Tombstoned.

[samhsarah]

124. i was wondering what was taking so long.

thanks for letting me know i was talking to a ghost. lol .:hi:

[Beelzebud]

88. Kerry should respond to Biden Whore too.

For going along with Tweety, and laughing at it, instead of planting a foot firmly up Tweety's ass...

[yurbud]

102. Kerry should have made his case this forcefully during debates

when the media couldn't cut away or distort him--at least those watching would have gotten an accurate picture and been able to see the distortion of what he said that followed.

Instead, while clearly being more coherent and knowledgable than Bush, he treated the Texas Tard with the same deference the wife of a wife-beater gives her husband; the meek smile, the gentle correction, but letting the sociopath essentially rage unchecked. His demeanor fit the effeminate stereotype the GOP tars the Democrats with.

I have a hard time picturing Howard Dean turning in the same performance, even if the words were exactly the same.

[blm]

120. Kerry DID speak about Tora Bora as Bush's failure in the debates. Media

didn't care to discuss it.

For the record, Dean spoke about Tora Bora on July 2002 Meet the Press and sided with Bush over Kerry then.

Dean would have gotten slaughtered on Tora Bora when it came up. And he would be one of the first to admit it, today.

[yurbud]

143. Kerry said many good things (sometimes buried in crap) but his demeanor

was far too polite and deferential to appeal to the average joe.

Apart from the religious right (and maybe even them too) what people like about Bush is that he always seems vaguely rude and that he is at best tolerating the presence of others.

I don't want a candidate who goes that far, but he should be unapologetic, direct, concise, and forceful in his one chance at speaking to America unfiltered and unedited.


If Kerry runs again, which I would have mixed feelings about at best, he needs to be less long-winded when answering questions, drop the DLC, Shrumian platitudes and replace them with in your face memorable phrasing that underlines the difference with the GOP, and say everything like you are throwing down a gauntlet, not suggesting a better way to make fluffy pie crusts.

Probably the singlest biggest mistake of the Shrum way is thinking you can win by being inoffensive and mouthing platitudes. That approach assumes people are listening to you. They aren't. You need to give someone a reason to listen and make it sound like you are saying somethng new and revolutionary even if it's been around since FDR.

We must give our props to the GOP on the one thing they know how to do--communicate. Even if it is the moral equivalent of putting make up on a barnyard pig and calling it a prom queen.

We can learn from the GOP, be provocative, but stay within the ethical lines and win.

It seems like the only reason we aren't doing so is the party leadership is either courting or afraid of the GOP's corporate power base.

[MellowOne]

105. Kerry's my president!

BushCo need bin Laden alive so they can conveniently use him when they need to threaten us.

[Heewack]

106. Where was this statement released?

I can't find it anywhere except that blog, and for some reason it doesn't sound too much like something Kerry would say.

[karynnj]

116. It sounds exactly like Kerry

The Tora Bora part he has said almost verbatim before. In fact, if I hadn't seen the statement and it was put up as guess who said this - my answer with no hisitation would be - Kerry.

[LittleClarkie]

125. It sounds like Kerry in "pissed" mode

Some people aren't used to when he goes from Dr. Banner to the Incredible Hulk.

[Heewack]

128. I'm refering to making the statement itself

He doesn't generally waste time commenting or releasing statements on what some boneheaded cable news show talking head had to say.

[LittleClarkie]

130. 1. He was pissed. 2. he may have seen the need to nip this shit in the bud

as we've had about enough of this "You're with us or with the terrorists" shit.

And as someone said, it appeared to be coordinated talking points. Best to shoot it down quickly. Rapid response, doncha know.

[LittleClarkie]

135. Here's another blog for you that I found:

http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=c4f13a24-a385-4395-b342-7d3d378bb0f2

[raysr]

110. How do we know this message is from OBL?

Because the CIA(WMD'S?) sez so? Peculiar timing. Just when the monkey is about to get his feet held to the fire for wiretapping and abramoff this comes out. Sound familar? Red alert! Bullshit coming!

[coldiggs]

118. What was said on hardball exactly?

[samhsarah]

122. WOO HOO!

Kick ass, Mr. President!:yourock:

[Tom Rinaldo]

126. Very nice statement by Kerry. Thank you Senator n/t

[Nikki Stone 1]

129. Nicely done, Mr. Kerry.

:)

[madmark]

131. What could have possessed tweety to compare a left of center guy

who did a movie that exposed the bs premises under which we went to war with iraq, which all turned out to be true, with OBL? At what point did he given in to being a rw talking point zombie?

[LittleClarkie]

132. Sybil just switched personalities, that's all

A snap of the fingers, and he's Right Wing Zombie. The next minute, he's Bush's Fan Boy, oggling the codpiece. Sometimes he The Church Lady, calling people Satan all over the place. And every once in a while he remembers that he used to be Tip O'Neill's staffer, and you hear echos of the Dem he was.

[zoeb]

133. If they had prevented one attack...ONE STINKING ATTACK...

THEY WOULD HAVE TROTTED THE TERRORISTS OUT IN PUBLIC TO SAY, "YEAH, LOOK AT US NOW! LOOK AT HOW WE PREVENTED ANOTHER TERROR ATTACK!" THIS ADMINISTRATION HASN'T PREVENTED ONE DAMN THING EXCEPT TELLING THE PRESS HOW MANY TIMES BUSH MET WITH ABRAMOFF.

FUCK YOU CHENEY!

[M_Demo_M]

134. I was so pissed at Matthews...

that I sent the following email to Hardball

Dear Hardball,

Apparently Mr. Matthews has forever crossed the line from Journalist to Right Wing political tool.

Where's the objective commentary in alluding to Michael More and Osama Bin Laden as like minded.
Did Michael More kill 3000 innocent Americans? Does Michael More want to destroy our democracy?
Uh, No! He has every right to express his views (read the constitution, it's in there) without being labeled
as a traitor. His right to express his views has been paid for by the blood of many soldiers throughout history.
Our President and Vice President however, cowardly fled from their obligation to fight for their country in Viet Nam!

Get OFF the air! Hardly anyone watches your sorry show anymore!
I gave up watching during the 2000 election when Mr. Matthews' constant Clinton and Gore bashing
was just too nauseating to stomach.

Mr. Matthews might as well just come out and say ...

"I love George W. Bush. I think everything he does has a 'sunny nobility' and I will always support
him and undermine his opposition."

Pathetic! Go to Fox where you belong.

[ProSense]

137. Excellent statement! Great points. n/t

[Cha]

140. The Big Difference between

Michael Moore and tweety matthews is..Michael Moore loves his country and tweety could give a shit or not..

It's all about putting that digit in the wind and seeing which way it's blowin' for tweets.

So glad to see that John Kerry is speaking up for Michael Moore, although, I don't see those particular words in Kerry's statement..I guess you had to hear the original words by bird head.

[AuntiBush]

146. Turned Off MSNBC For Good, Days Back

When Tweety spoke of Republicans like they could do no wrong, and slammed Democrats.

Facist, that was it for me. Sorry Keith.

[Voltaire99]

149. Haven't watched it (but by accident) in years!

It wouldn't kill me to watch the equivalent of a glass of warm milk, but I'm too busy being informed. :-)

As for Kerry's defense of Moore: yes, good for him. I'd written off John Kerry after his pro-corporate, pro-war campaign, but if he wants to be taken seriously all he needs do is fight. This isn't a bad start.

[tdcc]

150. What happens....

when we are hit again?

Can we FINALLY blame these Nazi wannabes? Seriously. They fucked up royally on 9/11. They only have one job to do: protect this nation. They had memos telling them attacks were coming really really soon. They did NOTHING. Didn't even bother to look into it. For that alone they should be impeached.