Philosoraptor
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:25 AM
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True or False: Our sons & daughters in Iraq are fighting for OUR Freedom? |
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It hit me yesterday watching the local news in my town, someone was giving a party for a returning female soldier who had been shot in the arm in Iraq and had just returned home.
They were having a party in her honor, and the t.v. announcer said, "She was injured while fighting for our freedom in Iraq".
The hollowness of that statement hit me hard between the eyes, and its been bouncing off the inside of my skull all night.
Are the G.I.'s in Iraq truly fighting for our freedom?
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:28 AM
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1. Sure, if your name is Getty, or Exxon or Chevron. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:28 AM
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2. I think they are being sacrificed in Iraq for GWB's ego. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:29 AM
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3. That's a question I've asked since the beginning of this |
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invasion.
At Christmas time, local TV stations will play taped messages from soldiers. They always come on and say how they are protecting our freedoms. I've never understood how that can be when they're over in Iraq to bring them Democracy (I think that's the latest lie).
I think they think they're protecting our freedoms so they can justify the lie.
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:30 AM
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4. No, they are not fighting for our freedom |
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Since the appointment of George W Bush as president and the commencement of the neverending war, we have lost freedoms. We are no longer free to talk as we wish without our government listening in on our conversations. Our purchases are known by our government.
Saddam Hussein was no threat to our freedom but George W Bush and his enablers are. If the soldiers want to fight for our freedom they should be over here in the streets fighting the neocons and their agenda.
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:32 AM
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5. Stupidity... and yet people believe it |
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:38 AM
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6. That is a very touchy subject. I think it is a question of beliefs |
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It reminds me of the other thread about beliefs, in the war on terror, terror alerts, etc. So the question is really about the reality of belief, and I think it is real to the person who believes it, although people who don't have that same belief can say it is not real.
So I guess the best answer is that it is not different from a religious belief, so it is real to the people who believe it, and maybe it is a belief that helps them emotionally in their life.
And since nobody can stop us from doing whatever we want to in Iraq or anywhere else, can the people who don't believe it is for our freedom say that not believing it helps them emotionally in their life?
The less I believe things, the luckier I think people who do are.
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:42 AM
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7. NO, fighting so the GOP can get reelected, and then take our freedoms |
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And defense contractors can rob the treasury.
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:43 AM
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No one can fight for my freedom but me.
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Sat Aug-12-06 07:48 AM
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9. The longer they are there, the less freedom here. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 08:07 AM
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10. No. They are certainly serving their country. |
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Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 08:07 AM by mcscajun
It's just a shame that what they're being asked to DO as that service isn't what serves Our Freedom.
It rings hollow every time it's said, no matter Who says it, Bush, Rush, your mayor, or any TV or radio announcer. It's a hollow, nationalistic phrase so long as no country is attacking us directly.
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Sat Aug-12-06 08:26 AM
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11. We're loosing our freedoms here, so maybe the grand plan is to |
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have all the Iraqis kill themselves and resettle with Democratic Americans.
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Sat Aug-12-06 08:28 AM
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12. Manifest Destiny, the Navajos can relate.......n/t |
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Sat Aug-12-06 08:29 AM
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13. Our military is fighting for the oil bigwigs |
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it has nothing to do with our freedom. They got roped into a trap.
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Sat Aug-12-06 08:31 AM
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14. War has been a racket for the longest time; it's not about freedom |
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Rarely is your home or your family at stake, but what is usually at stake is the business interests of a few powerful people. They lobby the government to act as their protectors, and therein lies the problem: Your kids dying for somebody else's wallet. Then you have those who benefit directly off the military action by making a profit off the construction of the machines of war, the war profiteers.
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Sat Aug-12-06 09:21 AM
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15. We are paying 50 million$ to help restore Lebanon |
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Condi said at the UN that we are going to pay 50 million dollars to help restore Lebanon.
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Sat Aug-12-06 09:27 AM
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16. In Iraq, NO. In Afghanistan, maybe. |
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But definitely not in Iraq. Hussein wasn't after us. If anything he was after Bush, which would have been a godsend if you ask me. I wonder how many lives could have been saved if Bush had never gained the power he has now? I mean, the last time Hussein killed a bunch of people was when poppy was prez, so...:shrug:
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:23 PM
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19. False. They are fighting for the freedom of large corporations to make |
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:26 PM
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20. I heard someone say that the troops in Iraq are "protecting us" |
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and I can't wrap my mind around that one either.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:33 PM
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21. I don't see how anyone can believe that. |
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And the BS that we are "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" is sickening when you really think about it. Kinda sounds like the Troops being used as bait? Our idiot in chief would never do such a thing, would he?
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:10 PM
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23. "We're" fighting them over there--another bullshit bumpersticker fart |
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We're fighting the Iraqis so the Iraqis don't fight us over here, and why are we in Iraq again? I love the way they say WE all the time, as if they, or all the rest of us here are fighting them over there when its OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS doing the fighting and dying..
..sorry, I get a little carried away sometimes.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:36 PM
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22. False they are fighting for Republican business interests |
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:21 PM
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24. I really wasn't going to answer this post. |
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Because, of course, they are not fighting for OUR freedom. Right now, they are just fighting to stay alive.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:22 PM
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25. Our Freedom To Have $2 A Gallon Gas |
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Yeah, like that worked...
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:29 PM
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26. Translation: Freedom is not Free and War is Peace. |
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:crazy:
Expect the few freedoms you might now enjoy to dwindle down to nothing if these bastards are allowed to continue for much longer. And oh yeah...that AND continuous never ending war. :grr:
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:33 PM
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As through most of our country's history, the poor have fought for the interests of the rich.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:38 PM
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Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 01:39 PM by lonestarnot
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:38 PM
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29. Fuck no they're aren't fighting for our freedom. Bullshit line is all |
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that is, but for those that have been permanently maimed or killed let them and their families hold onto something, even if it is just another lie.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:41 PM
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30. False, and most of them realize it. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:44 PM
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31. False. Though many honestly believe they are |
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Their motives are not what I question. I have a brother there now and I know he believes he's doing what he has to...though doubts are beginning to arise.
But that is often the way with war. People are TOLD one reason for killing each other...but the real reason is far different. We are there for Empire and Oil but that's never going to be the CNN announcement.
So Do the GIs GO to Iraq because they intend to fight for our freedom? Yes. ARE the GIs in Iraq actually defending freedom? No. Our leaders sent them for the most selfish, greedy, and corrupt reasons...and they lied about it. Seems simple enough to me.
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