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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:39 PM
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What do you think? My husband, the dumb ass repug in the house,
says that we will never get rid of gasoline powered cars. I said that if tomorrow the only thing you could buy was an electric car/ truck what option would you have but to buy an electric car? Then he said there was no incentive for them to do that. Which he is right. So, how do you get the car companies to switch to a complete fleet non-dependant on oil?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:42 PM
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1. Bikes
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 12:43 PM by jaysunb
pedal power, mass transit, refusal to buy new cars. Just to name a few.
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Freeusfromthechurch Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:42 PM
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2. Divorce Him
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:17 PM
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69. heehee
I second that notion.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:44 PM
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3. Not Very Nice To Call Your Husband Such Names, Especially Publicly.
Repug or not, I just find that inappropriate and in bad taste.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:46 PM
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6. Not very nice to tell people how to interact with their spouses...
especially publically. Know it all or not, I just find that inappropriate and in bad taste.

;)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 PM
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8. Sure It Is. Unless You Believe The Point Of A Message Board Is NOT To
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
offer opinion. :crazy:

Her husband deserves better than verbal abuse.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:50 PM
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16. He's not being abused......
She's talking to us not him.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:53 PM
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21. yea right
and you know this how? How would you feel after you stumbled across some website where your spouse was calling you a dumb ass?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:59 PM
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26. Holy Cow Someone Else Gets It LOL. I'd Feel Like Shit And Quite Hurt.
That is why I gave the opinion I had.

If that is how they talk to each other, however, and it is understood that it is playful and innocent, then I guess it's ok. I just still don't know if that was the case or not.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:56 PM
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61. I never understand how people can marry such dumbasses.
And yes, if you're a b*s*-supporting Republican, you're a dumbass (or evil).

I mean, it's not attractive, is it?

I could never marry the politically polar opposite. It would be a betrayal of my own conscience.

How do people make such marriages work? It bewilders me!

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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:52 PM
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19. Some couples just clown on each other that way...
my good friend and his wife for example.

Both very dry, cynical people...and very thick-skinned. Sometimes the stuff they say to each other makes you stop and say, "WOW!".

But neither one takes it as an assault...they're actually having fun with it. They love each other dearly and are very committed. They just show their love through constant ribbing.

You can't tell from a message board what kind of relationship they have. So it's presumptious to read one post and think you can decipher their relationship.

No?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:56 PM
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24. You Are Correct In That.
It just didn't come off with the innocently ribbing vibe. It sounded resentful. But you are right, it is a bit premature for me to judge their personal ways of dealing with each other. :)

I just couldn't imagine putting in a thread title that my wife is a dumb ass. I would find it completely disrespectful and hurtful towards her and in bad taste to do so. But I do recognize that others may have different relationships and can say such things with innocent playful intent. When that's the case, it is fine of course. When it's done with bitter intention, then I do find it to be verbal abuse and don't condone it. Thanks for the civil and thoughtful response. It's all good. :hi:
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:05 PM
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28. Well...I couldn't get away with calling my wife a dumbass either...
she wouldn't be irate. But she'd give me the look.

Im Irish and she's Latina...and sometimes I call her my "Sexy Mexican Maid" after the Chili Peppers song. She doesn't take it as an insult. But I'm usually all "handsy's" when I do...so she just giggles.

But to each couple their own.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #19
45. Yep -- it's impossible to understand the marriages of others.
I learned that a long time ago!
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:53 PM
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20. Seriously, you have no idea what her husband deserves.
And unless your name is REALLY "Operationmindcrime" or hers is "Pooga"
I hardly consider this to be "publicly"

Why waste good energy on such pettiness?
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:56 PM
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23. sorry but he can be a dumb ass.. and he is clearly banned from
this site.. so I get to call him a dumb ass and it won't affect the other wonders of our marriage. I really think that half the time he agrees with me, but its always interesting. We both call dibs on our son... so I suppose he will become a moderate Independant or something.

I know he registers mainly as a repug due to family generations. But as his own family says "you register as a Republican, but you vote for a Democrat". Most people in the south still feel like the gov't should stay out of your business.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:52 PM
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57. Yeah, B.S.
She didn't announce his name and telephone number. I have no clue who he is and I don't care. But I think she's allowed to express her extreme frustration if she chooses.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:12 PM
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52. Have to say I agree with Buddyblazon.
You take care of yours, I'll take care of mine.
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Freeusfromthechurch Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 PM
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7. What?
I thought only conservatives where that uptight. Her husband might be a dumb ass. Take a chill pill.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:49 PM
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15. I Don't Condone Verbal Spousal Abuse, Sorry.
Not the biggest deal to me, she could've said far worse, but I still found it to be in poor taste. Just simply expressing what came to my mind upon reading the thread. Sorry if you were too uptight to handle a simple anti comment to a simple comment. :rofl:

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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:29 PM
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34. Why don't you just grow up,
and stop being so pompous? Just a suggestion.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:35 PM
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35. I'll Refrain From Telling You Where To Stick That Suggestion.
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 01:39 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
My points are valid and there's nothing wrong with expressing them. And do you not see the hypocrisy in your accusations of pompousness? :rofl:


(And if you really want to talk about pompousness and growing up, maybe we should start with the discriminatory, offensive and unproductive sig pic of yours that seeks to call everyone's religion garbage. Are you that insecure in your own faith that you need to trash others'?)
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:54 PM
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58. I'd say that just because you've married somebody, they are not
either infallible or deserving of worship. I don't believe in "respect for the office." I believe in respect for the individual. If he's a dumbass on occasion, he's a dumbass on occasion.

Whatever.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:07 PM
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63. I agree. Pomposity seems to be th MO of this particular poster. n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:49 PM
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14. Huh?
We have no idea who the man is.......she didn't publically say his name and we have no idea who she is IRL.....so whilst it's public, his identity is a secret.

I am sure most of us here have called our spouses much worse names.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:02 PM
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46. Go easy...hasn't she suffered enough?
Man, she's married to a fucking republican
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:10 PM
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47. Best post..
:)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:39 PM
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71. You're not alone; I feel your pain
I'm in the same boat...my husband's republican too.

It gets quite frustrating sometimes and I've called him an ass before.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:47 PM
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54. What I find inappropriate and in bad taste
is for YOU to tell somebody else how to conduct their marriage. I find sappy happy couples to be PHONY LIARS who have the exact same issues as everybody else but sneer down their noses in order to hide their own problems. My husband is not a Republican, but he is a dumb ass about some things politically and there's absolutely nothing in the world wrong with saying so. He thinks I'm a ditz and a crab sometimes too, and lo and behold I am.

Your comment falls in line with "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all."
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:07 PM
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66. I agree
I've always thought of that behavior as a "trolling" tactic...

"My husband/wife doesn't understand me."

Looking for someone to offer tea, sympathy and whatever.

Ew.

And if you are married to someone so heinous that you are compelled to belittle them in public, it really only serves to make you look like an idiot for being with that person.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:45 PM
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4. Just remember if everybody had electric cars
there would have to be many more electric generating plants. Do both of yourselves and a favor and divorce him.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:46 PM
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5. Make him sleep in the car.
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Freeusfromthechurch Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:48 PM
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11. LOL
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 PM
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9. When gas reaches $20/gal, then what?
Tell your repug spouse that gasoline will never be $1 a gallon again... or $2/gallon.. or $3/gallon! Inevitably, something besides gasoline (solar? nuclear? rubber bands?) will fuel vehicles more efficiently, and the only people driving gasoline powered vehicles will be nostalgic reactionaries like him who put pride and selfishness above common sense.
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:54 PM
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42. for pete's sake
sooner or later, we will find a substitute for our petroleum addiction

it's not like we are all walking around in the 21st century bemoaning the shortage of

WHALE OIL

which was once pretty frigging important to world commerce as well

the more expensive it gets, the greater the incentive for private industry to pour tons of $$$ into developing alternatives

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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:54 PM
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43. for pete's sake
sooner or later, we will find a substitute for our petroleum addiction

it's not like we are all walking around in the 21st century bemoaning the shortage of

WHALE OIL

which was once pretty frigging important to world commerce as well

the more expensive it gets, the greater the incentive for private industry to pour tons of $$$ into developing alternatives

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 PM
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10. Doesn't it take oil to produce electricity?
Or do I have that mixed up with coal? :shrug:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:09 PM
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30. Most power plants are coal fired. I think solar powered flying cars
are just around the corner, whoops I forgot Al Gore is not in office...
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:45 PM
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36. Electricity can be produced a lot of ways: coal, oil, natural gas,
nuclear, hydro, wind, and solar are what I would call the main methods (roughly in declining order of efficiency, I think). However, a major switch to EVs would require a major increase in electricity production, and with the current system that would just shift the pollution to the power plant location.

To really benefit from EVs, I think we would need to develop much cleaner ways of burning fossil fuels, and we are going to have to increase our reliance on nuclear power...

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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:57 PM
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40. you forgot solar power... say you were parked outside your
office/ home. plug up your solar charger and refuel while at work. Cities could get a kick back. Metered solar chargers. I've thought about the whole electric refueling thing. I think it would be possible... solar power needs light... even on a cloudy day its possible to pick up energy from the sun.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 02:24 PM
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41. I think solar would help, possibly a lot,
but I doubt if personal chargers would be sufficient considering the space they would require as well as the inconsistent timing of sunlight. We would need a major breakthrough in solar panel technology, for starters...

Still, I think that we should get as much of our energy from the renewable sources as possible, and the quicker we reduce our fossil fuel dependency the better...
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:27 PM
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53. Yes! Don't knock solar power.
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 12:28 PM by shimmergal
I'm a believer since we put in a new, BIG pool and have solar panels on the roof to heat the water. Over a period of hours they can raise the water temp. from 70 degrees to 95. 'Course this is in Las Vegas, which gets lots of sunlight, but they work on overcast days too.

Don't knock biomass power, either. E-85 is already on sale at a number of gas stations in the city. The price only runs about 15 cents less than gas, but since it can be produced domestically in almost any quantity (once enough cos. get set up to produce it) the price differential will probably be more as gas prices go up. And Cheney and his oil buddies won't be able to hold foreign policy hostage to oil company profits.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:48 PM
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12. As the price of gasoline rises, he will see the light. I think. Never
Know with a rePIG because of the denial factor which is why the monkey is where he is right now.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:48 PM
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13. It was all the rage in 1912
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:06 PM
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29. from what I am able to find out, the EV-1 was a hit recently
One EV1 owner's experience: http://darelldd.com/ev/ev1.htm

and if I had the money, I'd be on the list for a Telsa. Maybe the sedan version... Supposedly, some folks offered to buy their EV-1's when the lease was up (Jay Leno offered $1 Million), but GM decided this was better:




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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:51 PM
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17. use up all the oil. then we will figure out a better way
how i see it
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:51 PM
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18. Public demand! I suspect the first environmental cars will not come
from US mfg's but from Japan. For whatever reason, US mfgs take FOREVER to recognize a switch in public opinion, and have been beaten to the market many times in recent years. When env. friendly vehicles become available in the Am market and are a big hit, THEn you'll see the US mfgs change, that's if of course they still exist!

The other thing you have to face is that the Am. public is quite strange on this subject. They really never gave up their love affair with the car! I remember, back in to 70's when there were long lines at the pumps and only certain days you could buy gas, the Honda civic and small Toyota sales SOARED! EVERYONE wanted a car that was cheap to drive! But then, 30 years later, Americans fell in love with the SUV! NOW they hate them again.

I think it's impossible to guess what might happen in 5-10 years.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:54 PM
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22. Hmmm. Lysistrata had an idea for women on getting men to
do things... or do I misremember?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:57 PM
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25. Tell him that as long as
people think like him that there will never be electric cars or any alternative to gas powered cars. That alternative fuels are a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE since ARMY Fleets run on GAS!!!
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:04 PM
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27. he wants another muscle car... like I want to waste money on
some stupid boy toy. I finally convinced him to get rid of it for a family car. His old mustang had no cadiladic converters and flow master pipes, the base on the car would blow you into the next state. I hated that thing. it got like 9mi/ gal. but now he misses the power, the vroom. I told him about the new electric car... (not that we could afford 100,000.00 car) but he said he'd miss the noise of the engine. Can we develop a voom noise to go with the newer cars?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:09 PM
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31. There's nice engine sounds CD's
From Formula One cars to Ferrari engines to Motorcycles. I am series!!11!! He can play the CD in the electric car. :rofl:
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:10 PM
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32. The Accord hybrid seems like a perfect family car, fuel economy
most of the time, and 264 HP for when you need power and vroom.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:10 PM
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33. You made him get rid of a CLASSIC mustang?
AND HE LET YOU?

OH. MY. GOD.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:53 PM
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38. no if it was a classic, I would not have parted with it and it would
remain under a tarp most of the time.. no it was a 2002... and he used like a race car.. he got the tickets to prove it too. No, with the family came a family car. but who knows. if he could have kept the car 25yrs it would be a classic.. but knowing him he'd wrap it around a tree before then. Oh, well boys and their toys. I can't take all the southern charm out of my redneck man. But then again he puts up with my Yankee ass.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:48 PM
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49. Make him a VROOM CD...
It's less obnoxious...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:50 PM
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37. If there is no gas or the price reaches $49.99 a gallon, he will switch
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:53 PM
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39. Interesting
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 01:53 PM by Jara sang
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:58 PM
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44. Everybody seems to be forgetting about wave power....
the wave comes in...enters a cylindrical housing for a large piston...piston moves up and down...BING...electricity.

I saw a show on Discovery a few years back. I may be wrong about the mechanics (as I'm trying to go from memory) but I remember them saying it was quite efficient.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:14 PM
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48. Show him the Tesla Roadster...
and then tell him if we still had a "Clinton Economy" he could afford one.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:58 PM
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50. Republicans are very closed minded, aren't they?
Democrats generally embrace new things - 'pukes "stay the course." Car makers will change if we don't buy their current products. Don't trade the heap in until absolutely necessary. And it can't hurt for big oil to get a whiff of the money to be made in alternative fuels.
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NewSpectrum Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:05 PM
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51. Don't Give Up On Your Husband Completely.......
eventually, although it will probably take at least 20 years, the Republican party may actually stand for something worthwhile (if it still exists).
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:04 PM
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55. It's not too hard.
Indicate to the various companies that going electric now will put them on top in the future. Offer government subsidies.

If that doesn't work, arrange for a few "tragic accidents" among car company CEOs until one sees the (electric) light.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:08 PM
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56. He just made a great argument againt corporate elephantitis
In fact, it's the same one I often make.

Modern capitialism negates all the benefits of a free market. Large corporations don't compete -- they buy out the competition. They don't have to provide a good product or good service because there are few places to go if the customer is dissatisfied.

The world will be a better place without them.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:22 PM
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59. I couldn't live in the same house
with a republican, not these days.
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Liberal Lassie Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:22 PM
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64. it took me 3 years to convert mine to a dem and he now despises Bush
but somewhere along the way I started despising HIM, the
spouse, that is.  Does anyone know where a legitament website
has names and email addresses for lonley soldiers?  I just
filed for divorce and 
need someone to talk to.  I'm serious, guys.  There has to be
at least one guy out there who is as 
lonely as I am.  
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:24 PM
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60. Love transcends...if you love him...stay in love....cool stuff this love..
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:05 PM
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62. The car companies are controlled by the oil companies
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:03 PM
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65. Do you remember GEO, a sub-brand of GM. Do you know anyone who bought one?
The consumers are doing this one all on their own. In fact given dismal sales of GM and Ford I would say that these companies would rather have low prices. A collusive agreement would be very difficult to maintain as what benefits one party hurts the other.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:15 PM
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67. There is a significant incentive to switch to a lower cost
"fuel" alternative for producers. This is part of the reason why Toyota has been increasing their market share lately. Contrary to the beliefs of many alternative technologies are not at a level where they can replace conventional technology yet. If gas prices stay at what they are for the next four or five years we will start to see some significant improvements, if only in fuel economy.

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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:16 PM
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68. Checking it now.
Let's see... dumbass = republican .... republican = dumbass.

Yup. Went around the front and the back. No matter how you look at it, he's a dumbass.
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Brian Stevens Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:17 PM
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70. Put him out of his misery
Shoot him like a broken horse.
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