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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:02 AM
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ken mehlman on meet the press
on Iraq: "We are no longer staying the course. The choice is no longer between staying the course and cutting and running. Now it is between adapting to win and cut and run. We are adapting to win."

on terra: As long as there ar plots like this one the American people will choose Republicans. (I forget the exact words).

adapt to win. the new slogan. they don't even try to disguise it as a thought.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:09 AM
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1. They adapt all the time, they are natural chamaleons
You can't run a country on PR, and that is what they do.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:49 AM
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11. Exactly -- all they "adapt" is their script!!
There is no end in sight to the mess in Iraq, as long as they're in charge. "Adapt" my ass.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:55 AM
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14. well, now they admit mistakes but want to stay
saying we can't lose, but we are losing, it's like somebody getting their car taken back by
the dealer, as it's being towed; they're shouting but it's MY car.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:09 AM
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2. Does this guy ever tire of tryin' for national choir boy?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:17 AM
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3. In and of itself, the phrase is meaningless.
But, my bet is that the media will accept it and sell it without demanding any specifics.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:22 AM
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4. What a disaster he was! (hahahahaha)
Mehlman looked and acted terrified, he couldn't answer any of the questions except with canned jargon, and he seemed genuinely sandbagged by the innocuous questioin "Will you endorse Joe Lieberman?" (Could he really have NOT prepared for or anticipated that question?)

I was reminded of Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House hysterically shreiking, "Don't panic! All is well!"



(Google images is a treasure)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:43 AM
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7. Tweety already asked him that question repeatedly last week.
He wouldn't answer it then either but you would think he would have come up with a better way to spin his answer - that is his expertise - spinning bullshit.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:51 AM
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12. It's an enormous trap for the GOP
especially because it seems on the surface like such an innocuous question, of the sort that ought to be easily answered "Yes" or "No". And dodging the question, as Mehlman is doing, is possibly worse than either "Yes" or "No."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:52 AM
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13. It honestly makes me wonder whether they're going to replace Schlesinger
somehow... :shrug:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:55 AM
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15. According to TPM, they probably will....
But it's late in the game to do that, and after running a child molester in 2000 and a degenerate gambler (and an inept degenerate gambler at that!), a lot of voters will be thinking "I wonder what's wrong with this guy."
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:25 AM
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5. I watched Dean on MTP but switched to watch Lamont on FOX,
so I didn't see Mehlman...INTENTIONALLY!!!! I'm not sure which one aggrivates me more, Ken or Shrub?

Reading your post, I can say Ken is only doing his job. I think thye know their playbook isn't a winning one anymore, and now they're changing their story. I still don't think it will work.

Howard did a very good job on MTP and I'm glad I had a chance to watch.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:40 AM
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6. Dean did do a great job....
especially contrasted with Mehlman, who seemed on the verge of panic....
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:44 AM
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8. They would have to adapt to win because so far they are LOSERS
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:46 AM
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9. Doesn't this signify a change in the U.S. "steely resolve"?
I thought "staying the course" was so great because it showed our "firm resolve". "Adapting to win" would imply our "resolve" is not so firm after all, wouldn't it, if by "adapting" we are changing, becoming flexible to fit the situation? "Adapting to win" - let me guess the orifice of origin for this one...
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:48 AM
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10. I know what you mean about these unthinking slogans.
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 11:48 AM by Marr
The modern conservative movement is rooted so deeply in big money propaganda that many of it's leading voices simply don't think beyond those terms. They're not beauracrats or policy wonks; they're marketers. They don't think beyond the slogan, and they don't even realize how stupid it makes them look.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:58 AM
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16. hmm... isn't 'adapting' just another word for 'flipflopping'?
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