Bush Refuses to Back GOP Candidate in Connecticut

[kpete]

August 14, 2006
Bush Refuses to Back GOP Candidate

White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said this morning that President Bush will not endorse Connecticut U.S. Senate candidate Alan Schlesinger (R) over Sen. Joe Lieberman even though he's the Republican nominee.

Earlier: RNC chief Ken Mehlman also refused to endorse Schlesinger.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/08/14/bush_refuses_to_back_gop_candidate.html

[Avalux]

1. That's cause Lieberman's gonna get GOP $$$

They're backing him, make no mistake about it.

[zanne]

9. They've got a deal, alright.

The only reason I can see for a Republican president to embrace an Independent candidate is that when he's elected to office, he'll change his party affiliation to Republican. Why else would they be willing to put their majority status in jeopardy?

[The Backlash Cometh]

22. What do we do?

Lying is a national passtime. Why should we be surprised that Lieberman was always Bush's tool? We know who the pretenders are. It's too painfully obvious.

[barb162]

66. I can't figure out how that will happen

because how will the GOP give money to a DEMOCRATIC SENATOR. And he's a Dem until his term is over. There has to be a restriction written somewhere in their bylaws that they can't do that, just as I assume there's something similar written in the Democratic party's bylaws about how they give out money for campaigns.

[theanarch]

83. the same way Santorum's backers funneled $100K to...

...Carl Romenelli (said to be a Green, although no Green i've spoken to claims him as one of our own)...through individual contributions, up to the maximum limit. All Rove has to do is put the word out through the GOP fundraising/finance operation that "good" Republicans should make a donation to Joe, and i'm serenely confident most will...they know that, on the big, signature issues (Iraq, tax cuts, the bankruptcy bill, the telecommunications deregulation, etc), Joe is Junior's monkey-boy. The DNC/DSCC isn't about to question where Joe's (or any other candidate's) money comes from, as long as it keeps rolling in; and it is only the individual candidate's sense of shame or hypocricy that would compell them to switch parties...Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Co.) and (IIRC) John Breaux (La) did; but Zell-on-Earth Miller didn't.

[leveymg]

2. That's it - Joe's off his committees. He's a spoiler for the GOP.

Are you listening Mr. Senate Minority Leader from Nevada?

[I_Make_Mistakes]

3. Yes, and boy the reporters tried to get him to explain that position.

I have a question, doesn't that reinforce our position that Joe is considered to be more in line with the Republicans? Would that align the Democratic voters with Lamont?

[Supersedeas]

12. losers supporting the man they labeled Loserman

[Raine]

53. Yeah...

you can't get much more PATHETIC than that! x(

[billyskank]

100. That's what I was thinking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1906235&mesg_id=1911191

[erknm]

121. He is more in line on issues important to the republican party

but not all issues. They are ignoring that he favors abortion rights, supports the welfare state, and supports a repeal of most of W's tax cuts.

They are concerned about his position on the Iraq war, with which they agree.

For most issues beside the Iraq war, Lieberman is consistently a democrat and he will get a good bit of support. Also, with the republicans supporting him, he will get alot of republican support.

As for the money, I do not think the party can actually give him money, but they will certainly find ways to funnel money to him.



FH

[Protagoras]

4. Think the more the RNC Backs Joe

the more dems will get off the fence in CT and support Lamont. Joe's defeat is proof that when you push people too far you can't actually just BUY their votes...and that terrifies the establishment.

[Fridays Child]

5. I hope Schlesinger isn't entertaining any silly notions about...

...the integrity of his party.

[corkhead]

45. He was repuke cannon fodder and probably wouldn't know what to do

if he won anyway.

[Nay]

49. If Sghlesinger is elected, I hope he remembers just who treated

him like a red-headed stepchild. And it wasn't the Democrats.

[AndyA]

6. I think the Dems need to emphatically state that they believe Joe

Lieberman will change his party affiliation to Republican if he's elected. After all, they're supporting him by not supporting Schlesinger, it's likely they are advising him and offering him financial assistance. He will have to pay them back, and he will do so by flipping the seat in Connecticut to Republican.

This word needs to be spread far and wide, as this will be a strong incentive for Dems to not vote for Lieberman, as if they needed anything else at this point.

[Perky]

35. EVEN BETTER

Joe needs to be asked if offered Dubya's endorsement, would he renounce it?

Will he steadfastly refuse any GOP overtures? Would he put tis whole issue to rest?

[KnaveRupe]

107. Or, my pet theory:

Joementum wins his seat in the general, then vacates it to take the position of SecDef. The vacant seat is then filled by the Republican governor with... wait for it.... a Republican.

Then Joe can STILL be paraded around as the pet Democrat - the Voice of Bipartisanship and evidence that the Republicans are the party of unity and camaraderie, whilst the Democrats are bomb-throwing moonbats.

[RaleighNCDUer]

110. Damn.

Is Rove holding seminars now? And how much did you pay? And how did you get through their screening? That is almost Rovian. All it lacks is that certain...meanness that is the hallmark of truely Rovian treachery.

[FuzzyDicePHL]

7. No big surprise here

Bush likes Lieberman's tongue right where it is: squarely on Bush's chocolate starfish.

[bluedog]

8. I think Democrats will vote for Lamont.....

when they see that Joe Blow acted like a spoiled brat when he lost..and is going Indy.......they would rather stick with the party instead of letting a Republican win.

Many voters do not like their candidates changing parties.........like when they get elected they switch..........

Joe blow lost.........fair and square............if he was nervous about this campaign he should have switched parties before the vote............there is no replay of what the voters wanted...

he speaks about Democracy in Iraq and them voting for their leaders.....well.....he is showing a piss poor example.

[racaulk]

10. I would be pissed off if I were Schlesinger!

As the Repuke nominee, you would think we would be able to count on the GOP's support for his Senatorial campaign! Wrong! This just furthers in my mind the belief that Lieberman was in cahoots with the Repukes all along, and he still is. Hell, let them eat their own! It only makes us stronger!

The only question I have now is which Repuke Senatorial nominee is being screwed over more by the GOP? Schlesinger or Harris?

[knitter4democracy]

32. I'd be pissed if I were Republican, too.

Think of all the grassroots volunteers that just got slapped in the face. That's nasty. Just nasty.

[Imagevision]

37. How many Repugs don't want Bush's endorsement or showing up to

show his support in fear Bush may throw them a kiss as well!

[knitter4democracy]

38. True, but a lot of grassroots people still love him.

This has to hurt. I mean, the sitting president, the head of your party, is backing an independent Dem who ran two elections ago as the Dem VP challenger? That's just bad.

[Cronus Protagonist]

58. This is ALL PART OF THE PLAN

Bush and Ken don't back him, ergo he's the underdog candidate and is less of a Republican than Lieberman but more electable than the "DemocRAT" candidate.

Expect to see more of this stuff as we get closer to the elections. In some states, Conn being one of them, the repub candidate can't get elected on Bush's coat tails so he has to be distanced to stand a chance of winning. With Holy Joe being kicked out, it's clear that another Bush-lite candidate can't win either, so they're trying to position the Repub as one who's not being "kissed by Bush".

Of course, I made all this up, but it makes sense to me.

:evilgrin:




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[Imagevision]

90. Bushco needs Joe to win to validate Iraq's stay the course plan

Bush/Cheney power will be lost in November elections with voters going along with anti-war sentiment. That's why Bush wanted Brit's to announce terror plot before lieberman/Lamont election hoping it would give Joe a boost.

[RaleighNCDUer]

112. I think Schlesinger.

After all, they flat out told Harris not to run, and that they would not support her. Schlesinger, OTOH, probably had every confidence before last week that he had the support of the Repub establishment. All the time, engergy and money he's invested in his campaign, gone for naught.

It breaks my heart.

:evilgrin:

[racaulk]

115. Yeah, I think you're right.

Schlesinger is getting a raw deal from the GOP. At least he thought he had their support--Harris never had it to begin with.

Poor guy...

Heh heh heh...

:evilgrin:

[skipos]

11. Did all these republicans support Lieberman in 2000?

Or are they just supporting him because of one issue: Iraq? Don't they bitch about how Lamont beat Lieberman because of "one issue" (even we know that is a bunch of BS)?

[fooj]

25. The Repubs have been supporting Joe all along.

He's a mole. I can't believe that it took us this long to figure it out.

[DeepModem Mom]

13. K&R

[Beelzebud]

14. Make no mistake, they ARE supporting the (R).

His title just happens to be Sen. Joe Lieberman (D).

As Colbert said last week: "My favorite Republican, Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman"

[opihimoimoi]

15. Joe is a PUB. He is supported by Rove Cheney and Bush

He is not an Indy, he is a true Republican.

What a TRAITOR....and a Liar/Deciever

[Hubert Flottz]

116. Bush ain't a republican...

He's a Nazi!

[Arugula Latte]

16. Boy, all those people who said that Lieberman wasn't a repuke

were WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Here's your proof, Lieberman apologists.

[smoogatz]

30. They've known all along.

The DLC's been playing catcher to Bushco since 2000--without KY, or the courtesy of a reach-around. Hey, whatever it takes to keep the corporate money-trough full, right guys?

[drm604]

17. I'm trying to figure this out. What are they thinking?

By supporting Lieberman over Schlesinger aren't they splitting the Conservative vote? They seem to be creating their own spoiler! :crazy:
What am I missing?
Does Joe have something on someone?

[smoogatz]

26. Schlesinger is a weak candidate, mired in scandal.

Some gambling thing, I don't know/care about the details. No way he can win. Rimjob Joe could win, conceivably--he and Lamont are in a statistical tie, last I heard. But Rimjob just fired his whole organization, and his main sources of funds (the DSCC and DNC) just disappeared--so he needs help, big time. He's now running against a well-funded, popular progressive with pretty decent name-recognition. Who's he going to turn to? The Godfather--aka Karl Rove--is his only hope. It's an absolutely Faustian bargain, that only a totally unprincipled and thoroughly narcissistic asshole would even consider. But that's Rimjob in a nutshell.

On edit: Joe is also getting huge pots of money from AIPAC, and other pro-Israel sources. Of course.

[KittyWampus]

40. Lamont is NOT Progressive. He is a moderate.

[smoogatz]

43. I guess it's all relative.

Compared to who, is the question.

[TheCowsCameHome]

87. In that case he fits the GOP mold just fine.

[ClintonTyree]

68. Yes, Joe does have something on someone.

He has his lips planted squarely on Bush's ass and it would take a team of surgeons hours to surgically remove them. Turncoat Joe..........what a vile, despicable, rat-bastard! :grr:

[Higans]

72. Your missing the fact that it is all a show and if they want Joe to win,

They will just Diebold him there.

[RaleighNCDUer]

113. Not at all. To continue getting away with Diebolding candidates

they have to create SOME plausible excuse for the win -- this time, it's "conservative Dems, repubs and independents backing a popular 3-term senator who was kicked out of his own party". If the repubs backed their own candidate it would make that scenario less likely, so they throw Schlesinger to the wolves and pretend that they are staying clear of the fray, letting the "people decide". That'll be the day.

[WA98296]

18. Becuase LIEberman IS the GOP candidate. Has been for this administration.

[Acadia Blue]

19. Supporting Lieberman makes him official GOP candidate.

[Clovis Sangrail]

51. Lieberman is NOT Bush's candidate

It looks to me the plan is to support unofficially (and financially without specifically stating it) Lieberman in order to split the democratic vote thereby giving the republican candidate a better chance at winning.

I just hope that tangible support from the RNC and Bush can be tracked back fast enough to be used to dissuade democrats from voting for him; if that happens it will split the republican vote... which is fine by me :)

[barb162]

73. Who is Bush"s candidate then

[thereismore]

20. Schlesinger needs to go indie if he loses GOP support! nt

[Cha]

21. I would think that would be a

HUGE SELLING POINT for Lamont! The chimphouse backs lieberman to the point of not endorsing the gop candidate..they like their MOLE, dammit!

Good, so glad they're backing liarman..now the fucking mole is exposing his saggy face for all the world to see.

[Hubert Flottz]

27. A true Repub is smart enough to know that if Bush campaigns

for them they will lose.

Joe is even too stupid to be a republican. That's REALLY stupid. The man is a total rat!

[VolcanoJen]

23. Tony Snow is the biggest asshat... read this exchange

This part just blows my mind.

TPM

Q: Wait a minute. I realize he supports democracy, but I'm wondering, does he actually support his own party's candidate?

MR. SNOW: I know that's not news --

Q: Why aren't you committing -- why wouldn't the President commit support for the Republican candidate in that --

MR. SNOW: I don't know. Why do you ask? Is there something about the candidate that I should know about that would lead to judgments? (ed. WTF WTF WTF WTF!??! Why do you ask? Is he being serious?)

Q: I'm just asking you --

MR. SNOW: No, that's just a --

Q: -- it seems like a very natural thing, why wouldn't he support a member of his own party? Is it because he's well behind in the polls? Is it because the President likes Joe Lieberman? What's -- why not?

MR. SNOW: There may be -- there are a whole host of reasons the President -- I'm just not going to play. (ed. Since when is asking the Press Secretary if the President will support his own party's nominee a "game"?)

Q: It's not really a game --

MR. SNOW: It's not a game. It's not a game, but I'll -- okay, I'll tell you what. I'll refer you to the political office to give you the full judgments on that. I think you know the situation in Connecticut.

[Blue-Jay]

28. "I think you know the situation in Connecticut."

Yes, Tony. We do. Everyone does, and the GOP's implicit support of Joe Lieberman will cost him the election. Well done.

[bridgit]

31. ASSHOLES THE LOT OF THEM!!! it was Bush himself that said...

while introducing Phony Snow: "It's my job to make decisions. And it's the job of the press secretary to explain those decisions to the public..."

liars, thieves, usurpers, destroyers of civility & democracy each & every one of them to the last :thumbsdown:

[Supersedeas]

24. WILL the Corp Screaming Faces make light of fact that the Party is not

supporting the candidate who won the Pubby Primary...in fairness, the way they have made hay about the Dems being divided over Lieberman.

Probably not...no about a ironic truth about the Pubbies is distributed to the 'Merican public.

[BlueEyedSon]

29. The party is (N) for Neocon. nt

[Johonny]

33. Wow it all becomes clear

why Joementum rolled over in his debate with Cheney. The guy was a ringer from the start.

[colorado_ufo]

117. I have wondered who pushed Gore into choosing him as running mate.

How long has this Lieberman betrayal gone on? What would Gore's campaign have been like with a different VP candidate?

[Imagevision]

34. Lieberman is another Zel Miller, with Cheney,Bush endorsements

Bush won't support a republican, that's rich, what does this clearly indicate...

[Perky]

36. oh cmon

I support Ned, but that is over the top.Joe is flat out wrong on Iraq and he is paying the price. But to say he is a Zell Miller type is also just flat out wrong.

[Marr]

62. Yeah, at least Zell Miller admits he prefers Republicans.

Lieberman is still trying to claim he's a Democrat, while using GOP talking point and coordinating his rhetoric with Dick Cheney.

What did Ken Mehlman say the other day on Meet the Press...? Something like, 'I like (Lieberman). I disagree with him on most things, agree with him on some things'. He "disagrees" on the bullshit wedge issues they always agree to disagree on. The meaningless crap. When it comes to things that matter, like corporate giveaways and war profiteering, they're right on the same page.

[Laurab]

92. It's not really over the top I don't think

not anymore. Joe HAS to pretend to be leaning toward the democratic party to get elected in CT. He can't come right out and say "I'm switching to the republican party", because he wouldn't get elected. But he got a call from Rove after the primary. He's spouting republican talking points. * isn't supporting the republican candidate.

Joe is blindly following this sad excuse for a pResident - it's not just Iraq. I know his voting record used to be fairly decent, but he is WAY too involved with this administration to be trusted. I think a Zell Miller comparison is actually fair. A true democratic candidate would accept that he lost, and back the winner. Joe isn't doing that - he's making it far more difficult for a dem to get elected. Actually, just a call from Rove would be enough for me to know something doesn't smell right here...

[rzemanfl]

64. Joe could never be a Zell Miller, his weak chin could never

suport all that foam coming from his mouth.

[Jara sang]

39. The week-end tryst of death?

The abusive stalker of death?

[Jack Rabbit]

41. Lieberman is the de facto GOP candidate in Connecticut

And why not? He supports Bush to the hilt on his failed imperialist war in Iraq, supports the Patriot Act and is willing to work with the junta on privatizing Social Security.

The only thing a Lieberman victory offers us that it doesn't offer the Bush regime is that Lieberman will vote with the Democrats on the continuing resolution in January. Or so he says.

[connecticut yankee]

54. Really?

He's voted for everything Bush wants in the past.

[K8-EEE]

42. K&R!! A Quagmire For GWB & Holy Joe!

If GWB endorses Joe, his Joe-mentum with 99.9% of voting Dems & Indies will come to such a grinding halt he will get a whiplash!

I say PUSH PUSH PUSH on GWB to say WHO he is endorsing; if he doesn't endorse the GOP IT'S BECAUSE HE WANTS HIS POODLE BACK. They shoul just say that over and over in Lamont's campaign....BUSH'S....FAVORITE...DEM!!

[WI_DEM]

44. It's clear what they are doing

Bush is banking on a Lieberman victory and then with the GOP backing him and Democratic lawmakers backing Lamont they will go to Lieberman and say "look we backed you, now you back us when it comes to organizing the Senate" and vote for a GOP Senator as Majority Leader. Especially if the Senate is closely divided.

[lebkuchen]

46. Another "kiss of death" Bush bestows on Lieberman's big mouth

[Tracer]

47. I had to laugh ...

... at what Mark Shields said last Friday on the NewsHour regarding the GOP's selection of a candidate in Connecticut:

"They had to find someone who wasn't under indictment and who was sober."

[orleans]

48. that's hysterical, really. they are such assholes! n/t

[tanyev]

50. GOPUSA - Why I Would Vote For Joe Liebermann

Today's top feature:

Why I Would Vote For Joe Lieberman
By Doug Patton
August 14, 2006

I have often said that I fully embody Winston Churchill's adage that any twenty-year-old who is not a liberal has no heart, while any forty-year-old who is not a conservative has no brain. Having come to my senses long before I turned forty (and having passed that milestone some time ago), it has been a long time since I voted for a Democrat - for anything. That said, if I lived in the state of Connecticut, I would vote to return Joe Lieberman to the United States Senate.

Of course, Lieberman can no longer be called a Democrat. After carrying the water for the liberal cause in the Connecticut State Legislature, eighteen years in the U.S. Senate and as the party's 2000 vice presidential nominee, Lieberman has been rejected by a slim majority of the Democrat voters in his home state. Consequently, he will be running for his senate seat as an independent.

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dpatton/2006/dp_08141.shtml

[TechBear_Seattle]

52. So * would rather have Lieberman than one of his own?

More and more, I'm thinking that the voters of Connecticut made the right choice.

[bliss_eternal]

76. You are correct...

Connecticut made the right choice. Lieberman is a wolf in sheep's clothing. An endorsement from * is basically saying he considers Lieberman "one of his own." How sad is that?

Good riddance to him... :puke: We don't need Dems like him, and he's far from progressive when he's got his lips firmly fixed to *'s ass cheeks.

[Raine]

55. They're pathetic fools

cause *IF* Lieberman wins he will still have that "D" next to his name and that could help put the Democrats in the majority.

[kskiska]

56. Look for Lieberman to be the keynote speaker

at the RNC convention in 2008. He'll out-Zell Zell on how "I didn't leave the 'Democrat' party - the party left me!!!" Poor Joe, the victim!

[mikelgb]

57. It it now clear that...

Joe Lieberman is no the de-facto Republican Nominee for Senate in CT.

After both the RNC and the Whitehouse refuse to endorse the party's nominee

[Raydawg1234]

59. I saw a Lieberman tv comercial today.......

It had Lieberman talking, with his head and shoulders taking up the whole screen. Made me want to :puke:.

I guess they thought the bigger Lieberman appeared, the stronger he would seam. Those asshats, they think by making Lieberman look big on tv people will think he's strong on terror.

[Tansy_Gold]

60. I wonder what Al Gore thinks of all this.

I've done my fair share of criticizing Gore for the way he didn't fight hard enough in 2000, and I've done my fair share of apologizing for him, too, because I honestly believe he was blindsided by the evil booooshies. And I've said more than once that he should have been out there more often and made more noise afterward.

But he was never an asshole, and damn it, Joe Lieberman was, after all, the Democratic Party's vice-presidential candidate. I don't care if he was the DLC/Clintons' choice, foisted on an unwilling Gore or not. Joe treated the party and Al Gore like shit once when he stayed on the ballot for the Senate in 2000, and now again by this latest whole insanity.

I think -- and this is just Tansy' weird-ass imagination talking here -- I think that if Al Gore came out and publicly condemned Joe Lieberman's actions, a whole lot of people would take notice. And I'm not sure Al is the kind to do that. I sometimes think he's kinda like Jimmy Carter, too noble to sink to that level. But the Democratic Party has an opportunity right now, in the face of all the crap that's going on, to generate a real leader. I don't see anyone doing it, and I can't think of anyone who could do it more effectively than Al Gore. Furthermore, I think if he did it, he'd almost have to re-enter the race himself and would probably take the nomination hands down. Obviously, we've got two years to the primaries, convention, nomination, campaign, and election, so I'm just talking as things stand now.

But even so, Lieberman has completely disgraced himself in my eyes now. Completely and utterly and pretty much irredeemably. He's worse than screamin' Zell Miller. At least with Zell you knew he was there all the time, knew he was an old school Dixiecrat. Lieberman is the worst kind of "It's all about ME."

May Joe the loser go broke financing his own campaign, lose ignobly, be converted to Zen Buddhism, and spend the rest of his life contemplating the sound of one hand clapping. . . . . .


Tansy Gold, who does not deny that sometimes she can be mean, nasty, and pettily vindictive.

[Botany]

61. Call Senator Reid's office

Joe L should not stay on committees or attend any dem caucuses.

Washington
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: [phone] / Fax: [phone]

BTW Rove called Joe and offered to help, "The boss said to call and ask
if you need anything."

[rzemanfl]

63. First * gave him the kiss of death, now he gives him the kiss of

death with a hickey.

[LuckyLib]

65. It's part of Karl's "confusion policy." Ads that never mention

"Republican" or the Chimp, keep the sheeple from linking R candidates with Bush's deadly spiral spin.

[barb162]

67. This will be an extremely interesting campaign.

Really, really interesting

[TransitJohn]

71. If by interesting you mean

even more fucked up and cynical and orwellian that the last 3 cycles, than yeah, gotta go with interesting. :hi:

[barb162]

74. Actually I wonder how Lieberman will get financing

and things like that. I think the race will be very close if Lieberman gets financing. Typically independents don't get really good financing when you look at races over the last 50 or so years.

[TransitJohn]

75. From the GOP

they're bankrolling him.....and god forbid he win....he'll step in a zell-like lockstep

[RaleighNCDUer]

114. Between the GOP and AIPAC I suspect he has no serious

money issues. And, of course, even as an independent he'd take his corporate sponsors with him - big pharma, insurance, etc.

[Joey Liberal]

69. LieberBush is a REPUBLICAN

They can have his sorry ass..........

[mwooldri]

81. Exactly. Joe Lieberman (R), Senator for CT.

Hopefully for not much longer though. Even though he doesn't follow any party whip.

Though I think a three line whip is too good for Lieberman, no I'm not getting kinky, I'm getting UK politicky.

Mark.

[barb162]

70. I wonder why he doesn't drop out . His OWN party doesn't

support him? How embarassing can youget? Last I read in a poll (last week) he would get 6% of the votes. Seems like he likes punishment

[MzNov]

93. LoserMan still needs his Senate paycheck until he officially

declares that he has changed to Republican and will be running against Lamont in November. Yeah, that'll work. Then the scum suckers will try to steal the election in CT, but IT WON'T WORK THIS TIME you low life bottom dwellers!! Your gig is up! You are so over!

:mad:

[TechBear_Seattle]

95. Oh, THERE is a scarey thought!

Lieberman becomes the Repug candidate for his own seat. I wonder how well that would go over with the voters?

[iamthebandfanman]

77. lol duh

of course he wont, itd just add to the massive beating shes gonna get by two other people.

but honestly, i think this is a stunt to make us believe he isnt because he secretly wants joe to win...which i kinda doubt... unless its some sorta elite people backhanding going on. in which case we should be suspicious of alot of people in our party ... lol

[ursula law]

78. rethug donations

i bet he is hauling in the money from individual rethug donations. he beter disclose how much of his money came from democrats and how much from the repukes. i would rather have a republikkklan win than him... b/c the rethugs will use him like a posterchild as they did w/ that old nutbag zell miller

[KamaAina]

79. Translation: Bush** is a disloyal repuke!

Shouldn't they throw him out of the party or something?

[tbyg52]

80. I *told* ya Joe was a Repug! n/t

[markam]

82. Read Ruth Ann Dailey's column

In the Pittsburgh Post Gazette http://postgazette.com/pg/06226/713379-152.stm. She is sort of an Ann Coulter lite and she thinks that the Repub candidate should just drop out.

The last line of the column is the weirdest. "The unfortunate fate of a good liberal in the Connecticut primary made that perfectly clear. " A good liberal? Sounds like something a good ole boy would have said back in the 50's. He is a good ni**er, he never talks back or gets uppity. Of course, that sounds just like Joe. He is the repubs good ni**er.

[VOX]

84. And Cheney's been talking smack about Dems "abandoning" Joe!!!!

Who is he kidding???? :grr:

[billyskank]

102. Oh, that's long been the cry of the neoconservative

"I never left the Democrats/Liberals/Whoever! The Democrats/Liberals/Whoever left me!"

[Canuckistanian]

85. Alan Schlesinger... hmmmm...

I'd better remeber that name. I don't think I'll be hearing much about it in the future.

Sort of like a reverse memory hole...

[Ken Burch]

104. I think it will turn up as answer in

"Trivial Pursuit: The Zeroes"(or whatever it is they'll eventually call this decade).

[TheCowsCameHome]

86. My, my. Still eating their own, aren't they? What a bunch of scum.

But as long as they devour each other I love it.

[neuvocat]

88. That almost makes him a contender.

I mean, Bush's endorsement is a kiss of death to a campaign these days.

Of course that would do a lot of damage to Lieberman if he's actually getting help from Bush.

[Borgnine]

89. No wonder he rolled over so fast in 2000.

I love Al Gore to an unhealthy degree, but Jesus crapping Christ did his team ever stumble on their running mate.

[tavalon]

91. Speaking of "The Kiss"

This is the kiss of death for Lieberman.

[54anickel]

94. But what about Jack Orchulli? The CT repubs don't want him anymore?

That didn't last long...
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/08/a-republican-headache-for-lieberman.html

No one is happier about Alan Schlesinger, the hapless Republican candidate in the three-way race for Joe Lieberman's seat in Connecticut, than Joe Lieberman.

The incumbent senator, after all, is counting on the support of Republicans as well as independents and moderate Democrats to beat Ned Lamont in the general election. And having credible Republican in the race -- which Schlesinger, forgive us for saying, is not -- could siphon a serious number of votes from Lieberman's "independent Democrat" candidacy.

So... remember Jack Orchulli?

He's the well-connected multi-millionaire and former partner of the fashion designer Michael Kors who ran and lost against Chris Dodd in the 2004 Senate race. Orchulli did manage to draw a third of the vote in that Senate campaign two years ago -- a handy number to keep in mind in a three-way race-- and has the ability to raise a lot of money very quickly.

Orchulli told us late yesterday that he's already been approached by state Republicans about replacing the hapless Alan Schlesinger as the G.O.P. nominee in the Connecticut Senate Race -- and that he'd "make himself available" to do it.

more...

[Jesterstear]

96. Why do you people think Joe will change parties?

He has to stay a Democrat if he wants to keep his seat. If he actually changes his party affiliation, instead of splintering the Democratic vote, he'll just outright lose it. The Repubs already know he's their bitch on the important matters, who cares if he votes as a Dem or Repub?

What needs to be done is that the Democratic party needs to grow a spine (you know, that thing they've been missing for years, the absence of which keeps costing them elections), and tell Lieberman that he either supports Lamont, or they're throwing him out of the party.

[Zambero]

97. Hoe low can Joe go?

First he got 48% in the Democratic primary. Then he's endorsed by a kissy president with a 33% approval rating. Given this downward spiral, what could Joe possibly do for an encore? He's sinking like a red stone in a sea of blue. Perhaps he should adopt Elvis Costello's "Less Than Zero" as a campaign song!

[billyskank]

98. What I don't understand is, how can that help Lieberman?

Wouldn't that help Democratic voters make up their minds to support Lamont, if it is perfectly clear that Lieberman is the Republican candidate in all but name?

[Warren DeMontague]

99. Which GOP candidate?

Schlesinger? or Lieberman?

[billyskank]

101. The official GOP candidate

Schlesinger

[Warren DeMontague]

103. Yeah, I know.

I was tryin' to make a point.

One that's been made repeatedly throughout this thread, with far more aplomb than I managed, I might add. Peace!

[B Calm]

105. Hannity is telling Connecticut republicans to vote for Lieberman!

Thank GOD that Lieberman is no longer in the Democratic Party. THE SOB was always a republican

[Jesterstear]

106. He's still in

Joe's still a Democrat. He's even calling himself an "independant Democrat." I guarantee that the Democratic party won't find the balls to throw him out, and if he wins he'll be welcomed back with open arms on the belief that he at least votes with them some of the time, as opposed to having a Republican that will vote with them none of the time.

Welcome to the wonderful world of politics, where "of, by and for the people" has long been forgotten.

[B Calm]

123. Screw Lieberman! I don't want a PART-TIME DEMOCRAT!

[NicRic]

108. Why did Gore ever pick this guy ?

The more Joe does ,the more I wonder what on earth was Al Gore thninking when he picked this guy as his running mate ? I still think Gore is great and I feel our country was denied a great president ,however the more I learn or the more liberman does ,the more I ? Gore picking him as a running mate ? Was it to bring a more middle of the road view of his stand ,since many felt Gore was a far left wing liberial ,was he pushed into picking Liberman by the Dem party ? I cant believe if they sat down and had a long discussion on their stand on the issuses that Gore would have walked away from that conversation believeing this guy was inline with his beleifs ? So many ?'s so little answers. At this point if I was in a situation to talk to our President who was kept from office in the 2000 election fiasco Prsident Gore ,one of them would now be ,why Liberman ,why Al ,oh why !

[Akim]

109. Big Political Miscalculation with Lieberman on Gore's Part

The most important decision that Gore ever made in his political life was choosing his running mate in the 2000 election. And he botched that up pretty good. He obviously wanted to reach out to conservatives (the Fundamentalists just love religious Jews) and to Cuban-Americans in Florida (Lieberman is a longtime opponent of Castro and recipient of CANF largesse). How is that for a miscalculation! The religious right was already in Bush's pocket and the only Democrat that Cuban-Americans would ever have voted for is the late George Wallace.

[Jesterstear]

119. Part of a 3-pronged screw-up

Gore had three major screwups:

1. The choice of Lieberman. Many young voters remembered their teen years when Al's wife Tipper was working hard to censor our music. Now not only were we faced with the prospect of her being even closer to the seat of power, but we had her modern day equivalent in Joe Lieberman. The man is one of the leading pro-censorship forces in the country, and some of his statements are alarmingly ignorant for a man with his power. Such as his claim that if your local Wal-Mart takes a video game or movie that's plainly rated for mature audiences, and they sell it to a minor, the MANUFACTURER of the item should be held accountable.

2. His attempts to distance himself from Bill Clinton. Despite the scandals, Clinton was still a vastly popular man. I believe many polls said that if Clinton had been allowed to run for a third term, he would have easily defeated both Bush and Gore.

3. The typical Democrat spinelessness... he refused to counter the Rove propaganda / smear machine. How many people today still believe that Gore claimed to have invented the internet? How many people still believe the Al & Tipper "Love Story" story? How many other pathetic attacks from Karl Rove went unanswered?

[Akim]

120. Gore Did It to Himself

And, sadly, Gore just didn't have "the common touch." He was a good and sincere man, but he came across as wooden and had a propensity to talk down to his audience. He was at his worst when he actually tried to connect with the common man. Then he was just a living caricature of himself.

Moreover, when Clinton's spine bent it immediately snapped back into place. Gore's spine tended to remain wobbly for some time. This is not to say that he was spineless like Bush, but simply that he tended to be more opportunistic than he had to. Witness his treatment of the lame-duck Clinton. If Gore had clasped Clinton as hard as he could in those last days of the campaign, he would have been elected president by a wide margin. But he listened to "conventional wisdom" and that did him it.

[kurth]

111. Love Is Eternal

:)

[Supersedeas]

118. Why isn't the Corp. Press making light of the WH lack of DECISION

Thought Bunnypants was a decider??

[B Calm]

130. I think we know who runs the press, and it ain't liberal!

[Marr]

122. Hey- where's the Lieberman fan club? Did they evaporate?

Seems like there used to be a whole posse trotting about the place, reminding us that 'Joe is really a liberal, but he has to run to the center because Connecticut is not progressive'.

[liberalhistorian]

124. Well, well, well, how telling that our resident

LieberBush apologists (and they and we know who they are) are totally silent on this thread. Gentlemen, care to explain this, or are you too proud to do so?

[dogday]

125. Just another reason not to vote for

Lieberman... A vote for Lieberman is a vote for the Bush agenda.....

[ikri]

126. I wonder what odds I could get on Lieberman being *'s next VP

What if in early 2007 Cheney steps down for "health reasons". Lieberman gets the nod as a unifying candidate. It'd be hard for a lot of Democrat politicians to disagree since he was Gore's VP candidate.

2008 comes around and you have McCain/Lieberman or Lieberman/McCain as the "unity" ticket to keep the corporations happy.

[svpadgham]

127. Isn't Being Endorsed By Shithead

a bad thing? Didn't somebody lose an election due to *'s endorsement? Hell, I can't remember right now. Anyway, if that is the case, then this could be great news for Shlesinger.

[opihimoimoi]

128. Whatever happened to Party Loyalty?? Bush is Despicable

Bush is Trash trying to look Caviar...er, hamburger...McDonalds #1

[porphyrian]

129. "The Uniter" at work with his party...

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