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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:21 PM
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Hezbollah wants to help rebuild homes in S. Lebanon
So after getting egged on by bush:

{ http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/081206.html

Israeli Leaders Fault Bush on War
By Robert Parry
August 13, 2006

Amid the political and diplomatic fallout from Israel’s faltering invasion of Lebanon, some Israeli officials are privately blaming President George W. Bush for egging Prime Minister Ehud Olmert into the ill-conceived military adventure against the Hezbollah militia in south Lebanon.

Bush conveyed his strong personal support for the military offensive during a White House meeting with Olmert on May 23, according to sources familiar with the thinking of senior Israeli leaders. }

So now after Israel makes thousands homeless and killed hundreds; big bad Hezbollah will be seen as the fighter for
Lebanese people and a helper to those in need. And the democratically elected government in Lebanon will be much
more supportive of Hezbollah and it's friends i.e. Iran and Syria.

I wonder how the neo con / PNAC dream of democratic and pro western middle east is going?



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:27 PM
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1. they've done that after every conflict where homes were leveled by Israel
It's hard to imagine that it's not Israel's goal to draw the Lebanese closer to Hizbollah, since their every offensive action has so efficiently done just that.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:25 PM
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13. I'd heard that as well.
And BTW, you posted some amazingly thoughtful stuff today. I didn't get a chance to read all of it and respond, but I wanted to let you know I thought it was great.

:thumbsup:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:27 PM
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2. I have heard that Hezbollah actually does operate as a social service
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 01:28 PM by patrice
agency in Lebanon, taking the place of government services which Lebanon can't afford, kind of like so-called faith based initiatives are supposed to do here, and this is one of the reasons Hezebollah has a solid political standing in that country.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:51 PM
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3. Hezbollah has shown they can defend themselves against..
an oppressive force and support the community.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:13 PM
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4. In the '90s
Hezb was nice and built things like schools.

But they were also reported to have taken the opportunity to build things under the schools. Bunkers.

There is no division of church and state, no difference between social work and resistance. Think fundie.

And if you don't like fundies, then cut off their source of money. Iran contributes a bunch; overseas charities, a lot; Syria, some; local Shi'ites, a little. They're not self-supporting in Lebanon.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:34 PM
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5. The US reserves the right unto itself to send aid, funds, and
materials to anyone or any country it so chooses. Iran and Syria, as sovereign countries are entitled to do the same. It is like nuclear research and development, if the US is allowed to do it, so should any other nation. The US has no right to "cut off" anything from anyone - except the Imperialistic right of brute force...
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:40 PM
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6. You are a cunning linguist!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:39 PM
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8. "It has also been reported...." I wonder by whom?
Couldn't be that they build bomb shelters under the schools, now, could it?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:24 PM
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12. Golly. Maybe we should look underneath all them
... Habitat for Humanity houses, too. :eyes:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 05:49 PM
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17. "they were reported"
by whom? Got any credible sources for that bit of propaganda?

Sounds so very much like the Faux Newz "some people say."

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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:19 PM
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19. "Some people say" the schools they build are actually
terrorist training camps to begin indoctrinating children at a young age. I can't quote you a source, but SOME PEOPLE SAY IT!!111
:eyes:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:35 PM
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20. and "they were reported" but obviously not by any credible source
otherwise some people would surely say what it was.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:43 PM
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7. Now everyone in Lebanon will know that they are an extension
of Welcome Wagon International!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:46 PM
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9. This is how Hezbollah came to be accepted
They give food to hungry people, jobs to jobless, houses to homeless, they build schools & hospitals..

The national government either did not or could not help, so Hezbollah filled the void..

This is why our own country needs to pay attention to all the people that are poor, hungry and homeless here.. People will align themsleves elsewhere if they are the ones who come to their aid...

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evox Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:20 PM
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11. What's interesting
is the fact that in the beginning of this latest conflict between Israel and Lebanon, Hezbollah said that if anything gets destroyed they will take care of it, and now that's what they're doing. So here's what noteworthy: "they keep their word".
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:27 PM
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14. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how Khaddafi came to power
and retained his strength in Libya?

I seem to remember hearing that when the US (under Reagan) bombed Libya.
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evox Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:36 PM
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16. I don't really think so
This is how he came to power:

"On September 1, 1969, a small group of military officers led by Gaddafi staged a coup d'état against King Idris I, while he was in Turkey for medical treatment."

Besides, if you ever get a chance to talk to a Libyan and ask them about their leader, they will probably tell you "he's just a clown with power". He's not very well liked, but the people are powerless.

Hezbollah on the other hand is very well liked by the majority of the Lebanese as it seems.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:27 PM
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15. You mean... like home heating oil from Venezuela?
:evilgrin: I hear you ... but, as a deontologist, I abhor the 'win-lose' rationalization. For me, a "good thing" is a "good thing." Period.

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etaviotal Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:59 AM
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18. How fast Hezbollah can rebuild Lebanon compared to Katrina rebuilding
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 12:02 PM by etaviotal
Let’s see how fast Hezbollah can rebuild Lebanon compared to
the speed at which our government is rebuilding New Orleans.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:55 PM
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10. maybe Hezbollah ain't so bad
wanting to help rebuild in less it's a scheme 
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