Commander in Chief -- WTF is this

[dasmarian]

Here is section 2, article 2 of the Constitution:

Section 2.

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

<rant on>
'Commander in Chief' only refers to the Army and Navy, not the general populus, other branches of government, etc. God, it pisses me off when this asshole runs around calling himself commander in chief and leaves it at that, as if he is the Emperor or King. And the repugs are willing to jump on board with it no problem because their desire to be led requires that they have some idol to worship even if it is one of the worst of all time. If you ask me, this is one of the most blatant foot-wipings on the Constitution I have seen (although there are so many, but this is sooooo in-your-face) and no one says a word. I would love for one of those reporters to stand up and say 'Look, dickhead, you are C-I-C of the armed forces so let's leave it at thet, eh?'
</rant off>

[savemefromdumbya]

1. Commander of Sheep

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. You know W doesn't read

and he makes up his own definitions has he goes along.

Don't you know tyrannts can do whatever they want?

[C_U_L8R]

3. He sure pretends like doesn't know...

what fascism means...
but he practices it so well

[HereSince1628]

4. With Gonzo and Yoo to read for him, why should he?

[angstlessk]

5. I tried to google this earlier, but I am no expert...remember when bush

had the title 'Commander-in-Chief' removed from ALL OTHERS entitled to use that reference in their duties? I do not recall who was able to use it, but I DO recall reading that he had that title removed from all other entities. I forget if it was before Iraq invasion or after..but I do recall that mandate.

[TexasProgresive]

8. It was Ronald Dumbfeld-he insisted that all military positions

that used Commander in Chief in their title stop. An example of this would be CINCPAC- Commander in Chief Pacific. I don't know if it stuck there were protests for sure as these titles had been in use for decades. RumDum said that it diluted the power of the president's title of Commander in Chief. What a dolt.

On Edit: Looks like it stuck CINCPAC is now Commander U.S. Pacific Commmand.
http://www.pacom.mil/leadership/j00.shtml

[angstlessk]

9. Thank you so much...I googled with all types of combinations

and nothing. I am glad you remember, and maybe if I use 'dumsfield's' name I might get somewhere!

[woodsprite]

6. Oh come on - Ya'll know he issued a signing statement on the Constitution!

[librechik]

7. In the Revolutionary War "they" were called Loyalists (to King George)

and the ones who wanted independence were called Patriots.


WE are the patriots. THEY are with King George.

Simple as that.

[SpiralHawk]

10. If the so-called commander is a DESERTER like George Bush,

then no one of conscience honor would ever follow him.

[Hubert Flottz]

11. His Pet Goat

Is where he gets his rules to live by...it's that voice that tells him to invade, loot and plunder at will.

[peekaloo]

12. C-I-C= Commodus in Corruptus

Heil Chimperor!

Chimp in Charge
Coward in Crawford

[fishwax]

13. has any president in recent history not been referred to that way

I remember every president I've been alive for being called commander in chief. It doesn't bother me because commander seems pretty clearly a military term--I don't have any commander over me, let alone a commander in chief, and I've never known anyone to take it otherwise. :)

Off topic: Welcome to DU, dasmarian :hi::toast: