Suspension of the Constitution ... and Justice Roberts and Alito

[EVDebs]

During the Reagan years while 41 was VP and Ollie and Co. were drawing up plans for 'suspension of the Constitution' ?

Operations Garden Plot and Cable Splicer were to allow for the detention of all dissenters during wartime and civil unrest; campgrounds (American gulags) were to be created to house the dissenters (read DUers and all other politically incorrect types offering up criticism of govt, even if valid criticism nonetheless).

Samuel Alito was sitting in the Office of Legal Counsel to the White House offering up determinations of constitutionality at that time period, see

"From 1985-1987, Alito served in the Office of Legal Counsel as Deputy Assistant Attorney General where he provided constitutional advice for the Executive Branch"
www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/judicialnominees/alito.html

We must not forget to thank the WH for providing DUers with this salient piece of information, otherwise we would never hear about it and put '2 plus 2' together, to paraphrase George Orwell.

Justice John Robert's history isn't much different from Alito's :

"From 1982 until 1986, Justice Roberts served in the White House as Associate Counsel to President Ronald Reagan.

His duties in the White House included reviewing bills submitted to the President by the Congress, drafting and reviewing Executive Orders, and generally reviewing the full range of presidential activities for legal problems."
www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/judicialnominees/roberts.html

Rex 84 and most of the other 'suspension of the Constitution' matters were promulgated by Executive Orders...see list at weblink

FEMA
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/fema.html

Alito's boss Wm. French Smith may have opposed the Rex 84 plans but we never got to hear Alito's opinions about the Executive Orders or the entire scheme to 'suspend the Constitution'.

[fasttense]

1. Those damn protesters, what do they think this is, A Free Country? n/t

[mom cat]

2. TODAY IS FILIBUSTER FRIDAY!...FIGHT LIKE HELL!

This is a fight we must win!

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Some senators who are too still too cowardly to demand a filibuster are saying they will make Alito an issue in the 2006 election. It'll be an issue alright, in their OWN primaries! Any officeholder who will not stand up for this one must never hold public office in any capacity ever again. And the difference is whether you will stand up YOURSELF right now and make those calls to their local district offices. Make calls to the toll-free numbers 888-355-3588, 888-818-6641 and 800-426-8073 if you can get through there too.

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[bridgit]

3. kick...

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[glitch]

4. Recommended. This is the kind of post that needs 83,382 recommendations.nt

edit to update DUer number.

[mom cat]

6. Spread this around widely! Send it to all senators and all friends.

[Coexist]

5. Very interesting...

thanks.

[autorank]

7. Debs, perfect. I've wondered about his role in these little affairs.

This is just what we need. Let's get this to our members of Congress...get them working on stopping this monster.

Thanks for this. It's brilliant.

RECOMMENDED

[EVDebs]

9. Thanks. BTW, Global Information Group Ltd of the Bahamas

is where Total Information Awareness ended up; outsourced, offshored, and privatized into Ben H. Bell, IIIrd's company. Combine ChoicePoint's often unreliable database (not to mention often unsecure database) with RFIDs and background checks and you have the makings of my other posting on the rightwingnut's culture war on dissenters in the USofA.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2025401

Please read and tell me what you think, autorank (btw, I admire your postings especially re the election/voting machines).

[autorank]

12. Debs...this is about par for the course. A new industry of goof balls

who can do a lot of damage. The first link in the post no longer works, MJ, but the second does and I read it. I liked this line in particular..."had used two aliases, " Well, anyone on the internet is guilty of that unless they use the same username over and over for every blog, forum, email etc.

911 and Election 2000 have something in common. They were both huge problems, tragedies which were used as excuses to "solve problems" that had little to do with the events. In the case of Election 2000, Florida disenfranchised 50,000 voters, mostly blacks by using lousy lists to purge "felons." This was done poorly and the result was many of these voters showed up on election day and were sent home, more than enough to erase the Bush "margin." In addition, tens of thousands of black votes were thrown out due to "spoilage," that's Jim Crow for voted for a Democrat in large numbers. The problem was about 100K black votes denied one way or another. And, of course, that ads up to touch screen voting machines. Right.

911 created Total Information Paranoia (TIP). If we'd just had enough information, we could stopped the high jackings and so forth. In reality, the problem was known terrorist plans to use airplanes as weapons, 1996, which were ignored by the * administration; failure to look at a key report on that subject and the dangers circa 2000--a report to the President that Condi let sit on a desk for a month; and failure of the FBI to take the AZ field agent seriously about shady characters taking flight lessons. Three dots to deflect an attack. What's the solution. Tap all phones, read all emails, run background checks on all your employees. The rapid growth of the TIP movement results in what always happens with rapid growth; too many people doing too much with tools with which they're unfamiliar;and mistakes galore. That's what's happening. The inefficiency of checking so many people from flawed records creates multiple errors and garners very little information. There should be background checks on some people. I had to have one for a project I worked on and I was fine with it. I knew who was doing it and I knew that they'd talk to me if there was a problem (and there wasn't). But routine use of background checks, including credit checks, as a matter of routine just creates more opportunities for error and violates our privacy.

Appreciate the comments on fraud posts. Back at you for your stuff, which I read when ever it pops up.

We need to form an alliance with the Libertarians and paleo cons on this issue and get this crap stopped, period. The more information you cull, the less information you use well. It's a fact.

[EVDebs]

13. Try googling the info on that first link to get to it; also the

Iraq War Resolution which allowed Bush to use his PERSONAL DISCRETION is unconstitutionally behind the whole issue we're now faced with. CONGRESS created let this 'genie' out of the bottle and it is up to Congress to put it back.

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

This resolution carries inside it the legal 'justifications' that Bush & Co. use to masquerade as being at the 'zenith of Presidential power', yet if you read CAREFULLY you will find it does have limitations:

""SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to


(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.""

The phrase '...as he determines to be necessary and appropriate...' is proscribed later in the resolution by the War Powers Act,

""c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --


(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.""

The War Powers Act of 1973
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/statecraft/warpow.html

""PURPOSE AND POLICY
SEC. 2. (a)
It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgement of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations.
SEC. 2. (b)
Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
SEC. 2. (c)
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.""

Since the WMDs, Yellowcake, terror connections to Al Qaida/Iraq, have all proven mirages in the administration's collective group-think, the 'circumstances and situations' the War Powers Act envisioned by default would be required to be TRUTHFUL circumstances and situations.

As this is now clearly not the case (#1) and the abuse of domestic intelligence surveillances (#2) also clearly are beyond the scope of the presidential overreach to the 'zenith of presidential powers', it is incumbent upon Congress to remind our new King George of the limitations of his powers. Lord Sauron needs to throw that ring into the volcanoe's molten lava NOW.

[radio4progressives]

8. K&R & BK'd Great Post!

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10. k&N!

[paineinthearse]

11. K&R

Keep this alive, people.