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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:05 AM
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So, I saw this guy named Howard Dean last night.............
And what a night it was! The good doctor came to Rapid City, SD, as part of his 50-state strategy and to encourage and fundraise for the South Dakota Democrats. I decided that I couldn't spare the fifty dollars it would have cost to attend the private dessert reception, but attended the public meeting that took place directly afterwards. The downtown hotel where he was speaking and staying was just a couple blocks from my apartment, so I just walked there.

I had thought that the public rally/meeting would be held in a large ballroom-type area, but was very pleasantly surprised to find that it would take place in a much smaller, more intimate meeting room. I got there early and managed to snag a seat in the second row. It was a good thing I arrived early (probably one of the maybe five times in my life I've actually been early for anything!), as the room began to fill up almost as soon as I sat down, and it quickly became standing-room-only.

When I registered, I noted a South Dakota Democrats poster displayed prominently next to the registration table. The banner headline was "Proud of our Past, Working for the Future", and it had pictures of 1972 presidential candidate and South Dakota senator George McGovern, and a young Tom Daschle as congressman, as well as later pics of him as senator. I remembered the 1972 election; I was seven years old and living in Aberdeen, SD. My second-grade class held a mock election, and I was the only one to vote for McGovern (only because that's who my parents were voting for, at that age, I really didn't know much about it). I shared that memory with the woman at the registration table, and she laughed and said that was a common memory for SD Dems, but hopefully wouldn't be for much longer. We both agreed that we took comfort in the fact that we were right about Nixon after all, and made the right choice with McGovern.

I began talking to the woman next to me, an older woman who told me she'd been a South Dakotan and a proud Democrat all of her life. I said that I'd been surprised to find, when I first moved here last year from Ohio, that the state's Dem party was larger and stronger than I'd thought it would be. The woman then said that the 2004 election had really energized the party, and she was feeling more hopeful than she'd felt in years.

Finally, the big moment came. The usual SD Dem party leaders trooped to the microphone at the podium directly in front of me and made the usual, dutiful remarks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we thought, just get to the important part. And then the man himself was finally introduced and was at the podium. I know it's a cliche to say things like "the crowd went wild", but they REALLY did! The room was absolutely jam-packed by that time, and I was very glad to have found a seat and one right at the front. The good doctor got a standing, cheering ovation for several minutes, literally, and he seemed to be really surprised and honored.

When he was finally able to speak, he thanked us and quipped that he didn't realize there were this many democrats in SD, which got a knowing laugh. Then he began to speak. One of the first things I noticed was just how low-key he was, unlike all of the hyped-up media portrayals of him. He welcomed the republicans who were present (the SD repub party has become very extremist and hostile to moderates, many moderates are leaving the party or thinking about it) and talked about the importance of reaching out to everyone regardless of beliefs or party affiliation. He made the point that there is no "them" or "those people", that we are all Americans, with the same common goals, dreams, hopes and fears, just with different beliefs on how to accomplish them.

He then talked about the necessity for a new direction for the country, and how the current "leadership" was mired in a culture of corruption; he named a litany of the politicians/advisors, etc., who were under indictment, suspicion, arrest, etc., including the first WH staff member to be arrested in over 135 years. He then talked about the growing Democratic victories, including recent election victories in seemingly solid red states like Oklahoma. He discussed the need for universal access to health care, education, etc. He talked about the purpose behind his 50-state strategy, saying that we couldn't just focus on the national level, but had to start from the ground up with grassroots organizing and really listening to all Americans, not just Democrats and those who agreed with us.

He said that SD was a very moral state, and that ensuring that children were not hungry or abused/neglected, that people had the health care they needed, etc. WERE strong moral values; he nearly brought the house down with that one.

He ended by saying that he wanted each of us to talk to our neighbors, co-workers, etc., and find out what their goals, fears, hopes are and what they want. Then he wanted us to talk to them about why were were democrats, what our party's goals were and how we were helping people and working to improve their lives. He really DID bring the house down when his speech was finished, and his smile was warm and genuine. He came down and shook the hands of those in the front row before he was led away. While I didn't get to shake his hand, I was literally right next to him which, for me, was enough. Again, he was very low-key, genuine, down-to-earth, and nothing like the media portrayals of him.

I walked back to my apartment in the beautiful night air, beyond thrilled that I'd finally met the man who's bringing our party back to the national prominence and strength it once had and feeling more hopeful than I'd felt in a very long time.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:09 AM
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1. Beautiful, liberalhistorian. Thanks for this, and I'm glad you had
such a great night and experience!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:10 AM
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2. wow, sounds like quite a night....
I'm envious!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:18 AM
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6. Yes, it was, Mike,
and it was at the Radisson right down the street from me, where you stayed that one night before your early flight.

How was your first day back at (dare I say it!) work?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:30 AM
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11. lol-- let's just say I'm reestablishing my tradition...
...of being late for meetings.

Wow, that's only about a block from your apt. Nice!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:45 AM
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13. Well, by now I think
you've earned the right to be late for meetings, lol. Yes, it was nice to have the rally at just a block away and it was a beautiful night to walk. The @#$%$#$@#% bike rally is finally over, and relative peace and quiet has returned to downtown; no more revving, loud motorcycles 24/7!
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:11 AM
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3. Awesome!
:)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:12 AM
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4. You are a lucky human being.
Thanks for your wonderful account of the evening; Dean certainly is a treasure and a valuable asset to our Party. He is a genuine, caring man. :hi:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:17 AM
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5. Yes, he certainly is,
and I'm very, very glad that he's on OUR side, lol! He really does appear to be genuine, caring, unpretentious, the real thing.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:21 AM
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7. thanks!
That was wonderful to read.

:applause:

I hope he brings up moral issues (ensuring people aren't hungry or neglected, health care, etc) everywhere he goes. We ARE the party that fosters real values instead of just paying lip service to them.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:27 AM
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10. Yeah I shook his hand
in Iowa at the harkin steak fry, should be president right now but the DLC brought him down to put in their boy Kerry,

some democracy,.............shit
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:45 AM
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14. Kerry was NOT the DLC candidate. You would realize that
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 11:46 AM by saracat
if you checked his voting record! He was a liberal and Howard is NOT. I like Howard but he was far more supportive of DLC policy than Kerry. Just fact checking.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:48 AM
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15. The point is that the DLC didn't want
Dean to be the nominee, they wanted Kerry; they believed that Kerry would have a much better chance of winning than Dean. A lot of that was due to the false media portrayals of Dean, no question.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 02:45 PM
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22. They may not have wanted Dean but they didn't want Kerry either.Liberman
was their choice and that shows you how "influential" they really are.I know this for a fact as I spoke to Al From about this. Believe what you want.And for the record, I have met Gov.Dean several times and I really like him but facts are facts.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:12 AM
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32. There were a of people trying to beat down Dean on both sides of..........
the aisle as I remember, something that never happened with Kerry in the heat of the primary. Howard Dean was under a fine tooth microscope so someone could pick out any inconsistency. Howard sometimes thinks up some very unconventional things using VERY conventional rules (true conservatism)and that just scares the hell out the establishment or the dyed in the wool party hacks.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:30 AM
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33. Very true. I'm hoping
that he will run again, if not in 2008, then maybe 2012. I will be very disappointed if he doesn't choose to run at least one more time. And hopefully, this time he'll be ready for the MSM whores who are so eager to paint him in a negative light.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:16 PM
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18. Lucky you, getting to shake his hand!
I was a little disappointed that I didn't get to do so, but I was so physically close to him that it really didn't matter. He seemed to genuinely enjoy meeting people and sharing his thoughts with them.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:34 AM
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12. That was the point he constantly
was making, that we actually walk the talk, unlike the self-righteous, sanctimonius, hypocritical other party.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:24 AM
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8. Thanks for the good news!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:25 AM
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9. He is an amazing man
I heard him speak in Mississippi about a year ago, and the crowd's reaction was very similar.

He is an excellent excellent speaker and you are right...there is no bombast or craziness about him at all.

I gave him a lot of money (for me) when he was running for the nomination. When the DLC and media killed his run, I was devastated. He has no sour grapes. He wants to work for change and if he's not the nominee, its okay with him...no giant ego. Just a deep, heart felt desire to help the country back on track.

A man like this comes along rarely. He is a gem. He is doing good work
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:15 PM
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24. I heard his say during the campaign
He got into the campaign for Pres to "make some points" about health care. He was astonished by his early success. He really did what he did for the good of the country. It was no suprise to me he did what he could to get Kerry elected.

I'm thrilled he's the party chairman, and I hope we have a huge success in November for his sake as well as our own.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:25 PM
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28. I think that whole "bombastic craziness"
image was deliberately created by the MSM, so that he would fail in getting the nomination. The man the media portrayed and the man I saw last night were two totally different men.

When I met Will Pitt at the 2004 Kent State May 4 commemmoration (he was speaking and I'd been a May 4 Task Force member as a student), we got to talking about Dean and Will said that he believed Dean had a "Reagan moment" in 2004. In other words, he'll make an excellent candidate in the future, but it was too soon for him at that time. Reagan had the same experience in 1976. Difference is, Dr. Dean will make a helluva lot better president than St. Ronnie of Reagan!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:57 AM
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16. thank you for that - K&R
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:12 PM
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17. Does anyone have a schedule of events for Dean's 50 state tour?
Went to the DNC web site but couldn't find a schedule of events around the nation. Would love to go and hear him speak if he is anywhere in the neighborhood.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:19 PM
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19. I was wondering the same thing too
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:30 PM
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20. I don't have one, I would
think it would be on the DNC website. He should make a special effort in the southern and western states.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:56 PM
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21. Very nice write-up. Thanks for sharing.
your evening with us. :hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:11 PM
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23. He's the best
I saw him in Oakland during his run for the Dem nomination. I paid to get to the rally inside, but there was an impromptu rally outside -- Latinos para Dean and UIPAT (painters' union). He came out to speak to us before the real rally. Looked completely surprised we were out there and said several times, "You guys are the best." He delivered a short speech, much of it in Spanish. The woman standing next to him almost hyperventilated.

His "regular" speech inside was awesome, too. He's the best.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:52 PM
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25. Thanks for
such a good write-up. Yes, Dean is a genuinely good guy. I met him several times when he was out guv.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:36 PM
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26. Lucky you,
not only getting to meet him several times, but having him as your governor as well! As opposed to the crumb-bum repub guvs I've had to deal with in both OH and SD.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 05:55 PM
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27. I saw him recently at a BBQ
here in Charlotte. So many folks showed up they actually ran out of food :)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:37 PM
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29. Howard Dean speaks for me. Thank you Dr. Dean. nm
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:45 PM
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30. great post!....n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:26 PM
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31. Howard Dean has ruined me...
for any other politician.

I LOVE the guy.

He motivated me.
He got me off of my butt.
He inspired me to speak out at work and in my neighborhood.

He still does.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:34 AM
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34. saw him in chicago summer 03
pretty inspirational guy
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