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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:09 PM
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My Interview with Rep. John Conyers (re: his omnibus Iraq report)
The Conyers Report: An Interview
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Interview

Thursday 17 August 2006

When Ned Lamont defeated Joseph Lieberman in the Connecticut primary last week, the prattling mass of GOP talking heads cried with one voice: the vote was evidence that the "Loony Left" had taken over the Democratic Party. It was a good talking point, and empty vessels like MSNBC's Chris Matthews happily ran with it for a while. Sadly for the Republicans, reality decided to intrude. Poll numbers came out which established that opposition to the Iraq occupation is now the majority position of the American people. The so-called Loony Left hadn't taken over the party. Instead, they had managed to convince the moderate middle that the war was just plain wrong.

Before the ink was dry on the Lamont stories, along came the bombshell: a roomful of terrorists were arrested in Britain for conspiring to blow nine commercial airliners out of the sky. Once again, the right-wing echo chamber ramped up. This is why we need to stay the course in Iraq, they said. This is why we are there. Again, however, these talking points jumped the tracks. The American occupation of Iraq is not curbing terrorism, but is instead inspiring it.

Just after noon on Thursday, August 17th, a report was broadcast stating that a Federal District Court in Detroit had ruled that the Bush administration's use of the NSA to spy on American citizens was unconstitutional. Judge Anna Diggs opinion on the ruling read, "In this case, the President has acted, undisputedly, as FISA forbids. FISA is the expressed statutory policy of our Congress. The presidential power, therefore, was exercised at its lowest ebb and cannot be sustained."

A lot of different threads to tie together here, to be sure. Thankfully, Congressman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) has managed to do so in historic fashion. He has released a 350-page report titled "The Constitution in Crisis; The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War, and Illegal Domestic Surveillance."

Within the pages of this report lies the hard, ugly truth of our sorry situation. The lies that led us into Iraq, the horrors of torture at Abu Ghraib, the unrelenting attacks against critics, and the frightening desiccation of Constitutional protections are described in scathing detail.

"The single overriding characteristic running through all of the allegations of misconduct identified in our Report," reads the conclusion, "has been the unwillingness of the Bush Administration to allow its actions to be subject to any form of meaningful outside review. Not only were 122 Members of Congress unable to obtain any response to their questions posed regarding the Downing Street Minutes, but neither the House nor the Senate has ever engaged in any serious review of the facts surrounding the NSA domestic spying programs. The institutional damage resulting from such constitutional neglect will likely be felt for many years, if not generations. The lesson of this Report is that if we allow intelligence, military and law enforcement to do their work free of political interference, if we give them requisite resources and modern technologies, if we allow them to 'connect the dots' in a straight forward and non-partisan manner, we can protect our citizens. We all want to fight terrorism, but we need to fight it the right way, consistent with our Constitution, and in a manner that serves as a model for the rest of the world."

Rep. Conyers was kind enough to grant an interview regarding his report, the substance of which is as follows.

More: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081706A.shtml
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:23 PM
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1. Just one quibble.
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 01:29 PM by Cleita
You state that:

Just after noon on Thursday, August 17th, a report was broadcast stating that a Federal District Court in Detroit had ruled that the Bush administration's use of the NSA to spy on American citizens was unconstitutional.

Considering I read this about 11:15 PDT and it would be 2:15 EDT, all I can say is that if you obtained the Detroit ruling, interviewed John Conyers and wrote the article in time for me to read it then, kudos to you. Or is it an error in your dates?

Terrific article otherwise and we all love John Conyers for being out there, sometimes against awesome odds, to uphold our Constitution and our rights as citizens.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:24 PM
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2. A blog had it just after noon
and it was posted here.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:28 PM
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3. I just came on line and your piece was the first I read.
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 01:30 PM by Cleita
I didn't mean to offend, but thought you wouldn't mind if I pointed out a possible mistake.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:34 PM
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4. No sweat whatsoever
I always deeply appreciate any help. :toast:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:55 PM
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5. Conyers is so cool.
Not to be a nay sayer but I am truly one at this point in regards to this matter.

If we could only count on free and fair elections I do not doubt for a nanosecond that the Democrats would retake one if not both houses.

But based on the evidence from the last 3 national elections coupled with the plethora of gross and thoroughly blatant illegalities committed by this "misadministration" we simply cannot. In the event of a Democratic win, they would be faced with a boatload of subpeonas and they'll pull out all the stops to avoid their much warranted prosecution.

We simply need a whole new paradigm to achieve law and justice in this land. Our system is hopelessly broken.

I don't know if you missed it but Eve Ensler (the authoress of the "Vagina Monologues" ) wrote the most compelling piece back in May after attending a conference in Istanbul on war crimes in Iraq. I'll send it to you if you so desire. It was called "America I'm longing to reach you." It is profound in its astute clarity. The one liner in it that absolutely haunts me is. . .

"America, those who now control our country have changed and ended law."

She nailed it. Let me know if you didn't see it and wish to read the rest. It is amazingly and heart rendingly clear.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 02:13 PM
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6. I'd love to see it
Shoot me a PM with the link, and thanks.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:18 PM
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7. Not to be an ass
but this report he did is too important to slide off the board.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:31 PM
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8. alright, cool
thanks
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:37 PM
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9. K&R #5
Welcome to Greatest.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:40 PM
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10. I almost cried after reading that
One (practically) lone voice trying to assert the constitutional role of congress, and no one cares or listens. Conyers has compiled the list of impeachable offenses in a careful and judicious way, and all I can think of is Clinton being impeached for lying about a blow job, with the baying media hounds after him as if he were Frankenstein.

I need to hang up on DU for a few days.

This is just too sad to watch and think about
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:13 AM
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26. It is hard to imagine why the clinton administration allowed
ken star to run away with so much power and wasting tax dollars for a story on sex in the w.h. it does boggle mind even more now that the list of abuses that have been chronicled by Conyers are being ignored by this house and senate.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:27 PM
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11. One last bunt
and then I am giving up; Mr. Conyers will be subsumed by a tsunami of Ramsey threads. Alas.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:29 PM
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12. Heck
I'll kick it again and already rec'd.

The thing that hollows my heart is how few of our representatives have Conyer's clarity, focus, and integrity.

A government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations will eternally make my 13th generational american blood boil.

Conyers gets it. How come so many others are so bereft of basic fundamental concern for their constituents that they pay us no mind whatsoever. Don't bother answering about the how the corporate lobbyists have long since coopted all three branches of our government.

It's mind numbing really. Somedays I feel as though activism is futile. Other days I feel differently. But I always arise and contemplate creative and unconventional though passively proactive ways to correct this g-d awful mess.

Silly me.

e-gads.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:40 PM
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13. Is it just me, or does anyone else get all tingly inside
thinking about Conyers being a committee head when the Democrats take back the majority?
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:40 PM
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14. I get goose pimples
on top of my shiver bumps.

Kicking from page 3

:kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:44 PM
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15. Him, yes, and Dennis Kucinich mentioned that he would head
I believe he said a committee on investigations. How great would that dynamic duo be in bringing our country back to where it should be?
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:54 PM
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16. Many thanks for posting this...
..in my pessimistic moments, I wonder how many real patriots are left...but Conyers always stays on the list...
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:15 PM
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17. K&R
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 08:01 PM
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18. Good Interview William
no truer words said, Congressman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich)..."but we need a new Congressional majority."
Democrats 2006!

:kick:
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:33 PM
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19. Kicking for Conyers n/t

:kick:
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:00 PM
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20. K&R
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:38 PM
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21. K&R for Will and John!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:39 PM
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22. We need a million more like Mr. Conyers. He isn't afraid to speak
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 11:40 PM by Ghost in the Machine
truth to power. I made a .pdf of his report, you can download it by right clicking HERE . It's 2.5 MB download, but well worth it.

Keep up the great writing, Will!
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 01:23 AM
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23. Kickin' and Recommendin'!!
Thank you William Rivers Pitt, and Congressman Conyers!!

:kick: :kick:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 04:12 AM
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24. k&r
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:01 AM
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25. Well done, Rep. Conyers
And thanks for sharing this important report, Will. No one will ever say the downfall of this country wasn't well-documented.

K&R
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:42 AM
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28. Thank youl
K&R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:38 AM
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27. Thanks Will
great interview.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:16 AM
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29. kick
:kick:
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:18 AM
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30. Thanks Will; this report has been out for a while
In its preliminary form it was out in late 2005 I believe. It was little heard of outside the net, unfortunately. Hopefully Conyers can find ways to publicize it, like convincing some MSM to give him airtime on it.
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