Who Created the "Terrah" Problem?

[dpbrown]

Who is our enemy?

In the fall of 1999, the Defense Department-chartered Hart-Rudman Commission determined that terrorism was such an imminent threat that "Americans will likely die on American soil, possibly in large numbers."

Bush administration officials told former Sens. Gary Hart, D-Colo., and Warren Rudman, R-N.H., that they preferred instead to put aside the recommendations issued in the January report by the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century. Instead, the White House announced in May that it would have Vice President Dick Cheney study the potential problem of domestic terrorism -- which the bipartisan group had already spent two and a half years studying -- while assigning responsibility for dealing with the issue to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by former Bush campaign manager Joe Allbaugh.

The Hart-Rudman Commission had specifically recommended that the issue of terrorism was such a threat it needed far more than FEMA's attention.

But declaring a "national emergency" and invoking FEMA allows the suspension of civil liberties.

On August 6, 2001, Bush got a Presidential Daily Briefing entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US." He didn't read it.

Reagan Created bin Laden

Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA, as part of a policy of arming a multi-national coalition of Islamic extremists in Afghanistan during the 1980s - well after the destruction of the Marine barracks in Beirut or the hijacking of TWA Flight 847, by a jolly actor who played the role of President and was good for TV ratings. So bin Laden, along with a small group of Islamic militants from Egypt, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria and Palestinian refugee camps all over the Middle East, became the "reliable" partners of the CIA in its war against Moscow.

But that war ended in 1989, and since then bin Laden has been the very picture of a reckless CIA project gone wrong. He has used his Saudi construction fortune and any other money he's gotten to attack U.S. interests anywhere he could from his Taliban-sponsored haven in Afghanistan.

George "W" Bush - World's Largest Supporter of the Taliban

Bin Laden launched two devastating attacks on American embassies in Africa from Afghanistan in 1998. Despite that, this administration gave the Taliban, arguably the most repressive regime in the world, and the government harboring the most dangerous terrorist in the world, $43 million for declaring that growing opium is "against the will of god." This made the United States, in 2001, the world's greatest monetary supporter of the Taliban.

So this administration was specifically warned, officially, by a Defense Department Commission, yet purposefully turned its back on those recommendations. It blindly pursued the "drug war" mentality of Bush I and the "star wars" mentality of Reagan. It declared itself oblivious to the current state of the world in its thrall with isolationism.

While this administration was killing innocent Japanese schoolchildren on corporate submarine joyrides, gutting our domestic regulations, planning on ruining our drinking water, plowing up our last wild lands, spoiling our last Alaskan wilderness, and looting the treasury of the United States for its rich friends, the world was moving on. Dangerously so.

Reagan Created the Threat - Bush Let it Happen on His Watch

This administration had specific, credible evidence that something was going to happen. It wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when.

This administration was busy spending all its time, though, bending America over for its corporate donors instead of making our country and the world a safer place.

This administration was spending all its honeymoon capital on pissing off the world by rejecting everything cooperative that the civilized countries of the world had worked for for years, for generations, for centuries - NO anti-nuclear, NO anti-poisonous gas, NO anti-child slavery, NO anti-global warming, making the United States a rogue state in its unilateral pursuit of some glorious corporate utopia.

This administration was "uniting" by polarizing this country between the haves and the have-nots, just like Reagan did. This administration was demonstrating how committed it was to creating a national religion-fueled corporate aristocracy and a permanent lower working class to exploit.

The attack in 2001 should not have happened. This administration was clearly and strongly warned. The Clinton administration and the Defense Department invested two and a half years in exploring how to keep our country safe from EXACTLY that kind of terrorist attack. It caught and prosecuted and imprisoned the people who attacked the WTC earlier. The commission charted by the Defense Department presented its stark and frightening findings and highly specific recommendations to this administration.

This administration threw the Hart-Rudman report out the window and said, "No thanks. Well let Dick take care of it."

Thanks, Dick.

[pooja]

1. kicked... the repugs are bad for this country

[Cobalt-60]

2. Its all true, but the basic problem is

that the constant application of superior force will eventually produce an assymetric response.
Simply: Nobody will eat sh*t forever.

[dpbrown]

6. I don't get the reference

Who's eating sh*t?

[TahitiNut]

3. But, but, but Hart/Rudman failed to identify

... JonBenet's killer! :puke:

[Lars39]

4. Found this in my bookmarks...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2876040

[dweller]

5. Trust Tinoire

to be on top of things.

:kick:

thanks for that, bookmarked.
peace
dp

[Lars39]

7. She's the best!

:hi:

[slaveplanet]

8. this is BS

and since then bin Laden has been the very picture of a reckless CIA project gone wrong. He has used his Saudi construction fortune and any other money he's gotten to attack U.S. interests anywhere he could from his Taliban-sponsored haven in Afghanistan.


It was not a reckless program gone wrong...it is going exactly right.
The CIA asset was used after 89 as well, He was brought in for the Yugoslavian conflict. Al Zarqawi also made his first appearance there. This time their role was to be psuedo enemy of the west, and have been used in that role worldwide, multiple times ever since.

[rman]

9. True; trying to hide behind incompetence, as usual.

These kinds of ops go "wrong" all the time. Repeatedly yesterday's ally becomes today's enemy. It happens so often, there's a word for it: "blowback".
In other words, even *if* these consequences are unintentional, they certainly are not unpredictable. Yet every time they try to convince us these are mistakes. "We could not have known"/"Wir haben es nicht gewust".
One would think they'd learn from their "mistakes", but no they repeat the same mistakes over and over. This by itself suggests these are not mistakes.

[dpbrown]

10. We didn't need a bogeyman until Bush came along

Bush and the necons need a bogeyman to pump up their terror rhetoric. Clinton didn't need to promote fear to further his agenda.

[slaveplanet]

11. here's an interesting interview

The Yugoslav Caldron
Jürgen Elsässer: “The CIA recruited and trained the jihadists”
by Silvia Cattori*

In his latest book, “How the Jihad Came to Europe”, German journalist Jürgen Elsässer unravels the Jihadist thread. Muslim fighters recruited by the CIA to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan were used successively in Yugoslavia and Chechnya, still supported by the CIA, but perhaps sometimes out of its control. Basing himself on diverse sources, mainly Yugoslavian, Dutch, and German, he reconstructed the development of Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants at the side of NATO in Bosnia-Herzegovinia.



14 August 2006



Jürgen Elsässer

Silvia Cattori: Your investigation into the actions of the secret services makes a frightening report. We discover that since the 80’s the United States has invested billions of dollars to finance criminal activities and that by means of the CIA they are directly implicated in the attacks attributed to the Moslems. What is the contribution of your book?

Jurgen Elsässer: It is the only work that establishes the tie between wars in the Balkan of the 90’s and the attack of September 11, 2001. All the large attacks, in New York, in London, in Madrid, would never have taken place without the recruitment by the American and British secret services of these jihadists who have been blamed for the attacks. I bring a new light on the manipulations of the intelligence agencies. Other books than mine have noted the presence of Ossama Ben Laden in the Balkans. But their authors presented the Moslem fighters in the Balkan as enemies of the west. The information that I collected from multiple sources, demonstrate that these jihadists are puppets in the hands of the west and are not, as one pretends, enemies.

http://tinyurl.com/fttoz

[dpbrown]

12. Whether bin Laden was in Bosnia or not he was created by Reagan

I don't get the point of tying bin Laden to Bosnia. He was already a problem. Russia was already out of Afghanistan. Whether the CIA tried to find something else for him to do or not he was still a rogue that Reagan created and that Bush supported by propping up the Taliban regime with money.

[Nederland]

13. The UN, in 1948

...when it created Israel, out of guilt for the Holocaust and total disregard for the will of Arabs in the region.

[dpbrown]

14. My guess is they don't call it "terrah" over there

But good luck turning everything into the Israel-Palestinian issue.