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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:40 AM
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Wow! Domestic terrorism is the realm of the left, didn't you know?
Every time some RW nutbag -- like those so plentiful at Faux News -- makes some idiotic suggestion such as creating separate security lines for Muslims at our airports, I can't help but wonder why there is so little coverage on our homegrown, RW domestic terrorists. You know, the ones who bomb federal buildings and abortion providers.

Fact is, the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts have been carried out by those who identify with white Christian extremists, but is anyone suggesting we round them all up for a trip to Gitmo? So much to choose from, too -- neo-nazis, skinheads, white supremicists, etc.

Here are the numbers: http://www.answers.com/topic/domestic-terrorism-in-the-united-states

"In the United States, acts of domestic terrorism are generally considered to be uncommon. According to the FBI, however, between the years of 1980 and 2000, 250 of the 335 incidents confirmed as or suspected to be terrorist acts in the United States were carried out by American citizens. <1> "

If you follow the link above <1> it takes you to this site: http://www.cfr.org/publication/9236/
There you'll find the different categories for domestic terrorism, including: What is left-wing domestic terrorism? and Are left-wing domestic terrorists still active?

Note, NO CORRESPONDING CATEGORIES FOR RIGHT-WING TERRORISTS are given, even though they are the ones blowing people up. Talk about in-your-face, unapologetic bias!

Ironically, there was also this bit offered regarding their definition of "domestic terrorism":
Experts do not consider all political assassinations or hate crimes to be terrorist attacks, and some critics note that politics often helps determine what gets labeled domestic terrorism as opposed to criminal activity.

Yeah, no furkin' kidding. I would never have guessed.
:eyes:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:43 AM
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1. I had this conversation with a rightie once
"You have to admit that more Liberals break the law in their political protests in favor of their causes."

"Yeah, maybe, but more Conservatives have killed in the pursuit of theirs."

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:48 AM
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2. Excellent reply!
:thumbsup:

Did that shut them up?
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:49 AM
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3. Uh, did Tim McVeigh know this? n/t
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:36 AM
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7. Or Eric Rudolph? (eom)
The Professor
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:02 AM
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4. ...
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That's not even worthy of a legit reply.
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:10 AM
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5. If they think violence has to do with skin color they are too dumb to be
mentioned. When a McVeigh-type bombs something because all the screeners were going after Muslims, maybe those dumbasses will learn.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:33 AM
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6. Here's an interesting article from 1997 (following the Atlanta Olympics)
It's curious what the FBI chooses to deem (or not) a terrorist act!

From: http://www.cdi.org/ADM/1037/transcript.html

NARRATOR: Also excluded from the FBI's terrorism list are hate crimes, such as the recent series of church burnings and the bombing of a gay dance club in Atlanta.

: "Five people were injured, more than 100 startled. Two bombs exploded at the Other Side Lounge. The second one, perhaps meant to harm police and rescue workers, was detonated by a police robot."

NARRATOR: The FBI did not respond to our request for an explanation of why these events are excluded.



Now this part is enough to make me reach for a giant-sized tinfoil hat!

Dr. HALPERIN: I think there's a search now for a substitute for international communism or the Soviet Union to justify high levels of defense spending and other kinds of actions in the world, and terrorism is a piece of that. It goes with nuclear proliferation, and rogue states, in general, and I think that threat has been enormously exaggerated.

Here's an article about all the security measures taken for the Atlanta Olympics. Just think how the bombing might have been prevented had the FBI done a little more investigation into domestic terrorists and extremist groups! The fact that the FBI excluded the bombing of a gay night club in Atlanta is telling since it was Eric Robert Rudolf, a fanatical anti-abortion terrorist, who commited both of those crimes!

http://www.emergency.com/olymresp.htm
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:36 AM
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8. But burn an SUV?
And you're an "eco-terrorist." Odd, innit, how what you call something determines how folks react to it?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:41 AM
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9. Well we know that's nothing like burning down a string of black churches..
... or bombing a gay bar, which injured several people. The FBI didn't even see fit to call those hate crimes!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:43 AM
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10. The RW domestic terrorists groups have been missing for several
years....all those neo-Nazi, white supremacists, skin-head, survivalist groups.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:54 AM
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11. Not missing... just not reported!
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 10:57 AM by theHandpuppet
They've continued to commit their crimes but these scumbags and their acts of domestic terrorism are either ignored or underplayed by the MSM. I'll give you just one example (from my own journal) of recent domestic terrorist acts in Maryland: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/theHandpuppet/53

So although I posted about these crimes NUMEROUS times on DU, I could barely get the reports to register a blip on the DU radar. Now just what does that say? I guess I can't really expect the media to follow up on these reports when too many of us play right into their hands by sitting around in a big circle jerk talking about Jon Benet or the runaway bride. What makes us any different than the rest of the American public if we feed the MSM with our all-too-willing participation in the distraction of the week? Sorry if this seems overly critical but I'm feeling pretty disillusioned these days.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:54 AM
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12. I meant that these groups are no longer listed by our government as
being domestic 'terrorists' organizations. The Souther Poverty Law Center pointed this out last year.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/schuster.column/index.html
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 01:51 PM
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13. Ah, okay.
Yes, isn't it obvious that what qualifies as a "terrorist organization" depends upon who's in power in Washington? Not only are the terrorist acts of these homegrown hatemongers, which include assassinations and bombings, not considered hate crimes by the FBI, it's also quite obvious they've been deliberately taken off the lists of domestic terrorist organizations because they link right back to groups supported by many Republican politicians: radical right-to-life groups, neo-confederate organizations, etc.

Several years ago I posted a lengthy thread on the ties between neo-Confederate hate groups and well-known Republicans in Congress. (I could not, unfortunately, find this thread in the archives.) To get just a glimpse of how pervasive their influence is within the halls of Congress, just do a Google search of "Southern Partisan" or the "Council of Conservative Citizens". You'll find many familiar names associated with them, including John McCain, John Ashcroft, Pat Robertson, Trent Lott, Dick Armey, Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, Phil Gramm, among many others. It is also no accident that almost all of these same men have the support of anti-abortion extremist groups.

Nothing speaks of domestic terrorism like a good old fashioned t-shirt, though, like the one hawked by Southern Partisan and which was worn by Timothy McVeigh at the time of his arrest:

http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?articleId=752
Here's a pic of McVeigh wearing that same shirt: http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcveigh/mcveighimages.html
Here's a closeup pic of the shirt: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/a/t/Harrison-L-La-tour/PHOTO/0066photo.html

Yes, the links between homegrown terrorist/hate groups and our own members of Congress is one which has been almost totally ignored by the press. George Allen is just the latest to rear his racist head from this pit of filth.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 02:45 PM
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14. Terrorist Organizations = millitant groups the Pukes don't like.
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