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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:17 AM
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I saw Matthew Fox last night in Asheville, NC
Fox spoke for about 90 minutes at the Jubilee Community in Asheville, NC on the need for Christian Reformation. Fox encourages a divorce from churches that support an angry exclusionary God and fundamentalism that fears science, preaches intolerance, and relies on fear and original sin as the basis of religion.

Fox encouraged the audience to spread the news of a loving God that loves compassion and justice, a God that is earth centered (GREEN MAN!!) and focuses on Original Blessing.

Fox spoke about Opus Dei and its hardline conservative Catholicism. That our supreme court has two known Opus Dei members (Scalia & Thomas) and possibly two more (Alito & Roberts). How Bush went to then Cardinal Ratzinberger in June-2004 and asked for help w/ the Catholic vote. Shortly thereafter came the order that bishops were to deny communion to abortion rights supporters including presidential candidate John Kerry.

Fox reminded us that 1 in 4 species of mammals is going extinct and that we are the only species on the planet that can CHOOSE not to go extinct.


Good Stuff!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:21 AM
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1. Dare I ask?
My first thought was this is the guy from 'Lost'. I imagine I'm wrong. So who is Matthew Fox?:hide:
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:28 AM
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2. The guy from Lost n/t
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:50 AM
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3. I'm pretty sure it's not the guy from Lost
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:14 AM
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6. Yes.. THAT Matthew Fox! : - )
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:12 PM
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19. Oh. There's more than one.
Who da thunk it. :cry:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:07 AM
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14. Oh fuck -- we don't know who Matthew Fox is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Fox_%28priest%29

It fails to note, however, that he was pursued throughout the 1980's and 1990's and eventually de-frocked by a Cardinal named Ratzinger.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:32 AM
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16. So sue me. I'm not at all religious, and hadn't a clue. nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:28 PM
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18. You're right too. The guy from "Lost" would agree with this guy.
Trust me, I know about these things...:think:
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:06 AM
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4. I just returned from 10 days in Asheville, and
it was wonderful to see a Peacenik town! I couldn't believe all of the hate-bush bumper stickers. My son-in-law was very dismissive of all of the people, calling them "non-working hippies," but I was so pleased to be reminded of the '60s/70's.

If you are wondering where to go on vacation, without supporting RED areas with your dollars, then Asheville is the place! Of course, SC.......
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:17 AM
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7. Well, at tleast Downtown Asheville fits that description.... It is a
wonderful town full of art-deco, funkiness with a great blend of urban chic, trust-a-farians, homeless, students, artists, bankers and nerds (my tribe!).
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:53 AM
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13. Hey. That sounds like my tribe too.
Maybe I should rethink my move-a-million-miles-away plan and just go to Asheville. I haven't been there since the place blossomed into a nice peaceful blue zone, but I have heard a lot about the progressive movement there in the last decade or so. The people you described sound like my kind of people.

Don't they have snow there? Any computer engineering jobs opening up next year sometime? :)
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:32 AM
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15. Ya better hurry... real estate prices show no sign of slowing down
around here... its scary.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:13 AM
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5. It's nice to hear a positive story coming from religious
leaders, for a change. I say more power to those who want to spread love and not hate. :thumbsup:
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:21 AM
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8. so you won't be surprised to hear
that the Catholic church threw him out. I think it was the whole love & not hate thing you mentioned.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:43 AM
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12. In some cases, having the Catholic church
throw someone out just might be a good thing. Not always, but at least in some cases, yeah, it's a good thing.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:23 AM
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10. Fox has been preaching this message for a LONG time...anyone
who gets excommunicated from the Catholic church for calling God 'Mother' is A-OK in my book!

Fox is one of the most challenging spiritual leaders around. He will call the bullshit what it is!

Here's the table of contents from his latest book:

A NEW REFORMATION!
Table of Contents
I. The Reformation Yesterday and Today
II. Two Christianities:Time For a Divorce?
III.Fundamentalists in Their Own Words
IV. This Historic Moment
V. 95 Theses or Articles of Faith for a Christianity for a Third Millennium

Here are a few of his 95 Theses:
1 God is both Mother and Father.

4 God the Punitive Father is not a God worth honoring but a false god and an idol that serves empire-builders. The notion of a punitive, all-male God, is contrary to the full nature of the Godhead who is as much female and motherly as it is masculine and fatherly.

7 Everyone is born a mystic and a lover who experiences the unity of things and all are called to keep this mystic or lover of life alive.

8 All are called to be prophets which is to interfere with injustice.

11 Religion is not necessary but spirituality is.

http://www.matthewfox.org/sys-tmpl/door/
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:39 AM
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11. Thanks for the info and the link.
Sounds like he has a totally different way of looking at things that transcends anything the pitiful vitriolic right wing mind can handle. It takes a real man to respect a God that is both Mother and Father. This is good news, to me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:22 AM
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9. Hell *I* could sign up for that
08)

I totally misread this at first thinking that he was calling for Reconstructionism :scared:

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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:24 PM
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17. A great spiritual mind. I have seen him twice and read several of
his books. My fave is Breakthrough, I actually have that one signed by him.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:14 PM
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20. Cross Post?
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