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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:07 PM
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"we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril" - Lieberman
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:55 PM by bloom
As if Bush doesn't undermine his credibility without our help. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:



Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut was the first Democrat to announce his support for Alito. “I have just returned from my fourth trip to the Senate in the past 17 months and can report real progress there,” he wrote in an Op-Ed piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled, “Alito Must Be Confirmed.” He argued that “it’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years, and that we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.”


http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/


:yoiks:


P.S. This is "Genuine Fake News" by Violet Socks. (I hadn't read that when I posted it originally).

P.P.S. Joe did say "we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril" - another time - just the Alito part isn't true.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/07/murtha-responds-to-lieberman/

And not only that - "we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril" is on Lieberman's own site:

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=249522
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:08 PM
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1. Go away, Joe. Go quietly into that dark night of retirement, please.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:09 PM
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2. We are trying to restore presidential credibility, Joe. You ain't helpin'.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:37 PM
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38. THIS CAN'T BE A LEGIT POST. Nelson was first, and Lieberman sez filibuster
is still an option.

The source must be a joke.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:38 PM
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41. It's a parody.
Everyone is freaking out over a joke.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:40 PM
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45. I know - and this is how disinfo gets spread quickly around here. OP
should say it's parody in their post.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:41 PM
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47. Maybe the OP thought it was real.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:01 PM
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58. It's probably because I had heard that quote of his before.
That is seemed believable. I knew he said things like that.


As I mentioned in my edit: "we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril" is on Lieberman's own site:

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=249522
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:47 PM
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50. You have to admit
that it did seem believable.

I believed it.



I'll have to notice when Ms. VIolet Socks posts things under "Genuine Fake News".
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:52 PM
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69. most posters didn't catch that, they are mistaken as you were.
it's going to be an embarrassment when they spread this around to people.
was that your intention?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #38
71. Or a freeper trying to dishearten us..Don't let it work! Keep up the fight
And be wary of any dissinformation!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:10 PM
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3. And yet, sadly, Some folks here poo poo the idea of running a real Dem
against him. :shrug:
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:04 PM
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61. Sometimes I wonder...
You don't think there are any freepers in disguise over here pledging undying loyalty to DINOs, do you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:10 PM
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:11 PM
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5. um.....ok. this is precisely the crap I think about whenever
a DLC apologist tries to tell us to shape up and move to the right.

and it is. crap.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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6. I HATE THAT MOTHER FUCKER!!..COME ON CONN PPL GET THIS GUY OUT!N/T
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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7. I'm confused
I didn't think Lieberman had announced his support for alito. In fact, he said only the other day, that he hadn't ruled out a filibuster. I'll be quite surprised if he votes to confirm. He's facing a well financed primary challenger from the left. I don't think he can afford to vote yes on alito.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:39 PM
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42. DISINFO ALERT! Please refrain from attacking since so far Joe is with us
on Alito and hasn't ruled out filibuster.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:49 PM
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51. Thanks for the info
but please note that I in way, shape or form attacked Joe. In fact, I provided more complete info than you did.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:56 PM
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56. I know you didn't attack. I was using your post to alert the board.
Sorry if you thought it was directed at you.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #42
64. YES
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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8. omfg.
he really is a full-on apologist isn't he? Holy shit!
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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9. WHAT PART OF "CO-EQUAL BRANCH" DOES JOE NOT UNDERSTAND ?!
Christ.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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10. Lieberman has become a stinking kapo
Hope you enjoy those perks, Joe. At least while they last...

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:13 PM
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11. HE IS BEGGING TO BE THROWN OUT OF THE PARTY
He is saying, "pretty please, throw me out, please, please, please"

"I really wanna be an independent, but I can't do it unless you guys kick me out first!"
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:06 PM
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73. nevermind, THIS POST WAS PARODY
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:15 PM
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12. Please Connecticut PLEASE!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:16 PM by meegbear
VOTE THIS FUCKHEAD OUT OF OFFICE!! PLEASE!!

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BTW - DU Spellcheck said that FUCKHEAD is wrong, it's either FUCK HEAD or FUCK-HEAD. Dictionary.com says one word is OK: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fuckhead
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:15 PM
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13. FUCK JOEMENTUM . (JOEMENTAL?) there i said it.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:17 PM
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14. Please tell me he's up for election this year.
Please? Is he, and can someone get a decent Democrat to challenge him in the primaries?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:18 PM
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16. Yes
he is up for re-election
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #16
65. Joy!
Now, proper Democrats need to start working on finding a candidate to challenge him in the primaries.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:18 PM
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15. What credibility?
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
34. Exactly what I thought.
I mean, wouldn't he have needed to have credibility in the first place for it to be able to be undermined?
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:19 PM
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17. Sheesh
The President is undermining his own credibility.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:20 PM
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18. Uh, I hope you all know that this is a PARODY.
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:23 PM by Connie_Corleone
Lieberman hasn't said anything about Alito as far as I know.

I'm not sticking up for Joementum, but it's kind of funny how everyone is reacting to a parody piece.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:26 PM
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23. Reagrdless. Doesn't that sound like Joe anyway?
Of course he voted AGAINST the war and AGAINST the bankruptcy bill, and AGAINST Roberts...

Oh wait.....never mind.....
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:21 PM
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19. What a fucking tool. This moran needs to be kicked out of the party...
...with Democrats like Joe who needs republicans??? :grr:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:22 PM
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20. "We must compliment the Emperor's new clothes!!"
"we call the Emperor naked at our nation’s peril"
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:22 PM
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21. 2 Senators down - 43 left - 44, if Jeffords sides with us

We only need 41 to filibuster.

Keep the pressure on.

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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:24 PM
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22. Lieberman is opposing Alito
I'm angry about his support for the war and appeasing the admin, but Lieberman consistently supports choice. I would be shocked if he supports Alito.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:34 PM
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33. HE SAYS!!! "Alito must be confirmed." DID YOU MISS THAT?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Read the piece carefully. It's a parody of his comments about
the Iraq war.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #35
72. oh wow, this was originally in LBN though, wasn't it?
thank god...

I thought for a second...

I didn't think Lieberman would say this kinda stuff outright... I have been calling him a "social democrat" because he is pro-choice and he is pro-diversity and stuff like that. But his foreign policy (like H. Clinton) is much like Bush. I haven't heard Lieberman say anything about the tapping yet either.

Too bad his recent actions have caused me to believe this thread at first...
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. Did you read the article....it's a parody!!!!
Lieberman did not say this.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. didn't get it at first - called his office...
:blush:

Ha ha! Knee-jerk reactions in these tense times are occurring more frequently, eh.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:27 PM
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24. Deleted message
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:27 PM
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25. What a shock! Joe backs Bush again. *shrug*.
Right up there with "Biden says stupid things on camera."
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:28 PM
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26. That's a threat
we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.”

and anybody who sees it as anything less has their head in the sand.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. Yes, it is. Delivered by one of our own.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:30 PM
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27. President Gore calls him Lo Blow Jo
and so do I
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:31 PM
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28. You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.
Unfuckingbelievable.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:34 PM
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32. after taking a deep breath... I called his office NOT TRUE!!
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:36 PM by FLDem5
Okay - there is nothing on his website yet, but his staffer says he has not announced anything.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:32 PM
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30. So just because he's the president
he gets a rubber stamp!Look where that has gotten us.He really needs pyschological help.Maybe he's had a stroke.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:32 PM
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31. What a piece of shit. I cannot believe I ever voted for that man to be VP.
The idiot will be prez for 3 years (hopefully LEES-IMPEACHMENT?), BUT ScAlito is for LIFE!!!!!! You dumb ass.:grr:
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:36 PM
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36. Join the Empire Party, Joe nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:36 PM
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37. somebody pull the plug on this yapping little king george joker toy
he is pathetic
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:38 PM
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40. I can't believe this guy was ever on a national ticket. n/t
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:39 PM
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44. IT'S A JOKE!!!!!!
Lieberman did not say this about Alito. It's a parody of his comments about the Iraq war.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:41 PM
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46. PROPER LINK PLEASE!!! THIS IS BULLSHIT AND NOT A REAL QUOTE!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:42 PM by Beetwasher
This is bullshit. Replace "Senate" w/ Iraq, and that's what this quote is from AND it's old. This is disinformation and bullshit.

I don't like Lieberman, but this post is dishonest and it's bullshit. Lieberman NEVER said that about Alito.

I don't know if this was meant to be a joke or what, but the link in the original post does not lead to this quote (or if it does it's hard to find on the page) and it's not made clear in the original post that this is supposed to be a joke.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:42 PM
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48. Oh for fucks sake... The Democrats are their own worst enemy...
Biden, Lieberman, and their ilk just make me SICK.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:42 PM
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49. I'm pleased to know I never voted for this jerk.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:49 PM
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52. really
why doesn't he just go ahead and switch party affiliation? He is a repuke, and he (as well as we) know it.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:51 PM
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53. who's nation?
The nation is not ours anymore, but that of a bunch of thuggish criminals
who have assholes so large that joe lieberman can make an entire speech
inside a republican rectum.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:54 PM
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54. Can you delete this post.
There appears to be no truth to this statement, as this is "fake news". If he did not say this, then change the headline. As i recall, lieberman stated a day or two ago that he may support a filibuster.

Thanks.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:00 PM
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57. He actually did say those words, but it was about Iraq
Mr. Lieberman particularly infuriated his colleagues when he pointed out at a conference here that President Bush would be commander in chief for three more years and said that ''it's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that.''

''We undermine the president's credibility at our nation's peril,'' Mr. Lieberman said.


http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F30C15F83A550C738DDDAB0994DD404482


Still, it's unfair to take this potshot at him if he says he could support a fillibuster.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #57
62. That's why I am upset.
Lieberman did not say those words about the filibuster. As much as I hate his stand on the iraq war, this is not related to the war. It's something that freepers will comment about that we can't even get our statements straight.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:38 PM
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67. Especially when the source is obviously fraudulent.
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 02:38 PM by BurtWorm
I agree with you. And I loathe Liebermanism as much as anyone. (I voted for Weicker in 1988--the only time I've ever knowingly and purposely voted GOP).
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:55 PM
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55. How about presidents who undermine reality through constant LIES?
Is there any sort of penalty which we might dare to apply to the, Joe-mentum? Anything?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:03 PM
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59. I'm confused
The link the blogger has goes to a different Lieberman op ed and I don't see anything about Alito in it. The name of the editorial isn't even entitled "Alito must be confirmed". The article linked is "Our troops must stay". I don't believe Lieberman has made a decision (or announcement) yet on whether he's going to vote for Alito or not.

Look, I don't like Lieberman any more than anyone else here, but if we are going to attack him, the least that can be done is linking to the corrent article (and that's not your fault - it's the blogger's).
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:09 PM
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63. you're right
The blogger posted this under "Genuine Fake News". The credibility part is a real, Lieberman quote - that he has on his own site.

The Alito part is made up.


I hadn't noticed this when I first posted it. Not being a subscriber to the WSJ - I didn't bother trying the link.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. Thee WSJ article was an editorial
so it's free for non subscribers (granted I don't think I would ever read the editorials in the WSJ) but I only did so to verify if this was true or not.


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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:03 PM
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60. Fuck you Joe
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 02:04 PM by alarimer
Traitor. Bush ass-kisser.

well it seemed believable.

My subject line still stands, however.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:48 PM
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68. wow, that ps is going to be missed by a few people.....how useless and
confusing can a post get?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:55 PM
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70. and watch we'll wind up getting a Liebermen zell miller ticket in 08
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 02:55 PM by DanCa
*Takes a finger points it at head pulls imaginary trigger, sticks out tongue, and has head fall back to the desk*
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:09 PM
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74. Every time I wander into GD to bestow my knowledge and...
wisdom on DU.
:dunce: :crazy:

I see a thread like this.

Just listened to Joe on the raydio a day or two ago. Said he hasn't ruled out a filly and hasn't decided.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled knee-jerk festival.
:party:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:21 PM
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75. Locking....
This topic has run its course.



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