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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 08:58 PM Original message |
Women in Iraq forced to eat men's table scraps |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here, we're not even supposed to eat the damn scraps |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. |
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I_Make_Mistakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I agree with the scrap thing, however, my focus was on the FBI |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I expect this govt to get it all wrong. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is this truly the way women |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. ME culture, yes. Islam, ambiguous. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Sorry it was a baiting question |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. If Jill Carroll were being held near Abu Ghraib she wasn't in the boonies |
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redherring (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I think Turkish muslim women have a pretty good life |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. In the US, Turkey & other moderate countries, an Islamic revolution is... |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Yes, Muslim men are terrible to their women |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #17 |
67. There is an up side and a down side |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. No. |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
78. Agreed |
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Truthiness Inspector (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. That is so very sad. n/t |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. I can, people in this forum are so concerned with a Redskins |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Really it depended which tribe. |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. Maybe Jill was going to give that story to the masses, |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. I do believe that.... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. Tell me, |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. my own life experience... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I think this is moral cowardice. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. You and I live in different worlds... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No, we live in the same world, |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. hmmm....the norms that society agrees on... |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. If I was cooking.... |
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I_Make_Mistakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Skooo, if you get lemons make lemonade.. Imagine when the |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Exactly as I said on my post below. n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. As all good cooks do n/t |
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guinivere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
75. I do that anyway. How else can you adjust the seasoning? |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. Which Iraqi women? Iraq was pretty modern, before we bombed |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Our grift of |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. Well, I have heard that some tribal customs are like that. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Sorry but there's nothing okay with justifying this |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm not justifying anything. I am merely stating how things are. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I guess I'm just sick at the status of women |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. In places where they have no rights just being rebellious about |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. The system is flawed though. I'm sorry but just because this kind |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It's an issue of cultural relativism |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I know for a fact that trying to rescue one woman from these |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Uhm, so you believe it is okay for |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 12:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I never said that... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Maybe forced change but |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. It almost looks like she WANTS to be a martyr |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I don't think she came up with the idea. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Your last comment is probably the most accurate assessment |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. There is different, and then there's WRONG. Sure, some things are just di |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. There's a big difference |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. They are okay with it because the alternative is not to eat at all. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I'm not suggesting any interference; i think the women involved need to |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You have never lived in a society with no laws to back you I |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. What about America? There was a time in america when women (married |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Whatever. I know we had a hard time in America until |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. The status of women in America was never as bad |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-18-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. self-del |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
68. But they think it's wrong how we treat sex |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. No, it's worse. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
33. More than half the women in my life ... |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I assume you had other food provided for you that wasn't picked over, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Huh, my husband used to volunteer to eat the food I |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Are you kidding me? |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
34. That's sickening, but not at all surprising. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
35. Primary producers worldwide forced to eat table scraps |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. Mistreat women... go to hell... go straight to hell! Also, this... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
39. unfortunately, this sort of thing is true in many cultures. men eat first |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Also, in some cultures don't the men eat before the children as |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Ancient Athens being one of them |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. It's hard for women to fight back when they are kept in ignorance |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. This paints an incorrect picture of how things are |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Good grief, this type of thing certainly predates our arrival in the ME. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I am not excusing anything, I don't know where you got that idea |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. I have been opposed to the Iraq war since day one, and the fact that women |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. We actually are in agreement, but |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'm certainly not defending this, BUT: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. This happened in America not so long ago in the last century too. |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-19-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I remember my grandmother said she liked chicken feet |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
63. Freedom is on the march! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. my sexist father in law tells me i should appreciate living in u.s. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-21-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
79. My dad went to India in the 70s and said it was like that there |
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