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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:53 PM
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Poll question: What do you think of Joe Biden running for president
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:55 PM
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1. He's not much but he beats the shit out of what we have now....
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 12:02 AM by Rowdyboy
He doesn't stand a bat's chance in hell of winning the nomination, though.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:01 AM
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3. That goodness for that. Or Citibank would end up running the country.
Instead of the oil companies.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:26 PM
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45. A close second to Shemp Howard.n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:28 AM
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21. shit beats the shit out of what we have now.
We would be better off with what literally flies out of an elephant's ass that what has figuratively come from there.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:40 AM
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26. I think he'd have a great chance of winning the nomination, personally.
He's precisely the sort of "Democrat" the corporate media would get behind. He'd hand them cash if he were in office, and he'd inject the Democratic base with a serious case of "why bother". They'd sell his DLC ass for all it's worth.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:11 PM
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27. and then say Democrats are out of touch when he loses to a Jethro
barely out of his Klan robe like George Allen.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:01 AM
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2. I HAD to go with the * comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was just too funny!! Seriously, I don`t think Biden stands a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:29 AM
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22. probably everyone would agree but Biden
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:01 AM
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4. I think he should run
He willl bring some interesting issues to the primary debates.

He won't get my primary vote, odds are, unless the field is pretty thin and grim, but if he makes it to the general, I'd work for him and vote for him.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:01 AM
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5. ....
:puke::rofl:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:08 AM
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6. Pfft. Him, his hair, and his gimungous, bloviating ego can all fuck off.
Oh yeah- and that RAVE act was a great idea, too. Too bad ol Bill "Uncle Bobo" Graham's not alive anymore; he could be doing time as we speak for the multiple, apparently felonious, times I saw him produce Grateful Dead shows. :eyes:

Joe Biden. Uh, No Thanks.

Pffft.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:06 PM
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50. Turn a camera on, and Biden will get his face in the field of view
Biden is a neolib imperialist whose opposition to the war in Iraq is based solely on Bush's management of it, not on whether the US should have attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9-11.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:12 AM
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7. I just farted really loud and really long
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 12:12 AM by Strawman
That's what I think about Joe Biden running for President.

I'll tear up my voter registration into confetti if he's the nominee.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:19 AM
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8. Nope. Not Biden.
No way. I'm tired of the DLC and corporate enablers. Boot 'em out.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:24 AM
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9. Other.
I don't.
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recovering democrat Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:25 AM
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10. Supporting Democrats
When I see him calling for Lieberman to withdraw and personally visiting Connecticut to campaign for Lamont, I may THINK about voting for him..... after about eighty other possibilities that are better.
What is he doing for any other Democratic candidates?
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:26 AM
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11. Ick. The honorable senator from MBNA can
fuck off. He's better than Lieberman, but that doesn't pay the interest on my credit cards.

Plus, I'm old enough to remember his Neil Kinnock plagiarism scandal.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:26 AM
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12. Small state-- BIGGGG EGO
:(
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:42 AM
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13. Riverboat gasbag.
I'd think more highly of a rash on my dick.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:48 AM
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14. I wouldn't like it nearly as much as
the predatory, loan sharking, usurious finance corporations would
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:00 AM
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15. BANKRUPTCY BILL
If anyone is in doubt about him:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044

He should stop wasting peoples time with the Presidential nonsense.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:31 AM
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23. bankruptcy bill moves someone from list of moderatest to whores
it was inexcusable.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:37 PM
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38. Lieberman (D-CT), Nay ... Reid (D-NV), Yea
:evilgrin:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:04 AM
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16. 12 hour a day news conferences from the mouth that never closes?
No thanks.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:04 AM
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17. Biderman in the WH???
One word :puke:

If the Dems nominate ANY DINO, my liberal ass is outta here.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:29 AM
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18. His support for the MBNA sponsored bankruptcy bill is abhorrent.
I don't know if I would vote for somebody who is so willing to assault working class interests.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:36 AM
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19. Wouldn't support him in the primaries
And it would require MAJOR holding of the nose to pull the trigger in the general.

I'm not sure I could do it.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:46 AM
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20. Jan. 7th, 2001: Biden on Meet the Press
Asked why he didn't stand with the Black Caucus to oppose the unlawful Florida electors?

Biden's answer (in unison with Kerry):

"Nobody Asked Us."

Uh huh. As if it wasn't his job as a sitting Senator (clearly described in Breyer's dissent to the BvG edict) to make an independent judgement as to the validity of those electors.

Do we want another Dem pet of the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy?

Hopefully no one will ask us (again).

--

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:32 AM
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24. wow. They covered that on Meet the Press?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:36 AM
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25. Hell no. I would not vote for him.
He's not much better than Lieberman.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:30 PM
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28. He's schizophrenic
Once in a while he says or does something to really impress me. Then, the next time I see him he repulses me by doing something stupid. Its really strange.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:20 PM
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33. hold and release tactic--once I heard this about GOP moderates, it fit DLC
too.

For important votes, the GOP gets the commitment of enough congressmen or senators to ensure it passes, then when they have more than enough, they 'release' moderates so they can vote against it to please their constituents without any danger of defeating the bill.

I suspect the DLC types do this too, and even some that we consider more progressive.

They can safely protest or even vote against things when the outcome is already decided the other way.

I wonder how many of Biden and Lieberman's 'good' votes fit this pattern.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:49 PM
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46. I can see that.
Its more than just his voting record too. Once in a while he says something great or really sticks it to Bush. Then, the next time I see him on TV he makes me want to barf. I guess a lot of the DLC types are like that. Hillary is that way a bit too.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:32 PM
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29. I forgot my Lieberman/Biden ANIMATION:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:34 PM
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30. another good TOON on Biden's relationship to GOP:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:15 PM
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31. when this gets up over a hundred, we should fax this to Biden.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:18 PM
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32. Absolutely not! eom
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:21 PM
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34. !
:puke: :puke: and :puke:
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:41 PM
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35. Biden's got a good handle on foreign policy.
His economic policies leave something to be desired in a number of cases. I'd be far happier seeing him as Sec. of Defense or State than President, I think.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:22 PM
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37. a guy who votes with Bush has a good handle on foreign policy?
He might have a good grasp of the issues, but comes at it with the wrong priorities, and therefore wrong solutions.

I don't doubt that he would have done a variation of what Bush has done in Venezuela and Haiti, trying to murder the elected president in one and sending Marines to remove another, in both cases to please business interests.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:43 PM
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36. No!!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:39 PM
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39. He was an enabler for Clarence Thomas' butt sitting on Supreme Court...
plus some other dreadful stuff...but that alone in my mind makes him unfit for a Dem Presidential candidate. But, we own Thomas on that Court to Biden when he refused to allow the witness who would verify Anita Hill to testify...by shutting down the hearing at 2:00 a.m. in the morning while she was still waiting to testify.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:19 PM
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52. Thanks - I will NEVER forgive Biden for giving us Clarence Thomas.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:14 PM
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40. He'd never shut up
He'd be on the teevee 24/7.
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:15 PM
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41. You forgot ( not my cup of tea). n/t
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:20 PM
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43. Kind of weak when you hold him up next to the likes of Henry Waxman or
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 04:22 PM by Lusted4
David Bonior or Bernie Sanders. IMO, of course.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:16 PM
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42. I think he would go indy like Lieberman if he lost a Democratic primary
Whats that tell you?

Don
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:26 PM
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44. Lieberman wannabe.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:55 PM
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47. As the founder of Austin4Biden I have to ask
President of what?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:59 PM
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48. Not enthusiastic
He's slick without the charisma and know-how of Bill Clinton. And he voted for that dreaded Bankruptcy Bill. Would vote for him in GE only because they'll probably run someone like Allen.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:02 PM
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49. Not much.
Slightly more enthusiastic about Biden than I am about Evan Bayh. But that's about it.

If Biden were the nominee in 2008, I'd vote for him, of course. I just wouldn't be wildly excited about it.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:15 PM
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51. He'll have to dress properly


GorgeousGifts (Australia)
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:20 PM
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53. He could have been a leader on an important issue -- Abu Ghraib
and torture, but after some nice quotes in hearings, he has disappeared on this story.

I don't know if this is his specific plan or if this reflects a bigger approach by the party. With some exceptions, this has been the dc dem approach all along on the dozens of important issues of the last six years. One or two designated dems say what needs to be said initially, the others sit on their hands, then the issue fades away. I don't get it, but if we look back to the behavior of our opposition party, this is what we see.
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