"Civil War Looms In Mexico"

[Popol Vuh]

Pentagon Orders American Special Forces To Mexican Oil Fields As Civil War Looms

Russian Military Analysts are reporting today that the United States Military Leaders have ordered an ‘advisory contingent’ of American Special Forces Officers to Mexico in order to prepare their Mexican counterparts for an expected siege upon Mexico’s vast oil fields, and which provides to the US its second largest amount of imported oil after Canada.

The actions being taken by the Americans is in response to the growing rebellion in Mexico over the stealing of its Presidential election by its present government and backed by US corporate interests, and which fear a leftist controlled Mexican government would break away from its present orbit around the United States Empire.

Every day on its present march towards outright Civil War sees new escalations in this present conflict, and which today has seen the Mexican Government protecting their government buildings, and as we can read as reported by New Zealand’s NZTV News Service in their article titled "Mexican riot police seal Congress",

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=13107

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=155552

http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article2010.html


Why the hell are we not hearing about this in the so-called main stream press? This is big news.

[Hubert Flottz]

1. Heaven forbid the people would get the kind of government they

voted for! The Globalists know best? The world bankers are grabbing for power in every country on Earth now. They are so close to world domination they can taste it, but their dream is falling apart.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. Bella Ciao is NOT a reliable source.

Maybe that's why you're not hearing about it.

[Popol Vuh]

6. Are these reliable enough?

Mexican riot police seal Congress

Hundreds of riot police in black body armour sealed Congress with roadblocks and a metal wall on Tuesday to keep leftist protesters away after a violent clash over Mexico's disputed presidential election.

Federal police took control of all the streets around Congress in a show of force to prevent protesters from blockading the building ahead of President Vicente Fox's state of the nation speech there in two weeks time.

About 15 legislators from the left-wing party whose presidential candidate, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, narrowly lost the July 2 election were among those hurt on Monday when police tore down tents in their partially built camp, tear gassed protesters and drove them back with clubs.

Protesters responded by tossing rocks and bottles at the police. It was the first violence since the election protests began weeks ago.

The leftists stayed away on Tuesday but warned their legislators would disrupt Fox's state of the nation speech.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/815788

Gunmen Kill 3 Protesters in Mexico

(AP) - OAXACA, Mexico-Gunmen fatally shot two men and a 12-year-old boy who were traveling to Oaxaca to join ongoing protests that have driven tourists from this quaint southern city, police and protesters said Thursday.

Andres Santiago Cruz, 35, Pedro Martinez, 70, and Paolo Martinez, 12, were fatally shot on a mountain road about 155 miles from Oaxaca City late Wednesday, said Jorge Albino Ortiz, a spokesman for the leftist Oaxaca People's Assembly. The victims had been members of the assembly, he said.

Meanwhile, a protester was shot to death when assailants opened fired on a march of about 8,000 people calling for the resignation of Oaxaca Gov. Ulises Ruiz, the man's wife said.

Jose Jimenez, 50, was pronounced dead on arrival at a hospital, Clara Jimenez said.


http://news.findlaw.com/ap/i/630/08-11-2006/d58a0014b4dd9824.html

http://vivirlatino.com/2006/08/15/protesters-in-oaxaca-mexico-killed-and-kidnapped.php

[acmejack]

11. Perhaps you could direct us to the "Official" list of approved sources

I often hear of these "unreliable sources" but it seems only the privileged few know who the reliable sources actually are, please share. Edify those us laboring in the dark.

[pretzel4gore]

14. why would an overwhelmingly poor people

living next door to a racist/fascist america and with an entire history of being ripped off/exploited by the pig vote for the pig's candidate?
whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhy?
why?
WHY?

[robinlynne]

18. ummm. they didn't.

[bananas]

19. Narco News is an EXTREMELY reliable source

and was linked to in the original post: http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article2010.html
Here's a photo from that article, not in the original post:

[cyberpj]

25. From the article you referenced - just like US, 7 judges will decide!

"If the seven electoral justices believed that holding a partial recount would calm passions, the facts unleashed by that partial recount have served, instead, to flame them. What the judges do with those facts will determine whether the institutions will correct the fraud, or whether the institutions will risk, as in Oaxaca, falling from power because of trying to impose an indefensible crime against Mexican society and democracy. What seven judges decide in the next three weeks will mark a crossroads in Mexican history… and that of all América."

[bluestateguy]

3. Are these reliable news sources?

Or cuckoo crackpot whackadoos using Jason Leopold standards of journalism?

[rman]

8. Even without any source,

given the multitude of precedences, it's entirely plausible that the US will provide military assistance to "defend its foreign interests". Has happened many times already, nothing "cuckoo crackpot" about it.

[MisterHowdy]

21. well said.

Fuck Mexico's Democracy,
gotta defend those oil fields.

[mdelaguna2000]

4. Have you written an LTTE?

To your local paper, asking why coverage hasn't been greater, especially compared to the Ukraine election?

I have been meaning to write one, but feel hampered by the lack of information (vicious circle). Maybe I'll do that today.

I'm heading to Mexico City (for professional reasons) on Thursday - somewhat apprehensive.

[Subdivisions]

17. Please, have a safe trip...

keep your eyes and ears open and, please, let us know what you saw and heard while in Mexico City.

Thanks.

[gorbal]

5. Some say that about "Narco News"

I am curious what the history is with Bella Ciao that people don't trust it. I posted that article a few days ago and it mysteriously disappeared, even from "My DU"

I heard Thom Hartman saying something about US troops in Mexico...(perhaps he read the same article.)

I don't know if anyone else has ever surfed foreign language newspapers via google translator...but you can find some interesting news before the english speaking press covers it. I posted some direct links on this thread here-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2464439&mesg_id=2464439

:)

[Disturbed]

7. The US Corp Media is too busy with

terra plots and Jonbene.

[Judi Lynn]

12. I've noticed Narco News does post links to its main stream news sources,

so it's clear the publisher isn't just pulling his information out of thin air. I surely trust the guy so far, from everything I've seen there.

He attempts to fill the news void created by our corporate media's flat refusal to inform Americans of anything going on in Latin America, keeping us profoundly in the dark unless we try to find information from other sources.

It's fine to send our taxes to Latin America to things like "Plan Colombia," and funding for the School of the Americas, to train right-wing governments in torture techniques, etc., or to set up military bases they don't bother telling us about, but God help us if we should want to know anything about current affairs there!

[elehhhhna]

16. Her's something interesting I haven't noticed in the local paper:

Mexican riot police seal Congress
Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:51pm ET


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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Hundreds of riot police in black body armor sealed Congress with roadblocks and a metal wall on Tuesday to keep leftist protesters away after a violent clash over Mexico's disputed presidential election.

Federal police took control of all the streets around Congress in a show of force to prevent protesters from blockading the building ahead of President Vicente Fox's state of the nation speech there in two weeks time.

About 15 legislators from the left-wing party whose presidential candidate, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, narrowly lost the July 2 election were among those hurt on Monday when police tore down tents in their partially built camp, tear gassed protesters and drove them back with clubs.


Protesters responded by tossing rocks and bottles at the police. It was the first violence since the election protests began weeks ago.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=winterOlympics&storyID=2006-08-15T205106Z_01_N28358335_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEXICO-ELECTION.xml

[Annces]

9. kick

DU is not that interested either it seems. Mexico is our neighbor.

[AnnInLa]

10. Interesting info here

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/18/10152/5308


Some YouTube video links and pics available at the kos site....MX legislators beaten (literally) for advocating for the re-count

[NoPasaran]

13. Historically, Mexico has been very sensitive

Historically, Mexico has been very sensitive about the presence of foreign military forces on their territory. The idea that they would call in US SPecial Forces to help deal with an internal political matter is just a little hard for me to believe, especially when the source is just quoting anonymous Russian sources. How does one "lay seige" to enormous oil fields anyway>

[Kolesar]

22. Mexico has a memory of us stealing everything from Texas to California

There was a three way struggle for power in Mexico early in this century. When the US sent Pershing into Mexico to "get" whoever sacked Columbus, Mexico, the three Mexican parties united to repel the Americans. (I think it was Zapata who sacked Columbus)

[NoPasaran]

26. There was that whole Maximiliian thing too

When the French stole the rest of the country.

I think it's pretty well accepted that Villa was the one who attacked Columbus, NM. It certainly wasn't Zapata, who wasn't too interested in events beyond Morelos. Villa's base of operations had always been in the north.

[helderheid]

15. recommended - WOW!

[originalpckelly]

20. Little do we know civil war looms here as well.

What else can happen if this nation continues down the path of tyranny?

[gorbal]

35. I do feel as if people are missing

I don't know if they are dissapeared, hiding out, or just hanging out here with me, but I have this strange feeling, like a certain undefinable population of our country has vanished.

[gorbal]

36. I do feel as if people are missing

I don't know if they are dissapeared, hiding out, or just hanging out here with me, but I have this strange feeling, like a certain undefinable population of our country has vanished.

[citizen snips]

23. viva la revolution.

[Greyhound]

24. Thank you for posting this. It is difficult to say the least to keep up

with what's going on down there, especially since I don't speak spanish, and as you point out, there is a total blackout here in corporate press.

[alarimer]

27. Would we be preventing civil war or causing it?

like in Iraq. We're not so good at stopping civil wars but damn good at starting them.

[mod mom]

28. I am afraid we would be provoking it int anticipation of Us using boycotts

after a stolen election. (not too far fetched -is it?)

[alarimer]

29. unfortunately not to farfetched at all

We have invaded Mexico before. I dimly recall reading something about a 1914 invasion but can't recall the precise justifications for it.

[Virginia Dare]

30. Yes, definitely LIHOP...n/t

[citizen snips]

31. Bush's foreign policy has been a complete failure.

So yes any US involvement will likely mean that mexico will descend into a civil war.

[Karenina]

32. No, his foreign policy has been a catastrophic success.

Those, for whom he fronts, desire population reduction, chaos and weakened resistance to their resource and power grab. In serving THEIR interests *dimson has been made-to-order. *He's a doped-up regurgitating bubble-boy and those Amurikkkan "citizens" who support him are no better than sick puppies lapping up their own vomit.

[Raksha]

33. Why aren't we hearing about it in the mainstream press?

Well, they wouldn't want Mexico's northern neighbors who have had elections stolen from us three times in a row (at least) getting any ideas now, would they?

[autorank]

34. Mexico is where it's at in the fight for democracy.

I'll have a comment on this Monday in Spanish and English. I've been following as closely as possible and find this source Narco News http://narconews.com/ the very best place for information. They're not mentioning the troops etc. but that's neither here nor there yet.

The PRD won the election by all accounts. The American press has distorted the election coverage in ways that go beyond what they did in 2004, way beyond. They're making up trash and leaving out stunning information:

- 130,000 altered votes in the 9% recount - Obrador wins if this held up over 100% recount
- the "independent" election institute is not independent - Calderon's brother in law had the
contract to write the software that runs the institutes computer system, which tabulates the votes
- 2.5 million votes were conveniently forgotten when the institute announced that Calderon was the "winner"
- ballots were stuffed in dumps and other places, simply discarded;
- the seals were broken on ballot boxes, a no no big time;
- a union leader was charged with funneling $270 million in education funds from the Fox government to Northern states to influence votes;
- and soforth...

You think we get this information here. No way. Our press is complicit in this tragedy.

Oaxaca is in rebellion virtually and there is more to follow.

You think there were demonstrations on May Day by Latinos here, watch what happens if it is verified that one military contingent is on Mexican soil. That would blow people's minds. I look at this as "an unconfirmed report" unconfirmed but if it's true, this would also represent a terrible assignment for the US military. Lets wait for proof on this but be aware on the Mexican election - it was stolen.

[nicknameless]

37. "Civil war"? Seems more like a *Revolution* by the People vs gov't. thugs.

It doesn't seem like the People are fighting each other. That would be a civil war.

[pinto]

38. Locking.

Sorry, but DU doesn't support bandwidth space or publicity for highly unreliabe and/or bigoted websites.
bellaciao is one of them. Thanks.