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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:49 AM
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I saw World Trade Center last night.
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 10:51 AM by Windy
It was a good movie, but what struck me was a renewal of thought regarding the pain the victims and their families when through. Then I became extremely angry thinking about how Bush and his administration used the tragedy suffered on those of 9/11 to go into Iraq...leaving those that caused their pain running free.

Bush doesn't give a damn about the 911 victims and families. They are just a tool to him, Cheney and Rove...


It sickened me!!!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:51 AM
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1. But I heard someone say
that many of them woulds been divorced harpies by now anyway.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:54 AM
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2. I took that from it, too.
I thought about the pain so many people suffered, and how in the days after September 11, Americans and the rest of the world actually came together in the face of evil.

Then that asshole blew it all on an irrelevant war.

I sort of felt sorry for the rescuer who went on to serve two tours of duty in Iraq. Bush played on the emotions of guys like that so he could live out his little revenge fantasy and get the guy who tried to kill his dad.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:57 AM
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4. Bush, Cheney et al are TRULY Evil!!!!
May they rot in hell...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:57 AM
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3. Did it make out like Saddam and Iraq were behind 911?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:59 AM
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5. absolutely not.
the movie was done appropriately. Looking through a totally neutral lens. My opinion regarding the movie is what I took away from it only.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:17 AM
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9. Thank you.
I prefer eyewitness testimony, especially a DUer's.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:05 AM
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6. no
There was nothing about the perpetrators or their motives, or the US government's response. It's just the stories of two responders who were rescued from the rubble and their families.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:18 AM
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10. Thank you.
Oliver Stone got the nation to think about the JFK assassination, so he's A-OK in my book.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:17 AM
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7. putting that into perspective,
In July, 3000 civilians were killed in Iraq. 100 per day on average. an overwhelming fact with no end in sight.

Imagine if we had a leader whose goal was peace
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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:17 AM
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8. I haven't seen it yet, but want to soon . . .
Windy,

Did you see or hear anything in the movie that made you think "Huh, what was that noise or sound? Why did that tower 7 fall like that? Where is this dripping molten steel coming from?"

Where do you stand on 9/11?

Are you OCT --- agree with the government on who and what caused 9/11?

Or are you LIHOP or MIHOP?

I'd like to know what you or others think who have seen it. From what I know from other reviews read, Oliver Stone went for what really happened, from all the I witness accounts (without any commentary) from the police officer's and firemen's expeiences. And they witnessed many things that made them go "Huh? What was that?"
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:36 AM
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12. I admit that the fact that tower 7 also imploded has always bothered me
I don't understand how that could have happened from towers 1 and 2 being hit. I don't know if I'm LIHOP or MIHOP. I would like to think that our government was not complicit, but nothing would surprise me from this crew.

As I said though, what I took away from the movie was the tragedy that occurred that day and the fact that so many people were taken advantage of by Bush. The victims, the soldiers...and the american public. Sick bastards.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:21 AM
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11. The thing is, who is this movie going to influence more come election time
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 11:22 AM by mtnsnake
The timing is questionable, to say the least. IMO, it'll give a slight boost in favor of the repukes come November.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:38 AM
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13. I don't think so at all
Frankly, the "Repukes" won't go see it as it was made by a "Hollywood Liberal". And I really think that through its neutrality, (no spin) you can recall what really happened that day and are reminded that your government failed you and worse, exploited you.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:55 AM
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14. The 'pukes WILL see it...
...since the RW punditocracy has praised it so vociferously. It is certainly not jingoistic at all, especially if one knows anything about the players involved (Stone, Gyllenhaal, ???) and their left-leaning politics, but the pundits think that anything that reminds the sheeple of 9/11 -- no matter how irrelevant to Iraq, Iran, etc. -- accrues to their advantage. I think most people are over that, but they still try to remind people of "the fear," their only political weapon.
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:51 PM
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15. The movie was good but unnecessary
Essentially, Stone's film was just an exercise in sentimentality and the exultation of ambiguous American values - family, religion, loyalty to country.

While the film was unquestionably well done and moving to see what these officers went through, it was pointless. If a movie is to be made about 9/11, it should probably cause us to face questions as to why it happened and how our country's past and future play into its occurence.

This was just schmaltz, totally disposable and forgettable after you leave the theatre in my opinion.
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