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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:26 PM
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Unusual water temp rise in Caribbean
I posted this in the Weather group but I'll ask it here too.

Water temps in the NW Caribbean rose 4.5 degrees in a four hour timeframe. What could cause this?

08 19 2:50 pm 91.8°
08 19 1:50 pm 90.7°
08 19 12:50 pm 89.2°
08 19 11:50 am 88.0°
08 19 10:50 am 87.3°

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056&unit=E&tz=CST
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:28 PM
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1. geothermal vent?
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:28 PM
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2. Underwater alien spaceship?
:) :hi:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:31 PM
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3. Shit, isn't this the big pre-disaster moment in . . .
The Day After Tomorrow?
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:33 PM
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4. Hope not n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:34 PM
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6. Imagine what I'm thinking
here in the Northern Caribbean. Damn this is cause for concern.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:33 PM
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5. Is it freezing in New York yet?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:39 PM
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8. Holy shit, you're right-
That movie scared the hell out of me.
I wish someone who knows about these things
would post to this thread.
Yikes, it sounds really bad, but we
can all hope it's not, eh?
Wishful thinking out loud,
BHN
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:38 PM
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7. Geothermal heat source or possibly man-made using thermal nuclear
...devices. Why? Weather control maybe, manufacturing hurricanes...I would not put it past the Bush Administration to pull a stunt like that given all of the secrecy during the last 5 1/2 years.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:44 PM
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9. An Eddy Off The Stream Will Do It Every Time
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 07:46 PM by ThomWV
I watch sea surface temperatures all the time, its something advid off-shore fishermen do. Its not all that uncommon to see big jumps when a small eddy spins off the Gulf Stream, or the Florida Stream as the case may be.

Anyway it happens all the time, if you can catch one just right it can be great for the fishing right on the edge.

PS: When you are right on top of the change in a boat you wouldn't believe how much different it is on one side to the other. Sometimes in the space of 5 or 10 feet the temperature will jump 10 degrees, the water color will change, and fish pile up on the boundry. Happy time!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:47 PM
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10. Thanks for telling us-
I'm glad to hear it is nothing unusual!
Every day I wake up wondering what fresh hell
we will learn of next...
BHN
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:03 PM
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11. Interesting
It was being discussed on a weather forum I visit and they seemed to think it was rather unusual.

Thanks for the input. I'm still gonna keep an eye on that area for anything strange.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:09 PM
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12. Might Be In That Area
You see them all the time off the East Coast, and I know they sometimes swing toward the inside of the stream as well. If you go to Rutgers web site they may still show sea surface temperatures for the entire Atlantic, you can watch the eddys spin off. I used to time fishing trips by watching them, and I have a friend down in Virginia who watches every day as well. If we'd see an eddy spin off the stream we'd try to figure when it would get within reach of some place like Hatteras and then go try to find it.

When you get on one you'll usually catch fish. Small bait fish are generally unable to withstand fast temperature changes so as a school moves along when they hit one of the boundaries they just stack up. That concentration caused by the temperature change allows large predators to feed with a minimum of energy expenditure. So when you find the temperature break you find fish. There is also often a salinity difference at the same time. It can really be a quite spectacular sight. It is the only thing I regret about aging; the thought that I won't be able to get out them for very much longer. It is beauty beyond explanation.
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:13 PM
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13. Thanks for the tip about the fish. Getting my gear ready tonight. n/t
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:19 PM
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15. Sounds great
I would love to spend time out on the water. Wish I had a boat.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:15 PM
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14. We often see that kind of phenomenon in "our" lake
it's fresh water of course but the baitfish ("shad" around here) congregate right at the boundaries
and the 'eating' fish chase them. (We can usually see the shad jumping as they try to escape the
predators) :D
It's a good spot to catch white bass which are yum.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:20 PM
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16. Ooh, I love white bass
Tasty!
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:39 PM
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17. probobly just a minor geothermal nuclear device
nothing to lose any sleep over.....................
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:45 PM
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18. I could explain it to you, but let's say my oath I took as a sub service
sailor prevents it...
:silly:

It is called a "thermal layer," and subs really do use it to help remain undetected.
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