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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:19 AM Original message |
WP: "Did no one teach these kids basic English?" |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. How does one explain the inability of our president to speak English? |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I don't know -- he went to, and graduated from, some of our best schools! |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I wonder what his Sat score was or would be.... |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. 1260 |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. According to his Yale transcript, 1206 - 566 verbal, 640 scores. Scores |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. the one person never named in the BFEE body count is the person who |
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agentkgb (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
88. Favorite Book |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. he doesn't read... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
98. This is a professor at Elon College in NC who advocates Bush NCLB Program! |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. You can lead a chimp to school, but you can't make him learn. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. I'm a lousy speaker. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. most kids aren't going to read for pleasure |
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keroro gunsou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. why bother. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. we have a shit culture. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. What you say is true, if a parent doesn't read, a kid won't read. But... |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Have you tried comic books or how-to books for your son? |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. A good point - sometimes non-fiction is more appealing than fiction for |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. No, I've never even thought of trying comic books. And you know what, |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Comic books did it for me. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. I thought you said you had 4 girls and one boy |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
75. Ohhhhhh yeah, step brother. Not my kid. Patrick's son from a previous |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. you know what's done it for my son? girls... that's right those girls have |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Here are some resources that might help: |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Thank you. Believe me, more people than myself have tried working |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I am assuming that learning disabilities have been ruled out, correct? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. He draws for hours on end? |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
77. Those of us who read for pleasure, relaxation, and/or escape really |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
79. How old is your son? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. He's 13, will be 14 in a month. A freshman in high school this year. That |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
80. Does the school have extra-curricular reading?? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. Actually, I've found the reverse, to some extent. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You're right, ulysses. So many houses are devoid of books. nt |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. it amazes me that people don't get that. |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I couldn't agree more. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. IIRC, the American Booksellers Association... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
85. heh. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. We've cut funding for schools for decades |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. A lot of smart kids hate homework and refuse to do it |
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Glorfindel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. "Refuse to do it?" I hope the little snots get "F's" |
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ReverendDeuce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I couldn't DISagree more... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. In AP history, I quit doing worksheets when I found out that |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Amen to that! And in my day grammar |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Shit, I didn't do homework. I was a waste of time. Still got A's and B's |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Back in my day |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. back in your day |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Which still doesn't mean that it should be that easy to get |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I could argue that doing well on bullshit assignments |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Oh yes. Must condition them to be obedient drones |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
68. Right on! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. Funny, it didn't work that way for me |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. The number of educated citizens is far to high. |
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Glorfindel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. FAR "to" high - you're exactly right |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. I wonder how the kids can be taught basic english when, at least in my |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. For further elaboration on this thesis, check out the writings of John |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. It's from the top down ,Shrub is a prime example. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. Schools don't teach pronouns or prepositions |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Schools DO teach pronouns and prepositions |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Yeah, second graders |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. Personal insults. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I did not insult you at all |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You are not a parent of a student in my class |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I asked you a question |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. I remember diagramming sentences! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Everyone knows better than the actual teachers |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Thanks. Your post |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
86. ding! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. I think grammar is still taught in High Schools |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I check my kids' schoolwork |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. They still do in some school districts |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That's good to hear |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
95. I did. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. An anecdote: Every Halloween... |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Wow -- I don't know why your story surprises me. Sad, isn't it? nt |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. years ago, a friend of mine asked why I wouldn't go out with him-- I told |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. I have a similar anecdote. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. Easy now... |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
33. There is a direct correlation in success in life, at all levels, with ... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
37. As one of the people who will be greeting first year students in a college |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
39. Geography lacking too |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. I am going to make damn sure my kids know how to diagram a sentence. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
47. A lot of the straight A students I knew in HS cheated their asses off |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. i knew a few more in college, too |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. fraternities and sororities |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
52. Has anyone stopped to think that homework might be the problem? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
84. That was my experience as well. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
54. Are these kids alowed in "English Only Spoken Here" establishments? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
66. I find it hard to believe it could be that bad. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
90. you may find it hard to believe, but it really IS that bad. check out how |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. How many offer basic English is not the issue |
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dollydew (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
69. Basic English |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I think you're right, make people want to know |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's called the boob tube |
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Fountain79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. Some points I think have summed it up well here... |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
87. I go with Mr. Heinlein on this one. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. It's a generation of kids raised on the do-over |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
89. The phenomenon I've noticed is that of middle class parents |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
92. That's one accurate reason. |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
94. My son just had to take placement tests |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
96. I would totally disagree re: the SAT |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-20-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
99. Oh, for God's sake! |
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