Rove: GOP to Use Terror As Campaign Issue

[cyberpj]

No! Ya Think?!
Maybe because THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE!

WASHINGTON - Embattled White House adviser Karl Rove vowed Friday to make the war on terrorism a central campaign issue in November.

He also said Democratic senators looked "mean-spirited and small-minded" in questioning Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

"Republicans have a post-9/11 view of the world. And Democrats have a pre-9/11 view of the world," Rove told Republican activists. "That doesn't make them unpatriotic, not at all. But it does make them wrong — deeply and profoundly and consistently wrong."


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[Initech]

1. I wish they would fucking stop using 9/11 for their own gain!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[nini]

4. fear is all they have

They've fucked up everything else so fear is the only card left to keep playing.


I agree :nuke:

[Initech]

11. Yup, they play off the fears of the stupid.

That's really the only way they can keep winning elections.

Oh and some more: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Ignacio Upton]

2. Check out this photo of KKKarl:

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"Thank Osam...er God, for this terrorist tape."

[Oreo]

here it isillegal codemakeRemote('duboard.php?az=html_table')

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[liveoaktx]

3. Republicans look mean-spirited and small-minded in trying to link OBL with

Dems.

Republicans look mean-spirited and small-minded by saying that Democrats don't have a post-911 mindset but want to see the law upheld, particularly by the President.

[rsmith6621]

5. Hopefully Short Circuited By a Fitzgerald GJ

Idictement.......Rove is such an asshole.

[sharp_stick]

6. Fuck I hate Karl Rove

One of the most despicable and evil cocksuckers on the planet.

[DanCa]

7. See more reasons why the obl tape is fake.

DTA Dont trust this administration.

[Skidmore]

12. A Rove production.

[ktlyon]

30. I also do not believe a word they say but

I have a hard time believing the WH wrote the OBL tape, they are not that good

[robbedvoter]

8. Not bad for Fournier! Explains the OBL tape too.

i thought you revived a November 2004 article....

[cyberpj]

17. Yer right...the headline COULD have been revived from 2004. Meanwhile...

Ya gotta love this part:

Rove, making a rare public address while under investigation in the CIA leak case, joined Republican Party chairman Ken Mehlman in warning GOP leaders against falling prey to the corrupting nature of power.

:rofl:

[cyberpj]

23. kick

[Skidmore]

9. For people with a 9/11 world view, they sure suck on

security issues, don't they. Turn it back on them. Open borders, no OBL, no body armor for troops, billions missing in Iraq, Katrina response, ....

Back at ya Karl. We don't feel safer.

[stepnw1f]

10. What a Genius... NOT

Yes Rove... keep doing it. You are doing such a great job in exposing the Neo-Con agenda. Rove is nothing but a Partisan fanatical meglomaniac.

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. I'm terrified of what Rove and the GOP will do to this country.

Your time is up, fat boy.

You'll be out in '06 - or in the slammer.

[dusmcj]

14. Sieg Heil, Ich habe ein post 9/11 Weltanschauung!!! Heil Bush, Heil Bush!!

Die Fahne hoch, die Reihen eng geschlossen.
SA marschiert, mit ruhigem festem Schritt.

Ich bin eine Georgenfuehrer und ich commande Dich to sagen Heil George Heil George Heil George.

Heil Mein Bush.

You vill obey mine Bushen Authori - tie. Heil Mein Bush!!! Jawohl!!!

Present your papers, your Party card unt, your blood group at ze door!!! Heil!

Fat little pig would look like he stepped right out of a Gauleiters' meeting, we just need to get him one of those peaked caps and officer's greatcoats. I'll find a Death's Head to put on the hat and we'll mail it to him. Ein Parteibonse, or a party apparatchik in good English. Political commissar straight outta Moscow ca. 1942 would work too.

[NanceGreggs]

15. You're right, KKKarl ...

"Democrats have a pre-9/11 view of the world ..."

That's because they remember a robust economy, respect for the US around the world, peace, social programs to assist the poor, separation of church and state, citizens' rights to privacy, transparency of government, fair tax laws, good jobs that paid fair wages, laws that don't enrich corporations at the expense of the citizenry ...

... you know, all of that stuff you Neo-Cons used 9/11 as an excuse to destroy!

[MrBenchley]

16. That would be the same Karl Rove who broke a CIA agent's cover

Yeah, that's gonna work....

[linazelle]

18. Ya knowww....this man, on the verge of criminal indictment

has been laying low for several months. Now he comes out swinging the day after his manufactured OBL tape is aired and thinks all if forgotten. I suppose they taped enough of Fitzgerald's conversations to feel confident enough they can wiggle out of the treason charges.

All I have to say is, we know who you are and we know what you did Rove. It has not fallen into the memory hole. So go back into your hole.

[lvx35]

19. I am proudly pre-9/11

Ask yourself:

Did the peace march before the Iraq war change the world?
Did the lawful indictment of criminals in the last few years change the world?
Did the 9/11 terrorist attacks change the world?

If, like a republican, you answered "no, no, yes" then what is the proper method to follow if YOU want to change the world?
a) peaceful protest.
b) the rule of law.
c) terrorism.

The only answer can be C, which is intolerable. 9/11 did not change the world. It was tragic and 3,000 people died. but 47,000 people died before their time in car crashes the same year. If we say that only those 3,000 mattered, than we are giving the terrorists more power than they could dream of. I say think about it.

[mzmolly]

21. Bush is the one who was supposed to be "protecting"

Americans on 911. I'm pre-Bush, aka pre-911 in my thinking as well because with effective leadership - the date 9/11 would be meaningless.

[Zenlitened]

20. Um, we have a "post-Bush FAILURE" view of the world, KKKarl.

Projection as usual, from that filthy little shit. The bush administration has been "deeply and profoundly and consistently wrong" on just about everything that's come before it.

So, naturally, KKKarl is out there projecting his own shortcomings onto us.

Will the public buy it? Will the Democrats come up with an effective way to counter it?

Stay tuned for details -- unless, of course, grotesque political manipulation of genuine national security issues preempts regular programming.

Again.


Why did Bush let bin Laden walk away?

[tanyev]

22. Stock up on plastic and duct tape.

Sounds like a big one is coming pretty soon.

[sundancekid]

24. we "have to fear is fear itself" and another national security idiot as

a Democratic candidate for anything, including dog catcher ... if we have already allowed them to frame the issue of TERRA for 5 years now (yes, that train HAS left the station), BUT STILL why the hell do we keep going to a gunfight with a banana peel????

[debbierlus]

25. When are the dems gonna call them out & call them WEAK

This is soooooooooooo easy.

Instead of playing the ME TOO - I AM STRONG, TOO

Call them out....

The GOP is weak. They are making America weak. They have bankrupted our treasury. They have had cronies taken over in crucial government positions (remember, Katrina)...

They like to say they are 'STRONG' on terror. They are WEAK on terror. They haven't protected our ports. They haven't protected our borders. They diverted our money and military in a endless quaqmire in Iraq.

All they have is fear. But, what you should be afraid of is the GOP incompetence that is making us ALL weaker....

[formercia]

26. We have a pre 9/11 view of the world

When the thought of paying off the national debt was a realistic goal.
When we were at peace and the world respected us for the most part.
When I thought my son might even have a better life than I.
When people paid less than 2 dollars a gallon for gas.
and there's a lot more I long for......

If we could only go back to pre 9/11

[UrbScotty]

29. Well said (nt)

[Plaid Adder]

27. Is there ANYONE in the country who is not yet SICK of this BULLSHIT?

I ask you.

Doesn't it offend anyone else to see this twit out there positively rubbing his hands with glee at the thought that there might be more terrorist attacks on US soil? Does he not get it that remarks like this remind everyone that our loss is his gain?

Asshole.

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder

[cyberpj]

38. Unfortunately - not the crowd that kept applauding him today.

It's just stupifying that so many don't get it.

I'm starting to think it may take a whole new generation that will have to live through the effects of this regime before America gets it.

Just that fact that they'd put him out there again, campaigning as if nothing is wrong, felt like a slap in the face. And man, I'm tired of them bitch-slapping me.

[Kablooie]

45. Only a majority of the voters aren't sick of it.

[Rex]

28. Republicans have a post-Reichstags Fire view of the world.

Thank Zod the rest of us are sane! Why did we allow these RW fundie-fascists take control over our gummit? I forget.

[cyberpj]

39. Because Senate Dems wouldn't expose national election fraud. nt

[DanCa]

31. Okay but will it work?

Really how many times can they milk the same cow?

[bonito]

32. Someone should get him a OBL skeleton

To dangle out a WH window.

[MissWaverly]

33. If ever someone deserved camp cupcake, it's Rove

Why has he not been indicted, justice De-Layed is justice De-Neyed.

[Fovea]

34. "WOLF!!!" "WOLF!!" "WOLF!"

Wolf...Wolf...wolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolf

[Clarkie1]

35. Bullcrap. I prefer THIS pre-9/11 view of the world...

Appendix H
"THE ENEMY IN YOUR HANDS"
(Reproduction of 3x5 card of instructions issued to all troops.)

THE ENEMY IN YOUR HANDS

AS A MEMBER OF THE US MILITARY FORCES, YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE GENEVA PRISONER OF WAR CONVENTIONS OF 1949 TO WHICH YOUR COUNTRY ADHERES. UNDER THESE CONVENTIONS:

YOU CAN AND WILL

DISARM YOUR PRISONER
IMMEDIATELY SEARCH HIM THOROUGHLY
REQUIRE HIM TO BE SILENT
SEGREGATE HIM FROM OTHER PRISONERS GUARD HIM CAREFULLY
TAKE HIM TO THE PLACE DESIGNATED BY YOUR COMMANDER

YOU CANNOT AND MUST NOT

MISTREAT YOUR PRISONER
HUMILIATE OR DEGRADE HIM
TAKE ANY OF HIS PERSONAL EFFECTS WHICH DO NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT MILITARY VALUE
REFUSE HIM MEDICAL TREATMENT IF REQUIRED AND AVAILABLE

ALWAYS TREAT YOUR PRISONER HUMANELY


.
KEY PHRASES
ENGLISH VIETNAMESE
Halt Dung lai
Lay down your gun Buong sung xuong
Put up your hands Dua tay len
Keep your hands on your head Dua tay len dau
I will search you Tai kham ong
Do not talk Dung noi chuyen
Walk there Lai dang kia
Turn Right Xay ben phai

Turn Left Xay ben trai
"The courage and skill of our men in battle will be matched by their magnanimity when the battle ends. And all American military action in Vietnam will stop as soon as aggression by others is stopped "
21 August 1965
Lyndon B. Johnson

More here...

www.securingamerica.com

[NAO]

36. "The Revelation of the Method" - Psychological Warfare tactic

As Michael A. Hoffman writes in his fantastic book "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare", part of the process of mass mind control and psychological warfare is to actually REVEAL what is happening. Hoffman writes:

"The occult Cryptocracy processes the Group Mind of the masses mainly through psychodrama. The alchemical and Rosicrucian command dogmas were literary works. In the course of receiving the establishment's reports and accounts of (the news), a mental virus is implanted in many percipients. The hypodermic needle in this case is nothing more startling than a campfire story, only the campfire is the crackling electrical current of a television and the story is of our extinction..."

"Independent researchers have seldom noted the significance of these revelations coming from occult groups and even advertising agencies which, in a demonstration of macabre nose-thumbing at our complete indifference to our mental enslavement, have actually pointed to the subliminals in their own liquor ads. These actions signal our entrance into an entirely different era of alchemical Process. As I wrote in Apocalypse Culture (first edition, Amok Press):

'...in the brilliant word-play of the (mythical) Masonic (figure) Dr. Syntax we come to the current unfoldment in "Must Be," an alchemical (cant language code) term Mr. (James Shelby) Downard translates as "the Revelation of the Method." This alludes to the process wherein murderous deeds and hair-raising conspiracies involving wars, revolutions, decapitations, secret archaeo-astronomic deity cult-worship, and every manner of horror show are first buried beneath a cloak of secrecy...and then, when finally accomplished and secured, slowly revealed to the unsuspecting populace who watch...deep-frozen...as the hidden history is unveiled...In the circulation of...(antiAcademy) manuscripts...the revelation of the method is accomplished. Truth or consequences...Downard ... is acutely aware that in exposing the conspirators he is probably serving the final dictum (in their alchemical formula)...'"

"If the truth of what the cryptocracy has perpetrated is grasped and acted upon, the consequences for the conspirators will be annihilation. But if the people fail to perceive the truth or fail to act on their perception, thus rendering unto the Process a kind of tacit consent born of apathy, amnesia and abulia, the consequence for the conspirators will be a giant-step in the advancement of their system of control, that is to say, ever tighter bonds of enslavement for humanity."

"Why does the cryptocracy bother to gamble so much by going public with what it is doing to us? Because consent fuels their control like no other form of energy."

- from Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.

[spanone]

37. Criminal. Fucking Criminal.

To use a war, where soldiers have given thier lives, as a political tool is criminal.

[many a good man]

40. I have a "pre-9/11 view" of the Constitution!

There ought to be a law against our government using Pys-Ops tactics against our own people.

[malaise]

41. Will Osama appear at their campaigns or

will he just send audio and video tapes. My tin foil hat mode tells me they will do anything to win. Hopefully they will be caught this time.

[SillyGoose]

42. This could be a bonanza for the Dems if they handle it right.

It could backfire big time in the repubs faces. Osama is still on the loose making tapes threatening more attacks 4 years after 9/11, Iraq is a mess, the DHS is an expensive joke that couldn't manage to adequately respond to a hurricane never mind a terror attack and we haven't heard the last about the Plame case. Also, Rove lecturing people about ethics and national security is a gift that will keep on giving.

[davsand]

43. How will we know when the "War on Terra" is won?

I really want somebody to ask that question in public. Will the "war" be won when we all feel safer?

Is it a GOP definition of "safer" that we all are supposed to live houses wrapped in duct tape and plastic?

Are we "safer" if we have some bogus color wheel to tell us when to panic?

Are we more "secure" if we have a government that feels it is appropriate to eavesdrop on its citizens and hold them indefinitely without trial or access to counsel?

Can you call it "security" to know that your own nation can deport you if someone determines you are a "threat"?

Are we free from "terra" when our own government uses forged documents to try and gain world acceptance (not approval, mind you) for the invasion of another nation?

Are we somehow more "secure" because our rate of inflation exceeds any increases in the cost of living or when we have our own citizens dying from lack of access to health care and prescriptions?
----

When they can give me answers to those questions maybe I'll see KKK Karl as being a bit more grounded in reality.



Laura

[cyberpj]

44. GOTTA PREP THE PEEPS FOR THIS NEW SS FORCE! CHECK THIS OUT:

New Patriot Act creates the “Secret Service, Uniformed Division

America has never had a federal police force, but hidden in the new “Patriot” Act is language that creates just such a beast.

SEC. 605. THE UNIFORMED DIVISION, UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE.

There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the `United States Secret Service Uniformed Division’.

The Secret Service, Uniformed Division will not operate solely in DC, but anywhere former Presidents travel, or foreign dignitaries, or even “as the President, on a case-by-case basis, may direct.” #8

A federal police force, directed by the President. Is this not the Gestapo all over again?

If the new “Patriot” Act passes, the new SSUD federal police can show up at:

(11) An event designated.. as a special event of national significance.
(12) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election…

A federal goon squad on hand to arrest any ‘disruptors’ during the next Presidential Election… how can you look in the mirror and tell yourself that there’s hope for 2008? Or is that just an excuse to continue doing nothing right now?

Note: This bill comes up in two weeks
http://benfrank.net/blog /

AND HERE'S A GREAT FLYER TO PRINT AND DISTRIBUTE AT WILL (while you can):
http://benfrank.net/blog/f/gestapo.pdf

[Kablooie]

46. But the American people need a gestapo ...

to keep them from critisizing our great and glorious leader.
Only a gestapo could do that and of course it's necessary to keep the terroists from attacking us again.


-- sarcasm -- if you did't notice.

[Cha]

47. Fucking Bring It, Asshole!

We'll talk about how you were ASLEEP when 9/11 went down..and how you just happen to after the wrong butcher and osama is still make you look like craven derelicts..4 1/2 years later!

No WMD..over 2000 of our Soldiers killed for a War On Iraq based on your Lies and as many as 100,000 Iraqi Civilians killed with your Bombs.