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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 08:50 AM Original message |
I almost have to agree with this article - we need to reinstate the draft |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. And what about the lives of the people getting drafted? They are just |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That's why I said "almost" |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
44. I do care about the war and its consequences......... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
98. I totally agree |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. A national draft without exemptions (other than disabilities)..... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes by all means lets kidnap America's children |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I know, for whatever reason, you are angry at the very thought. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The government is not advocating a draft |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. The government has their eye on November. After that, all bets |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Seriously, what will stop Bush from enacting the draft in 2007 |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. As bellicose as this bunch is, a draft would not surprise me |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Go to the Quaker website |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. THEY haven't closed the borders to Canada, yet.......... |
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Pugee (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Canada wont be an option this time due to a 2001 "border declaration" |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. THEY have thought of ALMOST everything where initiating war.......... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. And what about the children being kidnapped now |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Not this idiocy again. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. The Swiss have a universal mandatory draft that no one gets |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Who did the Swiss ever fight? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. We should resolve to only fight whom the Swiss fight. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. In some alternate universe. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Then stop the war machine. Good citizens who have the |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
58. The Swiss have a centuries long tradition of neutrality |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I am not determined to send them anywhere. If the US is |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #65 |
83. You are enabling the government to take our kids. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. Your kids are not being forced to fight and kill, but OUR kids are. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. You know me personally? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. So seriously, what the hell is happening now |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've said this before and been (mildly) flamed for it. But a real |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Then send YOUR kids |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I don't want to send any kids, anywhere. I think that if you say |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
84. THANK YOU!!!! |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. you have an idealized vision of what a drafted army would mean |
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soup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Do your children share your sentiments? n/t |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. One does, one doesn't. |
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soup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Thanks for the reply. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Both of my kids are ardently and vocally anti-war. They are both |
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soup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
105. "too outspoken for his own good" |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. I want to end this war. I want to reduce the size of the Pentagon |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. I'm with you on this Dhalgren. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
124. I agree with you... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. Not going to end war |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. the problem is that the kids are the ones who are already awake |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
13. If you are against the war then don't enable the war mongers. |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
94. The neo-con agenda... |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
125. They have studied it and know it would stop them... |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. Bush could reinstate the draft, and still lose the Iraq War. |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
95. The Iraq "war" IS unwinnable... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
17. conyers has the bill already to submit to the house to restore the draft |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. That's Rangal's bill |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. thanks- i thought it was conyers |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
21. You're right |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
24. If the administration really wanted to |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Won't happen until after 2007 |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
25. I understand what you are saying. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I hope you have plans for them in case of the draft |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. I have been saying this for a while |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
32. NO, NO, NO and.....NO to a draft. There have always been exceptions... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Draft Every Member of Congress, Let Them Serve in Rotated Shifts... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. My hope is the Rangel Draft bill would be passed |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. My child is not fighting in illegal immoral wars......... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #48 |
68. I don't want your kids to fight in it either |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I'm tired of that too..... |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Even if there are exceptions, the unexceptional will be mobilized at last |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
38. the draft will be the tripwire for people in the streets--kids won't go |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
39. I think your premise is wrong: "It's clear that the average Mr. & Mrs.... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You have valid points but might I add.... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I am in complete agreement with your statement, here: |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
45. A draft would just further PNAC. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
66. How would a draft further PNAC? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. It would give them the warm bodies needed to go forward with Iran |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Yeah but the Congress cares if they're in the streets. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Until Dem get control of both Houses, I wouldn't chance it. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
46. an alternative to the draft . . . it's called ending the war . . . n/t |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
47. We lost Vietnam even with a draft... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. The US will NEVER win a war in the Middele East or a War against |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. It wouldn't wake up the country...it would mean more wars of "distraction. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
49. Easy for you to say, or is it? |
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Divameow77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #49 |
76. What would the limitations be? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I really don't know where they would draw the line, |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
51. The Iraq War/Occupation is illegal, unjust and was based on 100% lies. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
52. As long as these poor dupes keep signing up ... let them |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. You never, NEVER served, or you would not nake |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Then why are some of them still signing up? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Food and a roof over their families' heads are one reason. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Some of these 'poor dupes' had little other options with their lives |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
99. Recruiters are prominent at a job center in my city... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
55. The Rangel camp. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Since the Civil War |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. It may not end them |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
80. you are threatening my children's lives. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
113. Not at all. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. The elites will always have an out. |
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oc2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
77. Proposing a reinstatement of the draft is POLITICAL SUICIDE. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
78. Sorry, but I think that this is a horrible idea |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
81. Rangel has lost all my respect. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. But understand where Rangel is coming from |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
82. I disagree 100%. Do this and I'll be a criminal or Canadian. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
86. The draft would move people from the apathy... |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
120. That's exactly the wrong reason to have a draft. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
87. I am against a draft |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #87 |
118. Best thing to do is turn this over to the UN |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
88. I'd be on a plane to New Zealand with my babies... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Hell I'd take my nephews and join you there |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. It scares me so much Lynne... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I know, but imagine if your kids were over there right now |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
92. What did LBJ call it when he pulled us out of Vietnam? |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. "Peace with honor" sounds right... |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
96. Please don't fall for this! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Rangel's bill has NOTHING to do with wanting a draft |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Right--Rangel's draft bill says NO EXEMPTIONS FOR ANYONE |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I think Rangel has gone so far to have a few votes on it |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Whatever his outward motivations seem to be, the result is that |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Only person reading stuff into it is you |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Thanks for not falling into ad hominem (or is that ad feminam) attacks. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. It scares me to the bejesus that I could be |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. I think we both understand how the politics works |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
97. How many kids will have to DIE... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
111. "and they are wagering that the American people don't care either" |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
101. Will my child have to die to end this war? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. My heart goes out to you |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. What the hell do you think is happening in this country |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
110. You can't have a draft without exemptions. And the rich will get them |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-24-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
119. Not my sons! Not for bushit's wars. Not ever! |
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