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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:18 PM
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How will the demotion of Pluto as a planet affect astrologists?
Will they start backpeddling? spinning another story that "we didn't really need Pluto" anyway? Kuiper belt objects will do just fine thanks very much.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:26 PM
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1. It's like everything else--they'll make shit up.
Astrology is undoubtedly the worst pseudo-science.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:29 PM
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6. After Freemarketism, perhaps
And we can throw in Creationism and the Myers-Briggs Test Instrument, while we're at it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 03:26 PM
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14. At least they won't be making up shit like the word "astrologists"
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 03:26 PM by SpiralHawk
They'll probably do the correct and wise thing, as usual, and call themselves astrologers...and leave the trash-talking opinions to the willfully uninformed.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:31 PM
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19. Huzzah!
Well said!
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:26 PM
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2. Simple: It won't.
Pluto and it's influences are simply too powerful to ignore. Astronomers can do whatever they want. It won't at all change the essences of what Pluto represents, death and transformation.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:30 PM
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8. LOL.
So how did astrologers account for these powerful influences back before astronomers discovered Pluto?

And what do all of the hundreds of Pluto-like objects represent?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:28 PM
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3. Will the failure of Christ to return affect fundamentalists?
Nope. They'll simply re-examine their prophetic materials, revamp their statements and get ready for the next armageddon.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:33 PM
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10. You've described the ultimate Missal Defense System
And people said that it would never work!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:28 PM
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4. The "best" explanation of Astrology that I've ever heard...
Granted, that's like saying "the best explanation of the Tooth Fairy that I've ever heard," but bear with me.

The obvious question is "how the hell can planets and stars, the latter lightyears distant, affect what goes on here?"

The answer, according a friend and self-professed Astrologer, is that they don't. Instead, they respond to the same forces and cycles that govern us terrans, so the planets and stars are useful indicators of astrological data, rather than sources of it.

As an explanation, that sounds groovy to me. It's all nonsense AFAIC, but as long as the astrologer isn't harming anyone by her predictions, so be it.


And as for Pluto, I predict that its demotion will be of little significance among astrologers. They'll still make vague and non-verifiable predictions and will still be praised for their accuracy.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:29 PM
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5. Shouldn't they have known this was gonna happen?
It's like the psychic place nearly by here...only by appointment.

I mean shes a psychic, shouldn't she know when you are coming without you having to tell her first?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:30 PM
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7. Well, if you show up for your appointment, then she *does* know
Oooh--spooky! :scared:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 03:28 PM
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15. Youbetcha -- Neptune is opposite Saturn right now.
perfecting at the end of August, and symbolizing all of the above. So there you go...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:32 PM
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9. If Your Moon Is In Libra and Your Head Is Up Your Ass It Will Matter
Otherwise, back to work ....
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:41 PM
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11. Well, Pluto has little effect on an individual's chart
Plus, the whole thing is based on an earth centered cosmos. If astrology can overlook that, the demotion of one planet sure won't slow 'em down.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:53 PM
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12. it's pretty wild to see how even people who can
be totally in agreement on one thing, as in "bush is an idiot", can on the other hand believe in things like this. FWIW, I think you can get the same results from any astrologer as you could from the Yellow pages. There ain't no "there" there.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:30 PM
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18. If you've ever had a pluto transit, you won't soon forget it! lol
I'm still calling Pluto a planet, cuz that's one mutha you just don't want to anger
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 02:35 PM
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13. Whew! I'm glad I read that a little closer. I thought you said
demolition!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:52 PM
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16. And what about Gemini's and Vigo's suffering under Planet Mercury...
It's the Virgo's that don't fit in that one...still looking for their own Planet that won't make them so "nervous and wonky." :-(
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:02 PM
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17. I guess they'll have to dig up some old crap from before it was
discovered! :D
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:32 PM
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20. Here in our Elementary school...
kids are taking it pretty hard. They loved the planet named after a Disney Character.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:44 PM
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21. Ask quaoar.
Heck of a DUer.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:11 PM
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22. Easy, they'll just make more shit up and insist it's true.
"BUT IT IS!!!111!! Relly reaally TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"

Laughable nonsense. I hope I never learn any of those I respect actually BELIEVE that bullshit, it would be sad to hear.

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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:20 PM
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23. Real science beats junk science any day.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 08:22 PM by sleipnir
I just don't understand how people can believe the system of astrology that uses the universe as its base set, an enormously complex system that even legitimate scientists and researchers don't understand.

And it boggles my mind how people get sucked into believing all the crap that the fancy fortune tellers give them on a daily basis. But then, Scientology sure does have a lot of people paying money to a small number of people. Humans are easily duped by fanciful and easy explanations.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:30 PM
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24. They can just replace it with Goofy


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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:55 PM
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25. I doubt it will affect them at all
Pluto is still there, whatever it's called. And it was only discovered in the 1930s -- astrology is a lot older than that, so I think it's never been too concerned with Pluto anyway.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:50 AM
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26. It won't
As long as some people are:

A) Told whatever they want to hear by astrologers

and/or

B) Willing to pay astrologers for "advice"

Then the the pseudoscience will continue.
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