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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:32 PM
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Black Conservatives and The Myth of Sisyphus
As we get close to the anniversary of Katrina and to Election Day, we have our eyes focused on a lot of things. Most of the important things are well covered on DU. Senate and House races, breaking news and intelligent discussion about the ills afflicting our nation is well represented DU. But one thing I would like to talk about is the tragic specter of the Black Conservative. As we head into these important elections, we need not forget their contributions.

When this current administration was (elected\selected), you could almost feel the excitement rise within the so-called "Black Conservative" movement. You could feel the sensation that, after all these years of supporting almost every single position that Black America found offensive, their time had come. Bush appointed a Black man to be Secretary of State, a Black Woman to head up the National Security Agency.

And things went well for awhile. Mr. Powell went to the UN with his charts and PowerPoint presentation and he did us folks from the Bronx very “proud”. Dr. Rice took it to another level: It was a new ball game in town. We will protect our citizens in a manner that has never been done. We are going to kick ass and take names and a sista is running the show. And all was well for awhile.....

Then the wheels began to fall off.

It's a funny thing how the ugly curtains you hang in your front windows may come back to haunt you. Mr. Powell's PowerPoint’s weren’t as accurate they should have been. And Dr. Rice couldn't have been expected to believe that an extremist would fly a jet into the WTC. (Even after she was shown the memo). But they were "Black Conservatives". They represented a new face to Black folks and a new opportunity. We didn't have to worship at the alter of Democrats or Liberals anymore.

Within every ethnic group that has made this country their home, there has always been an unspoken creed: You always want your own to do well. So while Condoleezza represented the Black face of an administration that Black Americans hated, we were muted in our criticism of Ms. Rice. We may have slammed the Bush administration but Condi, for better or worse, was one of ours.

Even when thousands of our people were stranded and left to die in NOLA while Condi shopped for shows and took in Broadway plays, she was still given a pass. We saved our vitriol for Bush. And when she couldn’t leave well enough alone and actually had the nerve to say that Bush “really did like Black people”. A lot of us still bit our collective tongues. She was held out to us an example of the new Black politician: an example of what we should all strive for.

And now we come to the Middle East. Chaos all around. Innocents on both sides of the conflict being cut down with barely an afterthought. And Condi is sent to fix it up. And what does she do: She fucks up!. She is seen as weak and ineffectual. Sometimes even scared. And the best part is that many of the same White conservatives who hailed her as brilliant are now lambasting her as “incompetent” and “unqualified”. We don’t hear any more “Condi for President” talk, do we?

And now, in the moment that should have been her defining performance on the world stage, she has the aura of a poor girl who got wooed by the rich guy from across the tracks only to find out that he only wanted a piece of ass. And all of the people from her side of the tracks, upon who she looked down with disdain can only shake their heads and say “Condi, we told you so”. She got used. She got played.

Ken Blackwell, who had absolutely no problem stealing the very votes that many of our people died for, has just hired LeBron James’s ex-publicist to help him get his message out to the Black Community. So Blackwell hires someone to extol his virtues to demographic from who he steals votes from on Election Day. My question is will he have enough working voting machines in those districts on Election Day? If not, how’s he going to know that his money was well spent? Oh, the webs we weave.

Herman Cain has now decided that Wal-Mart needs to be protected against the evil liberals. A company where many of the employees are poor and many are Black and are not paid a wage worth speaking about, is worthy of his sympathy. When was the last time Herman Cain visited a ghetto or a rural area with no hope, no prospects and no future.

And is Lynn Swann still running for office??? As a republican??? How’s that going

We are a forgiving people, you can always come home.

In mythology, there is a figure named Sisyphus. He did something to piss off the gods and as punishment he was banished to push a long rock up a mountain all day. Just before he reached the summit, the rock would roll back down. So he would spend the next day pushing it back up the hill again. And he did this for eternity.

Black conservatives: tragic figures rolling rocks uphill.



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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:39 PM
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1. Hmm. Sisyphus...
you may remember, was originially locked up in chains. He tricked his captors out of his chains, and his punishment for this crime was the rock thing.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:46 PM
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2. Makes it more interesting...
doesn't it?

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:49 PM
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5. Sure.
People in chains being oppressed. Thinking they can get out of the chains by voting Republican.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:47 PM
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3. Sort of like my sig line?
B-)
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:54 PM
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7. Yeah
except for tham, it's a long brutal task that isolates them everyday
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:34 PM
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11. Uh huh.
And I'm a little sympathic to that little guy in the cartoon.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:48 PM
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4. link?
are these your words?
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:53 PM
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6. Are these my words???
The post or something in it?

I wrote the OP but I did refer to some things that I did not provide a link for.

Please elaborate and I'll answer
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:58 PM
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8. There's no such thing as a Black Conservative.
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 06:59 PM by jaysunb
Those given that acknowlegement are Black opportunists for the most part, with a smaller portion of them being mentally unstable.( Stockholm Syndrome )
As I've said on this board since it's inception, " there is nothing in Americas' history that, ANY Black person would want to conserve."

This was a beautiful summation - as you correctly surmised - of an issue that rarely gets an honest review. Thank you.

BTW, I loved your analogy of Condi being an easy lay from across the tracks, and I've used it often myself. But I also use it in terms of Blacks voting for Democrats as well.....:evilfrown:
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:05 PM
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9. I agree
It's always been my gut feeling that if we gathered all of the speaking engagements of Black "Conservatives" along with a record of where they wrote articles etc, that the majority of the audiences they spoke to would be White and Conservative.

If you strongly feel that you have found a new political way for your people, it would seem logical that you would be spreading this gospel among the poeple

I have no empirical proof of this. Just a gut feeling.


But I betch I'm right

And I understand you're last line, but I ain't gonna touch it with a 10 foot pole. Least not tonight.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:32 PM
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10. Heh Heh !
Yes, it's best we focus on one thing at a time. :toast:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:07 PM
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21. Yes, there is, but not in this country
Maybe in countries like Jamaica, African nations, or other predominantly black countries, but in the United States, black conservative is like military intelligence: an oxymoron.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 11:30 PM
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12. yes.....
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 11:32 PM by shanti
i just wanted to commend you on an excellent, well-written post. this issue is seldom addressed on du, at least from what i've seen.

peace
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:39 AM
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15. Thank You n/t
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:45 AM
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16. And the sad thing is that.........
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 03:48 AM by BronxBoy
when we look back at the historic moment when a President appointed 2 Black cabinet memebers, it will have been for what is turning out to be the worst Presidency in history. And these 2 cabinent members will have figured prominently in one of the worst moves among all of it's bad moves: the declaration of war against a country that didn't do a single thing to us.

A war that is slowly sucking the life out of our liberties, our economy and our country.

What a way to make history
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 11:44 PM
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13. K&R. Do you have a journal? Kind Sir, you should make one.
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 11:46 PM by BlueIris
Just sayin'.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 12:33 AM
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14. Excuse me; I don't believe we've met,
but I'm bleever, and I'm pleased to make your acquaintance.

Thank you for this fine post.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 12:49 PM
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17. Kick for morning crowd.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 01:35 PM
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18. My assessment
The majority of blacks who describe themselves as conservatives strike me as one thing, people who want to emulate rich, white males which conservatism deems to be the only group that matters at all, everyone means nothing.
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:44 PM
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19. It makes me very sad
Not for people like Condi, because I don't believe she's a true black woman anyway. But for the few ordinary, working black "conservatives" who still think they have to obey their masters on the plantation. With the blatant rascism exhibited by the right, I cannot fathom why any black could possibly be enticed to them. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they still think that whitey is the master and they have to do what whitey says. We need to embrace progressive, independent minded blacks like Cynthia McKinney.
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DocSavage Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:03 PM
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20. Just
a question. Do you also think that any other minority that votes republican is submitting to the slave/master mentality? How about conservative Chinese, or Hispanics? How about Jews that vote republican? THey have gotten the wrong end of the stick once or twice, are they just ignorant because of all the opression or what?

There is often stereotypes of rich people on this board, greedy, rich repubs. Seems to me that the democratic party has thier fair share of rich voters, do you hear republicans calling them names because they support democratic candidates? If the goal of the democratic party is to attract voters, which I am sure it is, insulting black conservatives is not a way to do it (IMO). And as far as the "True Black Women" statement, do tell me how a true black woman is suppose to act?
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:09 PM
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22. I think its true for all who vote repug
I dont think that that many people can all be acting rationally when they support the repug policies...the reason for this comes in different forms...a lot of it has to do with the constant cries of "terra terra terra" that helps the fascists to keep their hold on power. I think most conservatives are full of fear, and follow the dear leader like sheep.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:13 PM
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23. Yeah, I hate it when blacks don't act the way blacks are supposed to.
You'd think they'd learn by now. :eyes:

What a disgusting OP. :puke:
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:05 AM
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24. What's so disgusting about it?
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 07:07 AM by BronxBoy
No where in my post did I say that Blacks had to act any particular way.

If Black conservatives want to subscribe to that philosophy (and I'm talking about the current form of conservatism) that's fine. But as a member of the Black race, I feel I get the right to call them on their bullshit.

I find the fact that Ken Blackwell has hired someone to reach out to a demographic audience that during the 2004 election he worked pretty damn hard to disenfranchise more disgusting than anything I wrote.

But I guess we should dismiss the fact that he stifled a right his people paid for in blood to further the agenda of a party that hasn't been anything but hostile to our interests as Blackwell being a free spirit.
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