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Mon Aug-28-06 02:40 PM
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Breaking on MSNBC.com: KUSA TV: 2 sources say Karr DNA sample doesn't |
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match Ramsey sample. Here's the link to story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/KUSA also reported that the Boulder County District Attorney's office will drop the charges against Karr.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:40 PM
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1. Wow, I'm so suprised.... n/t |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:42 PM
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it was bullshit from the start.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:41 PM
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The guy is a weirdo, but there was too much showing that he wasn't involved.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:42 PM
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3. Knock me over with a feather! |
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I am so terribly surprised at this turn of events, or perhaps NOT.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:42 PM
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4. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Investigative journalism at its finest! |
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AND WE SHOULD NOW KEEP HEARING ABOUT THIS GUY WHY?
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:43 PM
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11. Because some CU journalism professor pulled him out of a hat |
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to further some kind of obsession he has.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:57 PM
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29. Don't forget Lou Smit's obsession, too |
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I doubted Karr's story from the get-go... but as soon as I heard the infamous prof AND Lou Smit was involved, I was like fuggetabouit.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:16 PM
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38. Figures. They've both been into some kind of intruder |
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theory from the beginning.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:17 PM
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:55 PM
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46. And I suppose you're rabidly AGAINST any kind of intruder theory? |
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:06 PM
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49. It doesn't matter what I'm for or against. |
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I lived in the area at the time. I've passed that house many times. When this horrible murder happened, the Boulder police bungled a lot, but it looked as if nobody had entered the house. There were no signs of forced entry. And I can't exactly fault Boulder law enforcement--there hadn't been many murders in Boulder.
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:16 PM
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50. You have just taken the time to blashpheme two people you don't... |
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know for having a theory that you purportedly believe is false - the intruder theory. Are they not permitted a different view than yours?
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:30 PM
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53. I don't know that it's false, but it seems unlikely. |
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And of course they're permitted to believe whatever they want to believe. So no, I haven't blasphemed them. I just find their intruder theory unlikely based on the facts of the case.
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:08 PM
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57. Did you not write earlier that the CU prof... |
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pulled this man out of a hat in order to "further some obsession he has?"
And didn't another poster follow up that Smit also had an obsession with the intruder theory?
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:24 PM
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60. T^hat was me -- Smit DOES have an obsession with the intruder theory |
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He believes the Ramseys couldn't have done it because they were such good Christians. Ergo, it must have been an intruder. He HAS been obsessed with this. And, he had his fingers deep, deep in this matter with Karr...
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:29 PM
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65. So... those who believe the Ramsey's did it... |
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Mon Aug-28-06 07:03 PM
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72. No reason to put words into my mouth |
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If you think Patsy murdered JB because she put her in pageants, or think John was taking a snuff film of her -- that's nuts. If you think the KNOWN EVIDENCE points to the Ramseys, that's your theory. If you think the Ramseys couldn't have done it because they're good Christians, or because no parent could do that to their child -- that's a bit nutso. If you feel the KNOWN EVIDENCE points to an intruder, that's your theory.
I personally feel the evidence points overwhelmingly to an inside killing -- not a murder.
Smit and Tracey have hardcore agendas -- and Smit's is backed by alot of insider knowledge, some far-fetched theories, and more than a bit of Righteous Zealotry. My theory -- or yours -- doesn't result in someone being entrapped via email and dragged from another country at an enormous cost to taxpayers. Theirs did. This was a small group of private individuals -- NOT law enforcement -- showboating. Ugh.
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Mon Aug-28-06 09:08 PM
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76. And if you say that the "evidence" points overwhelmingly to an... |
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inside killing - do you not also have a hardcore agenda when assessing this case?
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:41 PM
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I was out of town and away from television and so missed all of the recent hoopla.
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:38 PM
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68. The CU prof. exchanged emails with Karr for a long time. |
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I'm not blaming him for it; he teaches journalism, after all, and he was in Boulder. It was to his advantage to do so. But a lot of people took advantage of that awful situation and apparently continue to do so.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:42 PM
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6. Shocked, I tell you, shocked |
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I guess they HAD to bust him and check his story, but it was pretty clear this guy just wanted to be in the papers.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:44 PM
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13. I think he just wanted a free trip home from Thailand. |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:42 PM
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8. Filed under W for Who cares? |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:43 PM
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10. I wonder how much he was paid to divert attention away from the real |
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:48 PM
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...why would a professed murdering pedophile get treated to grandly on his trip over here?
I read somewhere that Karr use to e-mail Patsy, that was until the FBI (?) intervened. Smells fishy. :x(:
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:43 PM
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12. So it was just a cover for the Judge Taylor anti-wiretapping verdict. |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:45 PM
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Anything but the NEWS! :sarcasm:
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:33 PM
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I was trying to remember what big news story needed to buried that week.
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served as a great, "Hey! Look at the shiny thing!" moment for the MSM. That way we don't have to talk about Bush trying to take over the National Guard, the umpteen millionth Republican corruption scandal, multi-national corps making obcene profits while the working stiffs (you and me) once again get screwed, etc.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:45 PM
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And after that :sarcasm: , howzabout a rhetorical question: Will we be seeing apologies from Nancy Grace or any of her ilk who were screaming to fry this wacko for the Ramsey murder?
I think we all know the answer to that one.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:46 PM
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17. So all the time the media whores spent on this was for nothing, except |
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to waste our time and distract from actual news. I'm noticing a pattern here...
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:54 PM
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we have the "Aruba/missing girl" story to look forward to as the new "cover story".
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:22 PM
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59. poor Paula Zahn and Nancy Grace -- WHAAT will they do? |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:47 PM
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18. So can the media quit talking about it now... |
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...and get back to important news?? It provided cover for Bushco, but its run its course and Karr has had his 15 minutes of fame. Oh wait, I think I see another celebrity breakup in the making they can use for cover!!!:hurts:
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:48 PM
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19. Fugeddaboudit Already!!! |
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Don't want to be rude, and I really feel for the family.... but FOLKS we've got some very IMPORTANT issues we need to keep working on! And KARR isn't one of them!
I haven't posted anything about this until now, but I SICK of this kind of stuff! I don't see how it's going to change any of "our" lives right now. Let's keep the focus on what really matters!
And if anyone wants to jump for this go right ahead.... I'm outta here!
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:49 PM
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20. Oh no! They still need a few more months of distraction |
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so their asshole bosses can get re-elected!!! Poor M$M, their number 1 smoke screen goes up in smoke. Ha fucking ha.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:49 PM
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no shocked - no stunned - no I'm not sure I'm stunned and shocked
maybe we should start a pool on what will be the next MSM BIG FREAKING STORY to distract the masses...
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:50 PM
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22. That's because *I* killed jon benet |
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I mean, these days, who hasn't?
So, how much of the Ramsey fortune Mr Karr will "inherit"?
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:27 PM
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52. Jack McCafferty said Katherine Harris killed JonBenet. |
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nervy, huh?
he just finished reporting on the Harris/Christian church/state thing. the letters he read were very anti-Harris. Crushing. One said her brain and her mouth had been separated.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:51 PM
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...What did he have for breakfast? What's his astrological sign? What's his favorite sitcom?
Gimme the important stuff!
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:51 PM
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23. So I guess he was on the republican payroll |
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:51 PM
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25. Ya think???? Last I heard, he would have had to been in COLORADO... |
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before the murder for his DNA to have been there, but I guess I'm being technical again.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:05 PM
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Stand by for a few days of breathless reports about how |
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"inaccurate" and "unreliable" DNA tests are.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:52 PM
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26. Well, at least we didn't miss a week of REAL NEWS for this. |
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Oh, wait. We did.
Never mind.
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:56 PM
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:58 PM
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Mon Aug-28-06 02:59 PM
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31. hey, it's the guy's five minutes of fame. |
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He will be remembered more than those eight soldiers who were killed--he is infamous now.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:09 PM
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34. Soldiers are being killed somewhere? |
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shhh don't interrupt me while I'm watching Karr's plane land...oh their serving him a meal...hey look they are doing a special on his tie...
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:05 PM
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32. but but but how how...HOW could this be there must be some kind of flaw |
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with the accuracy of DNA testing. Nancy Grace says he did it and sheeeesss neeveeer Wroooong.....
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:07 PM
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33. Good now can we get this the fuck off the air waves. |
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:11 PM
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35. We DUer's new the whole Karr story was BS. You heard it here first. |
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Mike Malloy is cracking me up. He just called Karr a "pod person."
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:12 PM
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what will the corporate media do now? I guess Mr. karr sipping champagne no longer qualifies as breaking news?
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:14 PM
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37. He should be sent back to Thailand to face Justice |
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on the next fucking flight.
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:43 PM
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54. He wasn't charged with anything in Thailand |
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Follow the thread, please...
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Mon Aug-28-06 08:12 PM
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75. My error I thought he was. |
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:16 PM
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39. Now we'll have to suffer through a week of reporting... |
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on how incompetent all those law enforcement officials and DA's are, ad nauseum.
Breaking news: Karr didn't touch his Wheaties this morning, opting only for a bowl of fruit with yogurt!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!! :sarcasm:
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:16 PM
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40. Who the hell is JonBenet? |
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here's a link to the blog of the editorial cartoonist, John de Rosier http://blogs.timesunion.com/derosier/?p=86
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:19 PM
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42. So The Grinnin' Bastard Got A Get Out Of Jail Free From Thailand |
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Smart. I'd have admitted to most anything to get out of a Thai Jail myself, particularly if I knew I didn't do it and there wasn't much of a chance in hell anyone could prove I did.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:32 PM
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to send his ass back. But it was a smart play on his part. Of course, that's if this isn't some huge Rovian plot to distract us from global warming, the Iraq war, Lieberman, wire-tap ruling, Cynthia Mckinney, the plan crash in Kentucky, Bush's poll numbers, and of course the release of the Fox reporters from captivity.
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55. HE WASN'T FUCKING CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME IN THAILAND |
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:26 PM
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62. He wasn't under arrest in Thailand |
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:20 PM
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43. Hold the presses! We have to find a diversion ASAP! |
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Runaway brides are too predictable.
Champagne and prawns won't fly twice.
Come on, we can't let Americans find out that NSA spying is uncostitutional.
Has anyone seen a UFO? Anyone? Come on, quick.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:24 PM
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44. Man am I glad I didn't post anything on the JBR threads. |
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Mon Aug-28-06 04:24 PM
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51. I kept away as well... were there many here on DU to 'Nancy Grace' him? |
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McCafferty at CNN said something like this: and the media spent all this time on this story? He sounded as disgusted as some of us here.
Wolfie is away - was he one of them that spent too much time on the story?
I like how Jack slyly kicks Leslie ass some time.
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:19 PM
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58. It wasn't 2 mins after he was arrested that . . . |
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people were demanding apologies for Patsy.
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:27 PM
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63. Yes, I saw that thread |
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I don't see any posters on here today.
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Mon Aug-28-06 07:20 PM
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73. Oooooooh!! Someone should post a link to that thread! |
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That would be very interesting to see.
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But the worst of the posts were in a deleted subthread. It was pretty bad...
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:28 PM
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Mon Aug-28-06 05:35 PM
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66. Nobody wants to consider the possibility that a parent would |
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Whether Patsy or John had anything to do with it, I don't know. That's why I didn't post. But for either side to be so vehemently for/against their position that they get into big flame wars about it - well, that's just silly.
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Mon Aug-28-06 09:27 PM
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77. Not me....I suspected from the start that Karr was a nutcase confessor |
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I still suspect the real culprit was closer to home (one of the family most likely).
Too many things about the Karr story just didn't mesh with the original story.
I had a strong feeling that the people demanding an apology to the Ramsey's would be eating crow.
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Mon Aug-28-06 03:59 PM
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48. Won't get Roved again... |
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people are getting tied of this..
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56. it did have the feel of "HEY! Look over there!" (an please ignore the mess |
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we've made in Iraq and plan to make in Iran).
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Now, can we please have another two months worth of non-stop media coverage on this goon?
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