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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:53 PM
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Indian software companies cannot find enough qualified workers
The booming companies are so desperate that they are hiring diploma holders (diplomas are like 2 year vocational degrees).

http://ia.rediff.com/money/2006/aug/29jobs.htm

With the domestic IT industry targeting $60 billion in exports by 2009-10, there is an estimated demand for 850,000 IT professionals and 1.4 million ITES-BPO professionals. The current number of IT-ITES professionals is around 1 million.

Sensing this huge void, some companies in the hardware business are even employing diploma-holders and students who have passed 10+2 (High school), while software companies are making do with graduates too.

IT companies have already started hiring BSc graduates in Physics, Maths and Statistics besides MSc graduates from similar streams.

These candidates, on being recruited, undertake a 12-week training process that brings them up to speed on various technologies they will eventually work on...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:56 PM
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1. OMG!!! There goes the cheap labor!
Whatever will the companies do next?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:58 PM
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4. China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore
Korea, and pretty soon South America and Africa.

They're all busy churning out engineers while the US sits with its thumbs up its ass churning out NCLB non thinkers and abstinence grads.

No kid is going to go into an engineering program that demands he pay attention when there are no engineering JOBS out there.

When are people going to wake up and realize that it's a vicious cycle and will only spiral this country down to the bottom?
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:57 PM
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2. Farm the jobs over here, to the good ol' USA
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 01:58 PM by augie38
We have cheap labor here.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:58 PM
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3. hey, they can outsource to the US
With our coming economic bust, and the dollar inflating out of control soon, we will be cheaper than the Indians
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Kickoutthejams23 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:01 PM
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5. Actually our Indian guys are outsourcing to Nepal.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:05 PM
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6. We tried to tell you...
but will they hire the hundreds of thousands of IT pros that they laid off? Sure, just do the work of six for 1/3 the pay, and even then they will lay you off again "just as soon as we can get us one of those H-1(b) slaves".

And the beat goes on...
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:12 PM
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8. I don't know about where you are but...
Where I work currently as well as my last job, the H1B people are nothing like slaves. They make the same money, they have nice homes, they drive nice cars, they work regular hours. I guess one could contend we are all slaves but they are not any worse off then the rest of us here.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:33 PM
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9. Did their pay go up, or did yours go down?
I'm just curious as I was one of those that worked my ass off for 10 years to finally get to a decent salary, only to have Clinton and the re:puke:s rip it all away. Needless to say I haven't followed IT too closely for the last 5 years, but at that time, the H-1(b)'s were under constant threat of termination which would result in rapid deportment back to (usually) India.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:32 PM
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11. My pay has slowly but steadily gone up
The H1B's pay is somehow mandated by their job title. The Govt says they get x pay for title x. At least here where I am, the company uses those same pay brackets (this started before I joined) and I have no complaints about it. I work 38.75 hours a week, my work is usually in line with the time frame it takes to do it and I do little overtime, maybe 5 hours a month except for once a year when we conduct our disaster recovery exercise (I run it and it is usually about 3 days solid) and I make a little over 100k (17 years exp). I know many developers with less experience (3-5 years) and their pay bracket is 40k-70k, still not too shabby, especially here is Ohio where cost of housing is pretty good.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:44 PM
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12. Thanks for the reply. The situation you describe is vastly different
from what was done to us on the west coast. I'm pretty sure I'd go nuts if I lived in most of Ohio, so moving there is not an option. I'm glad you are doing well.

I actually turned down a job in Ohio back in the day because I just couldn't face writing COBOL all day every day. If only I'd known, eh?
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:57 PM
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13. It's actually not too bad
I lived in NJ, NY, CT and MA before coming out here and it's not anywhere near as bad as I thought. I live right next to Columbus and it's really a good city. Theres lots of good places to see good local bands, seriously, theres tons of good local music here, lots of good restuarants, pleanty to do. As for COBOL... meh, does not bother me. I also get to play with DB2, IMS, CICS, even a little Cold Fusion when I'm good :)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:08 PM
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7. Maybe all the out of work Americans who lost their jobs to
India should emigrate to India. Just a thought although I'm sure you don't need anymore people than you already have. How about sending those extra unfilled jobs back here?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:39 PM
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10. I know of one company that is
I know of an India-based publishing company that is seeking US-based copy editors for work for US-based publishers. I still haven't found out what the overseas folks expect to pay US-based CE's....
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