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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:52 AM
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New Patriot Act creates the “Secret Service, Uniformed Division
America has never had a federal police force, but hidden in the new “Patriot” Act is language that creates just such a beast.

SEC. 605. THE UNIFORMED DIVISION, UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE.

There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the `United States Secret Service Uniformed Division’.


The Secret Service, Uniformed Division will not operate solely in DC, but anywhere former Presidents travel, or foreign dignitaries, or even “as the President, on a case-by-case basis, may direct.” #8

A federal police force, directed by the President. Is this not the Gestapo all over again?

If the new “Patriot” Act passes, the new SSUD federal police can show up at:

(11) An event designated.. as a special event of national significance.
(12) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election…

A federal goon squad on hand to arrest any ‘disruptors’ during the next Presidential Election… how can you look in the mirror and tell yourself that there’s hope for 2008? Or is that just an excuse to continue doing nothing right now?

Note: This bill comes up in two weeks, to date only myself and Kurt Nimmo have written about it. I’ve written Democracy Now, CommonDreams, etc… nobody wants to touch it.
Please do what you can to break this story
http://benfrank.net/blog/


http://benfrank.net/blog/f/gestapo.pdf
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:56 AM
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1. Nixon is grinning in his grave. Jesus, we are fucked if this
goes through. May as well die standing up as on our knees.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. But we die
fighting it! THAT is the important thing, that we fight it with everything we have.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:53 PM
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34. Ahhhh.. the American SS, storm troopers. Anybody not taking this serious
is a damned fool.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:59 AM
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2. reviving the waffen ss?
sure sounds like it. i am getting the feeling that george isn`t stepping down
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:01 AM
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3. They have a uniformed division. I remember going through going through
security at a Kerry event, prior to the election, and I got stopped because of a bracelet I had on. It was African and made up of sfety pins with beads. I had a conversation with the officer about the bracelet. He was uniformed and I looked at his badge and it said secret service. I commented to him that I didn't think Secret Service Officers wore uniforms.
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:10 AM
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5. The new patriot act states that they are creating something new....
They are expanding the secret service into a gestapo...
Kurt Nimmo has more details

But here’s the disturbing part: Chertoff and his minions will be allowed to commandeer your local cops under this draconian provision. “In carrying out the functions pursuant to paragraphs (7) and (9) of subsection (a), the Secretary of Homeland Security may utilize, with their consent, on a reimbursable basis, the services, personnel, equipment, and facilities of State and local government.”

So let’s say Bush plans to traipse through your town and you send out an email to your friends urging them to practice their one-time civil liberty under the First Amendment of the now doormat Bill of Rights and stand on a public street corner with signs protesting the neocon mass murder campaign in Iraq. Of course, that very email will be scooped up by the largest intel op in the world—the National Security Agency, now effectively Bush’s personal snoop operation—and will be forwarded to Chertoff’s Gestapo and you may very well receive a visit the day before Bush’s motorcade wings through town and due to “extraordinary protective need” you may very well be arrested “without warrant” for an “offense against the United States,” that is to say for disagreeing with our Caesar, George W. Bush.



Patriot Act Empowers Ministry of Homeland Security Gestapo
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=180
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:17 AM
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14. misleading description of technical amendment to existing law
Does anyone ever bother to actually read and research things they read on the 'net?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=54639#60008
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:12 AM
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6. The movie F 9/11
The scene in front of the Saudi Embassy when the SS uniformed officers show up...
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:27 AM
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7. this is an expansion
now imagine these guys everywhere, at Bush's command...

Do you trust this guy to use these powers wisely?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:49 AM
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8. No way would I trust them.
they are going to push the envelope as far as they can.
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:04 AM
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10. This is what they did at the FTAA protest Miami 2003






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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. thugs with a badge
that's really, really wrong on so many levels.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
27. "Free Trade" is a primary interest of the fascists.
That top photo..."They hate us for our freedoms."

Yeah. Right.
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:58 AM
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9. America Needs A New Police Force...
...to police the police!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:08 AM
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12. OMG. This is bloodcurdling. They are doing it. Nazi/fascist Amerikkka.
And how many so-called Dems will vote for this?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:25 AM
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20. Doesn't even matter since Repubs own both houses. Repubs need to NO it!
We need DUers in areas with Republican congrespeople to jump on this one.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:05 AM
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11. that's not all it does . . .
TOTAL POLICE STATE TAKEOVER: The Secret Patriot Act II Destroys What Is Left of American Liberty

http://www.prisonplanet.com/secret_patriot_act_2_destroys_what_is_left_of_american_liberty.html

(snip)

The second Patriot Act is a mirror image of powers that Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler gave themselves. Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot Act reorganizes the entire Federal government as well as many areas of state government under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command. The Domestic Security Enhancement Act 2003, also known as the Second Patriot Act is by its very structure the definition of dictatorship.

- much more . . . scroll down to see Patriot Act II provisions . . .

http://www.prisonplanet.com/secret_patriot_act_2_destroys_what_is_left_of_american_liberty.html




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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:09 AM
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13. debunked
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:21 AM
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17. congrats
but that is only your opinion
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:22 AM
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18. did you read the law?
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 11:23 AM by onenote
Did you research its history? Obviously not.If you want to point out particular statements that I've made that you don't believe are accurate, and provide support, I'm happy to engage in a discussion.

onenote

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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:09 PM
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22. debunker debunked
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 05:11 PM by Marleyb
The premise of your debunking is that this is already existing code however that is not the case...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp109&sid=cp109WvwUu&refer=&r_n=hr333.109&item=&sel=TOC_208072&

In General- Chapter 203 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 3056 the following:

`Sec. 3056A. Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service Uniformed Division

`(a) There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the `United States Secret Service Uniformed Division'. Subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall perform such duties as the Director, United States Secret Service, may prescribe in connection with the protection of the following:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:12 PM
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25. I sure hope you're not a lawyer, because you'd be guilty of malpractice
Here's a link to existing statutory provision, title 3, section 202
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode03/usc_sec_03_00000202----000-.html

I'll quote it for you:

TITLE 3 > CHAPTER 3 > § 202

§ 202. United States Secret Service Uniformed Division; establishment, control, and supervision; privileges, powers, and duties

There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the “United States Secret Service Uniformed Division”. Subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall perform such duties as the Director, United States Secret Service, may prescribe in connection with the protection of the following:

Notice the similarity to the "new" provision. As I said, all the new law does is move this provision from one title of the law (title 3, which is laws relating to the presidency) to title 18, which is deals with crimes and criminal procedure and happens to be where other provisions relating to the Secret Service are (and have been) located.
In other words...a technical change that doesn't make a substantive change.

The bettting here is 70-30 that you won't admit you were wrong.

onenote

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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:10 PM
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26. the point was the evidence of the addition of something??
yes there was a secret service but the new legislation adds onto it and then calls it the same name. They are expanding their powers. There are new provisions for making arrests without warrant, commandeering local police force..it is different than the original. Did you read your link?

Did you read Kurt Nimmo's article?
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=180

I'm not sure why you trust that they are just changing some bureaucracy
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:45 PM
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30. yes I read Nimmo and he (and you) are absolutely and demonstrably wrong
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 12:52 PM by onenote
I’m going to try one more time, with lots of citations and everything. Maybe then you won’t be so fast to believe the half-baked rantings of an internet blogger.

Let’s start with what Nimmo says. He claims that Congress “has proposed the creation” of a “spanking new federal police force” to be known as the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division.” Citing fellow half-baked blogger, BenFrank, he suggests that this represents the first time the country will have had a federal police force. He goes on to equate this “new” federal police force with the Gestapo. In support, he points to a provision in the proposed law that says “In carrying out the functions pursuant to paragraphs (7) and (9) of subsection (a), the Secretary of Homeland Security may utilize, with their consent, on a reimbursable basis, the services, personnel, equipment, and facilities of State and local government.” According to Nimmo, this means that if chimpy is going to drive through your city and you send an email to friends suggesting that you stand on a public street corner waving signs, under the new law, the Uniformed Division of the Secret Service can “commandeer” your local cops and order them to arrest you for act of sending that email.

Okay, so let’s look at what the law really is today and what the “new” law does.

1. The first “federal police force” dates back more than 100 years. The Uniformed Division has its origins in the White House Police Force which was created in 1922 and moved under the supervision of the Secret Service in 1930. It has gone under various names over the years, but has been known as the Uniformed Division of the Secret Service since 1977. http://www.secretservice.gov/ud.shtml

2. As I indicated in an earlier post, section 202 of title 3 of the US Code currently “creates and establishes” the Uniformed Division. What the new law does is repeal section 202 (and other sections in the same chapter of title 3) and move it, largely intact, to title 18, which happens to be where the provisions governing the Secret Service in general are located. In other words, it’s a clarifying/technical change, not the creation of a new entity. The likely reason (apart from organizational consistency) is simply the recognition that the functions of the Uniformed Division have, for many many years, involved more than the protection of the President and thus it doesn’t really make sense for the authorizing provision to be in the section of the law dealing with the presidency.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode03/usc_sec_03_00000202----000-.html

In short, Nimmo (and BenFrank’s) claim that the new law would create the first federal police force in US history is utter bullshit.

Now let’s look at what other changes the new law makes.

1. I will acknowledge that the new law makes a few other changes in the provision creating the Uniformed Division. But these changes are essentially clarifying and/or technical. In particular, the new law specifies that the Uniformed Division’s protection extends to the President and VP elect, former presidents, the next in line to the presidency in times where there is no VP, and to visiting heads of state. These “additions” aren’t really substantive expansions in the Uniformed Division’s powers since they already are covered by the current provision spelling the powers of the Secret Service (of which the Uniformed Division is, uh, a division) in general. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/index.html

2. Nimmo is all hot and bothered by the “new” provision that supposedly allows the Uniformed Division to “commandeer” local cops to arrest you for threatening to protest a chimpy visit. Two little problems. The provision allowing the Uniformed Division to utilize local law enforcement resources (with their consent and with reimbursement, which doesn’t fit my idea of “commandeering”) is not new and only applies in very limited circumstances. Specifically, the proposed language merely provides that the Uniformed Division can utilize local law enforcement in two situations: to protect foreign missions located outside Washington DC and to protect visiting foreign officials when they visit cities other than DC. The reason for this provision is obvious – its not cost effective to fly dozens of Secret Service agents all over the country every time a foreign official visits. So, if Prince Charles visits LA, the Secret Service can ask LA police to provide security and the US government will pick up the tab. Moreover, this isn’t a new provision. The exact same authority exists today in section 208 of title 3. That section, like section 203, is being moved to title 18. Whoop-de-doo. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode03/usc_sec_03_00000208----000-.html

3. There is one new provision that might be viewed as a substantive expansion of the law, although as usual Nimmo and friends completely mischaracterize it. Under current section 1752 of title 18, it is illegal to “willfully and knowingly” enter or remain in a cordoned off, posted, or otherwise restricted area of a building or grounds where a person under the protection of the Secret Service (not just the Uniformed Division) “is or is temporarily visiting.” It also is illegal to willfully and knowingly and with intent to impede or disrupt official government functions, for someone to engage in disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted area where a protected person is present IF such conduct “in fact” impedes or disrupts. (In other words, just threatening to disrupt doesn’t cut it, you have to actually do so). Also illegal under current law: willfully or knowingly impeding entry or exit from a restricted area where a protected person is present or engaging in any act of physical violence against any person or property in a restricted area where a protected person is present. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001752----000-.html

Finally under current law (section 3056(d) of title 18), its illegal to interfere with the Secret Service when they are carrying out their protective duties under section 1752. So, if the President of France visits the US and goes to the theater and he wants to go to the bathroom, the Secret Service can cordon off the bathroom and if you attempt to bust in to relieve your bladder, you can be arrested. Shocking.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/index.html

What the new law does that might be considered an “expansion” of current law (but probably isn’t really) is as follows. The current law applies to areas when a protected person is present. The new law adds a section that makes it illegal to do any of the things described above in an area designated by the President as a “national event of special significance” even if a protected person isn’t actually there. So, for example, if chimpy is going to make a speech at a hotel in Dubuque at noon, the Secret Service (not just the Uniformed Division, but any officer or agent) can cordon off an area for security before he arrives and if you won’t leave the area or try to sneak in, they can bust you. By the way, the authority to designate NSSEs isn't new. Its already in section 3056.

So, back to Nimmo: Is it true that if chimpy is coming to town and you send emails to friends saying lets’ stand on a public street corner and hold signs protesting his thuggery, the new law allows some new federal police force to order your local cop to arrest you for the mere act of sending that email? No. Absolutely no. No to the nth power. And please, spare me the claim that you could be arrested for conspiring to cause a disruption. If that’s the case under this new law, its also the case under current law (which also specifically refers to conspiracies).

Frankly even the so-called expansion to cover “NSSEs” when no protected person is present is probably not really an expansion since the Secret Service currently (under section 3056(e)) has the authority to participate in the planning, coordination, and implementation of security operations at NSSEs, which implicitly includes enforcing security before the protected person arrives.

I will concede one substantive change: if, in connection with violating section 1752, you use or carry a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm, or significant bodily harm occurs, you can go to jail for up to 10 years, instead of for one year, which is the current penalty.

So, lets review: not the first federal police force; not a new federal police force; no new significant expansion in power (and to the extent there is an expansion, it applies not just to the uniformed division, but to the secret service in general as well as to any law enforcement official with authority to enforce violations of federal criminal law). Is a new “Gestapo” being created. Only in the fantasies of bloggers who don’t seem to realize that when they dream up this bullshit they undermine the credibility of those of us who are trying to point out the real problems with the Patriot Act.

Respectfully yours,

onenote
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:59 PM
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32. Very informative
Thanks for putting all that together.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:15 PM
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33. thanks
I'm not surprised that all I'm hearing from the OP is the sound of crickets.


By the way, I noticed that the goofy BenFrank poster that the OP linked characterized a sign or video camera as a "dangerous weapon" that could get you 10 years in jail under this law. Might as well debunk that while I'm at it. The term "dangerous weapon" is not defined in the section of the law in question; however, it is defined elsewhere it title 18 (section 930) and a court almost certainly would look to that definition in deciding what Congress meant. That definition is as follows:

"2) The term “dangerous weapon” means a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 21/2 inches in length."

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=dangerous%20weapon&url=/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000930----000-.html


Only a seriously deluded individual would argue that a video camera or a sign fits within that definition. (And yes I realize that you could bludgeon someone with a video camera; you also could kill someone with a knife with a blade that is less than 2 1/2 inches in length -- but its not a "dangerous weapon" under this statute either). Of course if you actually use a video camera (or a little knife or a pencil or the back of your hand) to cause significant bodily harm, then you face 10 years.

onenote

onenote
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 05:04 PM
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35. What he said! (n/t)
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:18 AM
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15. It's official...
we now have our very own SS...
in sparkling new uniforms...
fascism seems to be the new black
maybe they can use that good ol' death's head insignia...
like Georgie's dear skill and bones...

Alas Poor Geronimo
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:24 AM
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19. Gestapo anyone?
:scared:

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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:47 PM
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21. I have to borrow this from another poster at DU...
The time has come when the people, we/us, have to insist that nothing in the halls of our democracy moves forward until we reassert the power invested us effective with the signings of the Declaration of Independence and the ratification of the Constitution and the passage of its many important amendments. Nothing- from the Supreme Court nomination to the budgeting of our hard earned contributions to the Treasury- should be allowed to proceed until we can pry these traitor's hands off of the throat of our democracy.


Time To Pull The Plug On This Fascist Regime
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x192035
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:12 PM
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23. This is BS on numerous levels.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:07 PM
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24. For reference, here's the Act, from the Library of Congress, unedited.
SEC. 605. THE UNIFORMED DIVISION, UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE.

(a) In General- Chapter 203 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 3056 the following:

`Sec. 3056A. Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service Uniformed Division

`(a) There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the `United States Secret Service Uniformed Division'. Subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall perform such duties as the Director, United States Secret Service, may prescribe in connection with the protection of the following:

`(1) The White House in the District of Columbia.

`(2) Any building in which Presidential offices are located.

`(3) The Treasury Building and grounds.

`(4) The President, the Vice President (or other officer next in the order of succession to the Office of President), the President-elect, the Vice President-elect, and their immediate families.

`(5) Foreign diplomatic missions located in the metropolitan area of the District of Columbia.

`(6) The temporary official residence of the Vice President and grounds in the District of Columbia.

`(7) Foreign diplomatic missions located in metropolitan areas (other than the District of Columbia) in the United States where there are located twenty or more such missions headed by full-time officers, except that such protection shall be provided only--

`(A) on the basis of extraordinary protective need;

`(B) upon request of an affected metropolitan area; and

`(C) when the extraordinary protective need arises at or in association with a visit to--

`(i) a permanent mission to, or an observer mission invited to participate in the work of, an international organization of which the United States is a member; or

`(ii) an international organization of which the United States is a member;

except that such protection may also be provided for motorcades and at other places associated with any such visit and may be extended at places of temporary domicile in connection with any such visit.

`(8) Foreign consular and diplomatic missions located in such areas in the United States, its territories and possessions, as the President, on a case-by-case basis, may direct.

`(9) Visits of foreign government officials to metropolitan areas (other than the District of Columbia) where there are located twenty or more consular or diplomatic missions staffed by accredited personnel, including protection for motorcades and at other places associated with such visits when such officials are in the United States to conduct official business with the United States Government.

`(10) Former Presidents and their spouses, as provided in section 3056(a)(3) of title 18.

`(11) An event designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a special event of national significance.

`(12) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses of such candidates, as provided in section 3056(a)(7) of title 18.

`(13) Visiting heads of foreign states or foreign governments.

`(b)(1) Under the direction of the Director of the Secret Service, members of the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division are authorized to--

`(A) carry firearms;

`(B) make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony; and

`(C) perform such other functions and duties as are authorized by law.

`(2) Members of the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall possess privileges and powers similar to those of the members of the Metropolitan Police of the District of Columbia.

`(c) Members of the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall be furnished with uniforms and other necessary equipment.

`(d) In carrying out the functions pursuant to paragraphs (7) and (9) of subsection (a), the Secretary of Homeland Security may utilize, with their consent, on a reimbursable basis, the services, personnel, equipment, and facilities of State and local governments, and is authorized to reimburse such State and local governments for the utilization of such services, personnel, equipment, and facilities. The Secretary of Homeland Security may carry out the functions pursuant to paragraphs (7) and (9) of subsection (a) by contract. The authority of this subsection may be transferred by the President to the Secretary of State. In carrying out any duty under paragraphs (7) and (9) of subsection (a), the Secretary of State is authorized to utilize any authority available to the Secretary under title II of the State Department Basic Authorities Act of 1956.'

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp109&sid=cp109WvwUu&refer=&r_n=hr333.109&item=&sel=TOC_208072&
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:28 PM
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28. Mark Crispin Miller blogs on this...
American Gestapo

What BushCo wants, according to the fine print (Sec. 605) of the new PATRIOT Act, is a permanent Praetorian Guard, or Cheka, or Gestapo. It's all too easy to come up with apt historical analogies--but not with any from this nation's history.

"A permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division,'" empowered to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence" (what is "an offense against the United States?), "or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony" (what are "reasonable grounds"?).

I'm not making this up. See the text and URL below.

What will it take to get the press to notice this?

MCM
http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2006/01/american-gestapo.html
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:53 AM
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29. From the existing secret service FAQ
http://www.secretservice.gov/faq.shtml

"What legal authority and powers do Secret Service agents have?

Under Title 18, Section 3056, United States Code, agents and officers of the Secret Service can carry firearms; execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States; make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed such felony; offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation of the law that the Secret Service is authorized to enforce; investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments and foreign securities; perform other functions and duties authorized by law. The Secret Service works closely with the United States Attorney's Office in both protective and investigative matters. "

I googled "offense against the United States," and it shows up as a synonym for crime in the UCMJ and other U.S. legal code. Basically, it seems to be legalese for "misdemeanor violation of federal law." It's not some new catch-all designed to criminalize anything. If an officer arrested a protestor for an offense against the United States, he'd have to show in court what offense the protestor was committing.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:38 PM
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31. Kicked...too late to recommend!
:scared:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 05:14 PM
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36. So this would mean the SS, who work for the Treasury Dept
would become a political police force under the directive of just one man? Yeah, that about sounds right for the BFEE.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:01 PM
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37. no it means that secret service will still be under the secretary of
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 08:03 PM by onenote
Homeland Security, where its been since Congress enacted the Homeland Security Act of 2002 moving it from Treasury. Was that a good idea? Well, since I don't think DHS has turned out to be anything other than a beaureaucratic cesspool, the answer is probably not. But, on the other hand, it would be naieve to think that the Secretary of the Treasury is somehow immune to political pressure. By the way, the process of designating National Special Security Event (NSSE) was initiated by President Clinton in 1998 through the issuance of Presidential Decision Directive 62, much of which remains classified. In the original Patriot Act, Congress codified the NSSE designation process.


onenote

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