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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:32 AM
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Rumsfeld's accusations - the REST of the story
http://www.slate.com/id/2148344

The most-publicized portions of Rumsfeld's speech were in the same vein as Cheney's: Today's terrorists pose the same threat as yesteryear's Nazis; critics of the war in Iraq are like the appeasers before World War II; the real problem is that "the media" spreads "lies" and "myths" about how the war is going.



The real story: Dubya's Grandfather Prescott Bush charged with aiding the
Nazis under the Trading with the Enemy Act:


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brown_Brothers_and_Company

Six days after Pearl Harbor and the US declaration of war at the end of 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau and US Attorney General Francis Biddle signed the Trading With the Enemy Act, which banned any business interests with US enemies of war. Prescott Bush continued with business as usual, aiding the Nazi invasion of Europe and supplying resources for weaponry that would eventually be turned on American solders in combat against Germany.

On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government had had enough of Prescott Bush and his Nazi business arrangements with Fritz Thyssen. Over the summer, The New York Tribune had exposed Bush and Thyssen, whom the Tribune dubbed "Hitler's Angel." When the US government saw UBC's books, they found out that Bush's bank and its shareholders "are held for the benefit of ... members of the Thyssen family, is property of nationals ... of a designated enemy country."
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:37 AM
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1. I presented my republican parents with this juicy fact durning the 2K
(s)election. Their reply was oh, that's a myth. I don't believe that.

Why don't they believe it? Because it's not reported by the MSM as being 'real'. The fact that there is ample documentation of this, that it is, in fact, part of the historical record, doesn't seem to matter. :crazy:

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:47 AM
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4. They don't believe it simply because it doesn't fit their
world view. To assimilate new information is really a pretty extensive undertaking and it is just simpler to dismiss that which doesn't fit. It really is no more complicated than that.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:37 AM
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7. yes, I'm aware of that, thanks
for pointing out the obvious.

I do not think it is complicated. I think it's nuts, and I think it will bring about the destruction of our species, not to mention a few thousand others.

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:16 PM
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9. Your welcome. n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:38 AM
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2. Junta calling dissenters fascists is just more of their projection issue
Thank you for providing our viewers with some pertinent background. :thumbsup:

The Bush family true colors can been seen, if one looks beyond the images they have the media portray.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:40 AM
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3. The Hitler Project
Bush Property Seized--Trading with the Enemy

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

George Bush:
The
Unauthorized
Biography

by
Webster G. Tarpley
&
Anton Chaitkin

Introduction -- AMERICAN CALIGULA (47,195 bytes)

1 --- THE HOUSE OF BUSH: BORN IN A BANK (33,914 bytes)

2 --- THE HITLER PROJECT (55,321 bytes)

3 --- RACE HYGIENE: THREE BUSH FAMILY ALLIANCES (51,987 bytes)

4 --- THE CENTER OF POWER IS IN WASHINGTON (51,699 bytes)

5 --- POPPY AND MOMMY (47,684 bytes)

6 --- BUSH IN WORLD WAR II (36,992 bytes)

7 --- SKULL AND BONES: THE RACIST NIGHTMARE AT YALE (56,508 bytes)

8 --- THE PERMIAN BASIN GANG (64,269 bytes)

8-b --- THE BAY OF PIGS AND THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION(46,903 bytes)

9 --- BUSH CHALLENGES YARBOROUGH FOR THE SENATE (110,435 bytes)

10 -- RUBBERS GOES TO CONGRESS(129,439 bytes)

11 -- UNITED NATIONS AMBASSADOR, KISSINGER CLONE (99,842 bytes)

12 -- CHAIRMAN GEORGE IN WATERGATE (104,415 bytes)

13 -- BUSH ATTEMPTS THE VICE PRESIDENCY, 1974 (27,973 bytes)

14 -- BUSH IN BEIJING (53,896 bytes)

15 -- CIA DIRECTOR (174,012 bytes)

16-- CAMPAIGN 1980 (139,823 bytes)

17 -- THE ATTEMPTED COUP D'ETAT OF MARCH 30, 1981 (87,300 bytes)

18 -- IRAN-CONTRA (140,338 bytes)

19 -- THE LEVERAGED BUYOUT MOB(67,559 bytes)

20 -- THE PHONY WAR ON DRUGS(26,295 bytes)

21 -- OMAHA (25,969 bytes)

22 -- BUSH TAKES THE PRESIDENCY(112,000)

23 -- THE END OF HISTORY (168,757 bytes)

24 -- THE NEW WORLD ORDER (255,215 bytes)

25 -- THYROID STORM (138,727 bytes)

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#3%20--

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:48 AM
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5. So maybe this is the time that our Democratic leaders start pointing
out the Bush comes from a long line of Nazi sympathizers.
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ArmchairMeme Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:58 AM
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6. Follow the money
Does this concept tie in with The Carlyle Group, a private bank which Bush Sr. invests in and which may be the next to buy the U.S. Ports?
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:01 PM
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8. This also explains what's going on in our Country today -- fascism..nt
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