About Keith Olbermann's Commentary last night.....

[Greylyn58]

After watching Keith Olbermann’s incredible smack-down commentary of Rumsfeld, I spent a good bit of time searching for quotes about war, patriotism and standing up for what is right in a democracy. I don’t know why exactly, I just felt an over-powering need to find other words that spoke to me the way Keith’s had.

I found a few good ones.

I’m not one of DU’s most prolific posters or one of its most eloquent, but I wanted to post something describing how I feel at this moment in time. I decided to use some of the quotations I found in my search. These quotes speak for me and express exactly how I feel about America, the current occupants in OUR White House and their continuing assertions that anyone who speaks out against them is a traitor or is it now a fascist?

Anyway, I hope these quotes speak to you the way they did to me. I’m beginning with someone Keith and I both admire.


The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer.

We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

“The speed of communications is wondrous to behold. It is also true that speed can multiply the distribution of information that we know to be untrue.”

Edward R. Murrow

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

James Madison

I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be.

Thomas Jefferson

It is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.

That we are to stand by the president, right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

Theodore Roosevelt

The statesman who yields to war fever...is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events.

Sir Winston Churchill

Liberty and democracy become unholy when their hands are dyed red with innocent blood.

Mahatma Gandhi

It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood...War is hell.

General William Tecumseh Sherman

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so...

Robert A. Heinlein

The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated.

William Ellery Channing

May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.

George Orwell

I will end with one I think says it all for me...


I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.

James Baldwin

[Punkingal]

1. Those are great quotes.

And you should probably post more! Great dog, too! I have a golden named Traveler...aren't they the greatest dogs?

[Greylyn58]

5. Thank you

and yes Goldens are wonderful dogs. You wouldn't know it by that picture, but my Sheridan will be 11 years old in Dec. and still has the heart of a puppy.

[Radio_Lady]

131. Greylyn, these quotes are excellent!

I'm going to read some of them on my audio show scheduled to air on September 11, 2006.

See the right column of my journal to find out how to hear my program on the Internet.

Thanks for posting them!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[peace13]

2. Thanks for posting this! Peace, Kim

[Greylyn58]

42. Thank you for responding to it n/t

[Botany]

3. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav EDV?

nice job

[Greylyn58]

9. Thanks

and Sheridan thanks you for his favorite treat.

My boy is a Milk Bone junkie.

:evilgrin:

[npincus]

4. thank you.

:)

[Greylyn58]

108. You are very welcome n/t

[Harry Monroe]

6. Let me be the first to kick this page up...

...how about it folks?? We need inspiration, both in patriots like Olbermann and in inspiring quotes that so eloquently express what we intelligent patriots think.

Here are a few to get this thread going...

“It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error, but rather it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error”
Justice Robert H. Jackson

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President – is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public”
Theodore Roosevelt

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”
James Madison

“If American democracy ceases to move forward as a living force, seeking day and night by peaceful means to better the lot of our citizens, fascism will grow in strength in our land”
Franklin Delano Roosevelt

“History furnishes no example of priest ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes”
Thomas Jefferson

“A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home, we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake”
Thomas Jefferson, June 4, 1798, in a letter to John Taylor after the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts

“A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to Farce or Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power that knowledge gives”
James Madison

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

''For a political candidate to jump to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander in chief'
George W. Bush 10/26/04, in reference to John Kerry on the subject of missing cache of explosives in Iraq (the irony and hypocrisy of this remark by GWB is truly astounding!!!)

“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus become vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State”
Joseph Goebbels, propaganda minister to Adolph Hitler

[Harry Monroe]

8. I see others beat me to it...

...while I was "cuttin' and pastin'" my favorite quotes. Here's hoping others post their favorites.

[Greylyn58]

25. Those two quotes by Jefferson and Madison

“A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home, we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake”
Thomas Jefferson, June 4, 1798, in a letter to John Taylor after the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts

“A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to Farce or Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power that knowledge gives”
James Madison

....have been favorites of mine for some time and I forgot to include them.


Thanks for reminding me.

[Sydnie]

7. Sending you on to the Greatest Page!

:hi: Great work!

[Greylyn58]

43. Thank you n/t

[cally]

10. I copied and saved your post

(and recommended). Thank you!

[Greylyn58]

45. Thank You

that's very flattering. It's nice to hear that what you wrote touched someone.

[JitterbugPerfume]

11. Thank you so much!

this post is just wonderful

recommended and book marked

[Greylyn58]

57. Thanks so much n/t

[babylonsister]

12. Thanks for compiling these quotes; they're great! nt

[Greylyn58]

56. I enjoyed doing it n/t

[SDDEM06]

13. Margaret Chase Smith:

Those of us who shout the loudest about Americanism in making character assassinations are all to frequently those who, by our own words and acts, ignore some of the basic principles of Americanism --

The right to criticize;
The right to hold unpopular beliefs;
The right to protest;
The right of independent thought.

The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn't? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own. Otherwise thought control would have set in.

The American people are sick and tired of being afraid to speak their minds lest they be politically smeared as "Communists" or "Fascists" by their opponents. Freedom of speech is not what it used to be in America. It has been so abused by some that it is not exercised by others.

...

Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of "know nothing, suspect everything" attitudes.

...

The nation sorely needs a Republican victory. But I don't want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny -- Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear.

I doubt if the Republican Party could -- simply because I don't believe the American people will uphold any political party that puts political exploitation above national interest. Surely we Republicans aren't that desperate for victory.

I don't want to see the Republican Party win that way. While it might be a fleeting victory for the Republican Party, it would be a more lasting defeat for the American people. Surely it would ultimately be suicide for the Republican Party and the two-party system that has protected our American liberties from the dictatorship of a one party system.

...

As an American, I want to see our nation recapture the strength and unity it once had when we fought the enemy instead of ourselves.

http://www.mcslibrary.org/program/library/declaration.htm
"Declaration of Conscience"
June 1, 1950
Senator Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)

[Harry Monroe]

26. Thank you...

...I learn something on this site every day. Here's a link that should be required reading for ALL members of Congress. Thank you SDDEM06 and a special thank you to Congresswoman Margaret Chase Smith. When you read this, it will be abundantly clear that history repeats itself if we don't learn from our mistakes. Her words should be a guiding conscience for ALL members of Congress, Democrat or Republican.

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6459

[Harry Monroe]

31. You'll notice though...

...upon reading Margaret Chase Smith's "Declaration of Conscience" that Keith Olbermann indeed is dead on when he says "the battery is plugged in backwards". You'll notice how the Democratic Party in the '50's has now morphed into the Republican Party of today. How things change, yet still remain the same.

[SDDEM06]

38. She's actually talking about the right-wing of the Republican Party

Senator McCarthy in particular. But her criticism of the Democratic Administration certainly applies to the current Administration.

"The record of the present Democratic Administration has provided us with sufficient campaign issues without the necessity of resorting to political smears. America is rapidly losing its position as leader of the world simply because the Democratic Administration has pitifully failed to provide effective leadership.

The Democratic Administration has completely confused the American people by its daily contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances -- that show the people that our Democratic Administration has no idea of where it is going.

The Democratic Administration has greatly lost the confidence of the American people by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home and the leak of vital secrets to Russia through key officials of the Democratic Administration. There are enough proved cases to make this point without diluting our criticism with unproved charges.

Surely these are sufficient reasons to make it clear to the American people that it is time for a change and that a Republican victory is necessary to the security of this country. Surely it is clear that this nation will continue to suffer as long as it is governed by the present ineffective Democratic Administration."

I would take issue with some of her criticism of the Truman Administration, but you could just as easily plug in "The Bush Administration" where she mentions "The Democratic Administration" and it applies today.

[Harry Monroe]

44. The "morphing" had its roots in Civil Rights..

..especially when LBJ, famously said something to the effect, "I'm afraid we have lost the South for an entire generation" when he signed Civil Rights legislation into law. That was when the "Dixiecrats" began to change their political affiliation enmass and the Party of Lincoln began to morph and lose their original roots and their true original conservative foundations and rerooted and grew itself into the reprehensible bunch they are today. And thank God that Democrats have, for the most part, purged itself of that shameful and hateful wing of the party.

[SDDEM06]

48. LBJ was correct

But it wasn't until the 90's when we really lost the South. We have lost it for a generation, but I think we'll reclaim it in the coming years as the impoverished people of the South realize all the Bible-thumping in the world will not keep a roof over their heads or food on their families.

[Harry Monroe]

49. "or food ON their families"

LOL

[Greylyn58]

65. As someone who lives there

I really hope you are right. The good news is that there are growing patches of Blue in what might seem a sea of Red.

[PurpleChez]

117. it IS possible....

I moved to Georgia in '97. Until '02 we'd had Democratic governors for 130 years. The state legislature was Dem. We were represented in the Senate by Max Cleland. So it really, really pisses me off when people make out that Georgia is so thoroughly and inherently 'red' that there's no way in hell a Dem could ever win here. Sure there are those cretins out there who vote Thug because the GOP validates their bigotry and narrowmindedness, or at least because they thought Sonny Perdue would give them their Klan flag back. But on the whole I think things are more fluid and changeable than people think. Someone needs to get up and explain to Nascar Nation that the GOP is using them, that they don't share the same values, that the Thugs don't want them in their gated communities any more than they want gay hispanics or blacks who aren't domestics.

[ginnyinWI]

14. I'm stealing your Orwell quote for my sig.

Thanks! Orwell's got it nailed.

[Greylyn58]

34. Steal away

I thought it nailed it also. That's why it is included. :)

[Harry Monroe]

15. I'm not so sure about the accuracy of this one...

...but it was so funny, I HAD to pass it along. If Nostradamus was for real and could truly see into the future, then he HAD to see this coming...

"Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth To be acclaimed the leader."
Nostradamus


Can anyone prove or disprove the accuracy of this one?? If not, than please accept it in the satirical vein in which it was delivered!!!!

[Greylyn58]

17. Oh Wow

that is great. Even if it isn't true!! :evilgrin:

[fishwax]

22. nope, not true ... that one is a joke

http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/nostra.htm

[Harry Monroe]

24. Then it only proves that Nostradamus...

...was a fraud. As I said, if he could truly see into the future, he sure would have saw this!! It's funny anyway, but I hope I don't have to add to everyone here not to pass on this quote as "gospel".

[zeemike]

30. Not true but here is one it is probalby based on

To an old leader will be born an idiot heir,
Weak both in knowledge and in war.
The leader of France is feared by his sister,
Battlefields divided, conceded to the soldiers.

Or this one;

The year following discoveries out of a flood,
Two leaders elected, the first one will not hold:
For one of them refuge from fleeing a shadow,
Plundered the house which first will maintain.

[Harry Monroe]

32. I guess the crystal ball gets a bit foggy peering too far into the future

This would be "the year", but othewise the second verse is pretty dead on accurate!!

[Greylyn58]

55. Interesting and weird n/t

[ewagner]

16. Here's a great one

to add to the list...courtesy of poster "Chuck" a commenter on Last Chance Democracy Cafe

“The Question I find intriguing is whether a nation so extrodinarily endowed as the United States can overcome that arroggance of power which has afflicted, weakened and, in some cases, destroyed great nations in the past. Power tends to confuse itself with virtue and a great nation is peculiarly susceptible to the idea that its power is the sign of God’s favor, conferring upon it a special resposibility for other nations–to make them richer and happier and wiser, to remake them, that is, in its own shinning image.”J. William Fulbright, 1966



on edit: a "woof" and milkbone to Sheridan....

2nd edit...in Memory of Misty..rip March 2004

[Greylyn58]

33. A beautiful dog

I know you must miss your baby.

Thanks for sharing the pic.

[ewagner]

40. Thanks I miss her a lot

[PurpleChez]

119. She's beautiful.

Three and a half years and I still miss my Arloe like it was yesterday. I guess I always will. Thank God for dogs.

[zeemike]

18. Thanks for those inspirational quotes

And give your dog a milk bone for me.
K&R

[Greylyn58]

53. Sheridan gives you a big Woof

and thanks for keeping his jones for the bones alive. :)

[Benfea]

19. Anyone have a text or video link to that rant?

I caught parts of it last night, and it was excellent!

[Greylyn58]

20. There were several threads containing

that info. Took me a minute to gather them, but here you go.

For the text portion go to: TRANSCRIPT: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

and for a video version(which is much better) check out Crooks and Liars:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/30/keith-olberman.../

Hope this helps.

[Harry Monroe]

21. Here's a few links

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLeg0mfoQzM
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/30/keith-olbermann-delivers-one-hell-of-a-commentary-on-rumsfeld

I hope this restores your faith in democracy!! It was simply f**king GREAT!!

[Benfea]

37. Thank you! -NT

[Greylyn58]

47. Always happy to share

the wonder that is Keith. :evilgrin:

[Benfea]

78. Aye.

It's sad that the Edward R. Murrow of our time is a former sports announcer. That's a sad commentary on our times.

[Stardust]

137. Being great in one field doesn't preclude being great in another as well.

[fishwax]

23. kicked,

recommended, and bookmarked for future reference :)

[bleever]

27. K&R. Thanks for sharing those quotes.

A great way to follow up KO's statement.

[Greylyn58]

50. Thanks bleever

for the kind comment.

[Poiuyt]

28. Very inspiring post. Just like Keith last night. Thank you!

[Greylyn58]

41. To be mentioned in the same breath

with Keith Olbermann :evilgrin: makes me want to faint... :rofl:

Thank you for your kind post.

[Greylyn58]

29. An Add-on to my original Post

I forgot to add a couple of quotes that I've loved for some time and would have fit nicely into my original thoughts.

One is by Charles Beard and the other is by a character from a favorite tv show Babylon 5

"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get
yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is
to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding
fathers used in their struggle for independence."

Charles A. Beard

G'Quon wrote, "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain."

Citizen G'Kar

[militaryWife]

35. K & R

and bookmark...thanks for taking the time to compile these.

[gkhouston]

36. nice work, Grey. n/t

[Greylyn58]

39. Thanks gkhouston

I'm blushing...:blush:

[Bitter Cup]

46. K&R

Keeping it alive for all to read again and again.

[FredStembottom]

51. Absolutely top-notch compendium!

I am going to print this out - see if I can reduce it - and carry in my wallet!

Excellent. Just excellent.

[Greylyn58]

52. Wow, I'm touched...

Always nice to know when a post speaks to a memeber of DU. :blush:

[FredStembottom]

54. And I just did shrink and print it.

Placing in wallet...........now.

[Hosnon]

58. My favorite is Teddy's second. nt

[Thoreau-Ly]

73. Where's T.R. When You Need Him?

And so you see, sig line, below.

Thanks, Greylyn58, for helping people get inspired. There are so many great quotes that we can learn from. Indulge me a little bit, here, too.

Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies.

John F. Kennedy

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/35_kennedy/psources/ps_nyliberal.html

[Greylyn58]

74. That's a good one too!

I welcome any and all quotes that can be added to this post. I think we need these to inspire us.

With so much negativity being pushed, I felt the need to provide some of the words that have kept America a Democracy for 230 years. I don't want to lose that to this miss-administration.

Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Teddy R and the others must be spinning in their graves right now.

[Swamp Rat]

59. grok

:)

[Greylyn58]

60. Grok??

I'm sure about to show my geekiness, but here goes....Grok as in "I Grok Spock?"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

61. It's from Robert Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land."

To 'grok' is to understand so well that it is fully absorbed. :)

[Greylyn58]

62. Oh God, that's right

I'm afraid I didn't sleep well last night and that was the only thing that came to mind. :yoiks:

So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :eyes:

[Swamp Rat]

63. Guy James is about to talk about Mike Malloy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2022626

[oasis]

64. Excellent!

:bounce: :thumbsup:

[Greylyn58]

66. kicked n/t

[CraigHinTenn]

129. We need more like Keith....

[DWilliamsamh]

67. Thank you.....

I too was inspired by Kieth's eloquence and passion.

Thank you for putting together a very handy compilation of more words to inspire and remind us all of what the cost of perpetual war and blind loyalty are.

[Greylyn58]

97. Thanks very much for the kind words n/t

[Patsy Stone]

68. Congrats on the great post

and the star placement!

Front page! :woohoo:

[Greylyn58]

71. I got the front page?

For real? I didn't know! That is so cool!! :woohoo:

Thanks for telling me Patsy!!

[Patsy Stone]

87. Good on ya!

Best of luck with Ernesto. I think he's gonna be nastier for you than he was for us. You and Sheridan stay safe! :hug:

[Greylyn58]

89. Thanks...

it has been raining consistently since around 4pm yesterday. Major thunder and lightning yesterday along with tons-o-rain. Thankfully, even though I live near a large creek, my apartment is high up on a hill above it. It would have to be in the realm of Noah flood making to reach me, but I can hear the creek rushing below me.

[goddess40]

69. Thanks,

I'll think I'll copy these for later.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

70. great post and great dog!

considering that we just got a puppy, (a pyrenees).
who is, in my unbiased mind, is just a cute.

I had forgotten Baldwin's words, and how true they ring at this time.

[Greylyn58]

72. Thank You

A Pyrenees...wow that's going to be a big doggy.

You'll have to post a picture of your new baby.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

75. he's got a 13 yr old golden brother (in great shape)

and a 6 yr old rescue st. bernard and husky mix. the middle guy and the baby love to play. The baby's legs (3 months today) are as long as either of the other two - and the golden is a thin, tall, goofy 100lbs!

[Greylyn58]

80. My boy Sheridan will be 11 yrs old in Dec

I wish I could get him a playmate, but I live in an apartment. :)

[civildisoBDence]

76. When Jefferson left the presidency, he said

(paraphrasing), "No one should ever have this much power."

Bush will be kicking and screaming and begging for a return to monarchy.

Satire as thick as a president's skull

[Greylyn58]

88. I found a couple more good ones

"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

Thomas Jefferson

And another killer one from James Baldwin. Damn I like this one too. I may have to change my Jefferson sig quote for this one.


"Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have."

James Baldwin

[wicket]

77. Fantastic!!!!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[berni_mccoy]

79. KICK!

:kick:

[Gregorian]

81. Here's another.

I love this thread. What wise statements. Thanks!


I was watching a film the other night. And here is something that struck me full force-

Liberty isn't given, it's taken.

[teriyaki jones]

82. Here's another great one from Teddy Roosevelt

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

[Greylyn58]

83. That's another great one from Teddy

Thanks for adding on.

[stevietheman]

84. U.S. Senator Carl Schurz (R-MO), 29 February 1872:

"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right."

[Greylyn58]

86. Ooohh, I like that one

and so very appropriate at this time.

[liberal N proud]

85. Absolutely Fantastic!

Great collection of some quote for us all to use against the bu$hitlers

[Greylyn58]

90. I agree n/t

[bliss_eternal]

91. I missed Keith's great commentary...

...anyone know if there is a transcript of his comments anywhere?

Great post too, btw! :hi:

[liberal N proud]

93. Part of it at this link

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/30/keith-olbermann-delivers-one-hell-of-a-commentary-on-rumsfeld

[bliss_eternal]

102. Wow--amazing...

...thanks so much! Great read! :hi: Where's his nomination(emmy, news award, etc.)?...That's good tv!

[Greylyn58]

94. See my replyt #20 in this post

there are links to the transcript and to the video on Crooks and Liars.

[bliss_eternal]

100. Thank you...

...very much! :)

[Mr_Spock]

92. .

Thanks.

[SharonRB]

95. This is a wonderful compilation, Grey

And congrats on making it to the top of the front page of DU!!!!

I'm so proud of one of the KOEB's own.

[Greylyn58]

99. Thank you so much

I didn't even know until Patsy told me. :blush:

I know it is silly, but I can't keep the smile from my face. It is so cool to have so many people recommend my post. :)

[SharonRB]

96. Self-delete -- Dupe

[chill_wind]

98. Beautiful compilation. Thank you!

Bookmarked and K/R'd.

[Greylyn58]

101. Thank you for your kind comments

[NewJeffCT]

103. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel

I believe it was said by Samuel Johnson. I learned that one from my high school English teacher during the Reagan regime, and it's stuck with me over the years.

And, wow, did Gen. Sherman know his chickenhawks!

Great list, by the way.

[oregonian39]

104. Thank you for the quotes...

I've been collecting quotes for some time. Thank you for letting me add to them. Here a a couple of my own favorites.

A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.
John F. Kennedy

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr.

The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us.
Abraham Lincoln

[Greylyn58]

106. Those are good ones too

I've been gathering quotes also and I will have to add those to my collection.

[Guaranteed]

105. Dang- that Churchill one....nt

[Greylyn58]

110. Yeah...that's why I included it

it was surprising to me how many of the quotes I found are completely relevant to today's events.

[kimpossible]

107. Quotation Directory

There's an extensive library of quotations at

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/top/

It's interesting to browse through.

“To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.”
-- Abraham Lincoln

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
Benito Mussolini

[Tekla West]

109. Wonderful

and thank you for the quotes, I will use them, Keith rocks!

[Greylyn58]

127. I agree

Keith does indeed rock!! :woohoo:

[Auntie Bush]

111. Bookmarked, copied, saved, filed and emailed! Thanks!

[Greylyn58]

113. You are very welcome n/t

[ocd liberal]

112. Thank you from Monterey, CA

I feel so much better now that I've read that. Revilatized even...

[Greylyn58]

116. I found it rather cathartic myself

as I was searching for the different quotes and reading them.

Thanks for your kind comments.

[Ignis]

114. Thanks for putting it so beautifully for us all! (nt)

[Greylyn58]

120. You are very kind

Thank you!

[janx]

115. That is a marvelous choice and range of quotes!

From Churchill to Jefferson to Teddy R. to James Baldwin! Have you ever considered being an editor (or are you one?). Your choices are both eclectic (just had to use that word!) and cohesive.

:toast:

[Greylyn58]

118. No, I'm in retail right now

lost my office job in 2003 after being out-sourced.(Bush's wonderful economy) Have been struggling ever since.

I've had a yen to be a writer for some time, have written a few fan-fiction stories, ones concerning my favorite tv shows and movies. Things to help me better my skills. Still have much to learn.

Have also been working on a book off and on for sometime now, too. Maybe one day I'll get it all together.

[janx]

121. (The teacher in me emerging...)

Look at what you chose and the logic/threads between them.

[samsingh]

122. Keith was brilliant and a true American.

[Greylyn58]

128. Keith is always brilliant

but then, I have been a big fan of his for years.

[samsingh]

132. i'm beginning to realize that as well.

[mirandapriestly]

123. I love your post

especially your own words, and when you said
"but I wanted to post something describing how I feel at this moment in time." I was so interested in what it was that you felt and also soothed to see that I think many of the same things.
..and...
What a cute pup!

[Greylyn58]

133. Thanks

and Sheridan thanks you too. I think he's cute to, for an 11 yr old.

[namvet73]

124. Thank you! Sending a copy to my O'Reilly Worshipping Mom n/t

[Greylyn58]

126. I have an O'Reilly worshipping brother

if I thought he would get anything from these quotes, I'd give him a copy. I'm afraid he's a lost cause.

Hope you have better luck with your mom.

[lfairban]

125. You left out my favorite Kennedy quote:

War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." — John F. Kennedy

http://www.hickorytech.net/~leighp/warisstupid/page2.html

[Greylyn58]

135. Thanks for adding another good one to

the others that have been posted.

[seemunkee]

130. Thanks - Here is my list

I rotate my sigline in my email account every month and will be adding many of the ones you found to the list.

Sorry if some of these are repeats

Currently in my sigline:
We seek peace, knowing that peace is the climate of freedom.
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
-Patrick Henry

The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government.
-Franklin Delano Roosevelt
fireside chat on economic conditions, April 14, 1938

“The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men”
Plato

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
- Benjamin Franklin

We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
-Edward R. Murrow

“There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.”
- Elie Weisel

“The responsibility of ministers for the public safety is absolute, and requires no mandate. It is in fact prime object for which governments come into existence.”
- Winston Churchill

“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”
- Thomas Jefferson

An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He who would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression, for if he violates his duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
-Thomas Paine
- Dissertation on First Principles of Government, 7 July 1795

“We can have a democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."
-Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph
-Haile Selassie

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little."
-FDR

"During times of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-George Orwell

"Our lives begin to end when we fall silent about the things that matter."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

“Liberties are not given, they are taken."
- Aldous Huxley

"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made."
-FDR

Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!
- Benjamin Franklin (non-verified)

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
-John Adams

If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all.
-Noam Chomsky

Democracy is not something you believe in or a place to hang your hat, but it's something you do. You participate. If you stop doing it, democracy crumbles.
-Abbie Hoffman

"The People are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty"
-Thomas Jefferson

"Those who begin by burning books, will end by burning people."
-Heinrich Heine 1821

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
Edmund Burke


"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt......If the game runs sometimes against
us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."
From a letter sent by Thomas Jefferson in 1798, after the passage of the Sedition Act

"Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world. "Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
Margaret Meade

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them
to rights."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Herman Goering
Nuremburg War Crimes Trial 1945

"I urge you to learn the harsh facts that lurk behind the mask of official illusion with which we have concealed our true circumstances, even from ourselves. Our country is in danger: Not just from foreign enemies; but above all, from our own misguided policies, and what they can do to this country. There is a contest, not for the rule of America, but for the heart of America."
Robert F. Kennedy

"Americanism means the virtues of courage, honor, justice, truth, sincerity, and hardihood-the virtues that made America. The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life."
Theodore Roosevelt (January 10, 1917)

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand
by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally
treasonable to the American public."
-Theodore Roosevelt

It was once said that the moral test of Government is how that Government treats those who
are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly;
and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped.
Hubert H. Humphrey

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final
sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt (1759-1806)

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.
-James Madison

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
-Edward R. Murrow

Nevertheless, to the persecution and tyranny of his cruel ministry we will not tamely submit -- appealing to Heaven for the justice of our cause, we determine to die or be free.
-Joseph Warren

I have sworn on the altar of God eternal enmity against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
-Thomas Jefferson

[Greylyn58]

134. Those are some really good ones

thanks for the add ons.

[jhrobbins]

136. I wrote the thank yous to all the addresses @ MSNBC and got this back

Your message

To: [e-mail]; Letters; [e-mail]; Keith
Olbermann; [e-mail]
Subject: Keith Olbermann's commentary - brilliant
Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:39:20 -0700

was deleted without being read on Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:39:29 -0700


Guess DAn was done reading the emails he got lauding Keith.

[Greylyn58]

138. How Rude

that realy sucks, but Keith did acknowledge on his show the next night about all the emails he received and said thank you. He seemed pleased about all the fuss.

[MAX 1]

139. APPEASE WHO?????????????????

It could be said, that this Administration's tyrannical abuse of their critics, opposition, and dissenters is being fomented to appease this Administration itself. For if they can silence the critic, cancel out their opposition, and discredit the dissenter, then what voice will be heard over all others but that of the Administration’s and their minions.

Will the Administration then be appeased? Will the Administration then stop ridiculing, chastising and demonetizing the American people for having a difference of opinion then that OF the Leader’s?

What this Administration asks from Americans, is to become silent in opinion, invisible, and cooperative to the Administration's activities and war. To appease them as was done to the German’s and the rise of Hitler, the Communist's and the rise of the Cold War. To appease the BushCo. They ask for patriotic treason from the American people. We should not give it to them.