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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:58 PM
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US Airways aircraft fire on MIA runway (CNN Breaking)
Miami. Landing gear. No other details.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:05 PM
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1. Looks like just a "hard landing" to me.
Several tires blew upon landing in Miami. That most often happens when the piloy comes in too steep and too fast, the tires are already under tremendous pressure on a GOOD LANDING, but when a large aircrafthits the ground too fast and too hard, it will blow the tires causing a small fire in the wheel well. This kind of stuff happens rather frequently, so I have no idea why CNn is bothering with this as a story.

Slow News Day, I guess.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:13 PM
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3. anyone injured? more info, please- feed the office slaves
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:25 PM
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4. Nope, no injuries. They just couldn't pull the plane into the gate.
Like I said, this is A fairly common problem, and rarely, if everresults in any injuries.

CNN is already off that story.

My son is a mech forone of the lagacy carriersm nd they get info on almost every "accident" thathappens, almost everywhere. There was one recently, in CanadaI believe, where a plane flew through a large hail stormwhile at 34,000 ft. The plane was landed safely, but it will now need to be scrappedbecause of all the structural damage. The nose & radar was destroyed,, all landing lights gone,leading edge of the wingsbadly damaged, and who knows what else! when the plane landed, the Pilot &co-pilot both quit! I wish I could have sent you the pics Ireceived from my son that one! Of course CNN missed THAT ONE!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:41 PM
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5. pictures here
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:07 PM
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12. Yep! That's the one! That one isvery frightening!
Good pilots though. They didn't have any landing lights either! I can't blame them for quitting!!!!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:48 PM
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13. Scary hail damage shot. Bet they changed a few seat cushions that day!
I had a half-dollar sized hole in the radome of a Lockheed JetStar-II as a result of a lightning strike descending into Lake Charles many years ago. I've never had any hail damage .. thank goodness.

It was primarily hail damage that brought down Southern 242 (DC-9-31) on April 4, 1977, killing 62 on the jet and eight on the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Airways_Flight_242
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:55 PM
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14. I've gotten quite a few small dents on leading edges from hail
and on the fuselage from ice slung off the hot props but why the hell would anybody fly a 727 into the top of a TSTM? If they were at FL350 there should be plenty of other directions to go...:eyes:
arrgh
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:54 PM
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15. Yep. My philosophy on radar:
God gave us radar to keep from getting the aircraft's paint wet.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:34 PM
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16. Heehee, some of my rides didn't have radar...
was in the soup one summer day going into DCA, hit a patch of hail and SVR TRBL. I -think- it might
have been the edge of a tornado but couldn't see anything. This was in a 310 - it damn flipped us
upside down and a heavy optical machine in one of the back seats bounced up and damn near bonked me on the head, I didn't notice my passenger (brother of a future Senator from Oklahoma) who loaded it
hadn't strapped the damn thing in. I did a real fast 180, called ATC and said I was going back to where I just came from. Took most of the paint off the leading surfaces.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:25 PM
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17. I flew U-8s and C-47s from Ft. Sill.
No radar, ever. It's the Army way.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:41 PM
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19. I only have a few hours in a C47 (well, the DC3 version)
probably the easiest taildragger to fly I ever encountered. :-)

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:59 PM
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20. Indeed. Hardest tail-dragger?
For me it was a 1936 Tiger Moth with no brakes and a tail skid. It belonged to an EAL captain friend of mine (a Frenchman who learned to fly in gliders in Switzerland and learned English in South Texas as a military flight instructor during Viet Nam).

I landed that damned Tiger Moth in Thomaston, Georgia, with my bride-to-be in the back seat, on a blustery February day in 1973. Direct cross-wind .. 15 G 25. After about twenty seconds on the asphalt (and about ten seconds before the ground-loop) , I said "fuck-it!" (she couldn't hear .. leather helmet and all that!).

I goosed the Gypsy-Major motor and re-flew the Moth to the grass between the runway and the taxiway. Then I pulled back on the stick, and stopped the Tiger Moth on a sod dime!

Mac
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:59 PM
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7. I may bend your precious airplane, but I'll get it down
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:06 PM
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8. Tire, brake, and wheel-well fires ..
Most tire, brake, and wheel-well fires are an aftermath of medium to high-speed rejected (aborted) takeoffs. That is where the brakes get the hottest.

"Riding" the brakes while taxiing heavy aircraft, especially if the brakes are already hot from a quick-turn (a la Southwest), has caused numerous blown tires and fires.

Anti-skid failures often result in blown tires on landing, as do very hard landings; both generating a lot of black "smoke," and occasionally a wheel fire.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:06 PM
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2. Oh, man. I completely misread that headline the first time I saw it...
I thought it meant that US planes were shooting at the Miami runway.

Well, I'll enjoy my flight to Orlando this weekend even less now.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:49 PM
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6. LOL, so did I.
;)
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:09 PM
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10. All in want of a hyphen!
US Airways aircraft-fire on MIA runway. Too late to fix O/P.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:06 PM
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9. Any snakes involved?
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:30 PM
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18. Brakes! I'm sick of these M/F brakes on these M/F planes!
It must be STOPPED!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:19 PM
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11. Link to story (CNN.COM)
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