DemoTex
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Thu Aug-31-06 12:58 PM
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US Airways aircraft fire on MIA runway (CNN Breaking) |
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Miami. Landing gear. No other details.
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napi21
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:05 PM
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1. Looks like just a "hard landing" to me. |
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Several tires blew upon landing in Miami. That most often happens when the piloy comes in too steep and too fast, the tires are already under tremendous pressure on a GOOD LANDING, but when a large aircrafthits the ground too fast and too hard, it will blow the tires causing a small fire in the wheel well. This kind of stuff happens rather frequently, so I have no idea why CNn is bothering with this as a story.
Slow News Day, I guess.
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:13 PM
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3. anyone injured? more info, please- feed the office slaves |
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:25 PM
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4. Nope, no injuries. They just couldn't pull the plane into the gate. |
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Like I said, this is A fairly common problem, and rarely, if everresults in any injuries.
CNN is already off that story.
My son is a mech forone of the lagacy carriersm nd they get info on almost every "accident" thathappens, almost everywhere. There was one recently, in CanadaI believe, where a plane flew through a large hail stormwhile at 34,000 ft. The plane was landed safely, but it will now need to be scrappedbecause of all the structural damage. The nose & radar was destroyed,, all landing lights gone,leading edge of the wingsbadly damaged, and who knows what else! when the plane landed, the Pilot &co-pilot both quit! I wish I could have sent you the pics Ireceived from my son that one! Of course CNN missed THAT ONE!
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:41 PM
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Thu Aug-31-06 03:07 PM
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12. Yep! That's the one! That one isvery frightening! |
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Good pilots though. They didn't have any landing lights either! I can't blame them for quitting!!!!
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Thu Aug-31-06 03:48 PM
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13. Scary hail damage shot. Bet they changed a few seat cushions that day! |
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I had a half-dollar sized hole in the radome of a Lockheed JetStar-II as a result of a lightning strike descending into Lake Charles many years ago. I've never had any hail damage .. thank goodness. It was primarily hail damage that brought down Southern 242 (DC-9-31) on April 4, 1977, killing 62 on the jet and eight on the ground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Airways_Flight_242
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Thu Aug-31-06 03:55 PM
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14. I've gotten quite a few small dents on leading edges from hail |
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and on the fuselage from ice slung off the hot props but why the hell would anybody fly a 727 into the top of a TSTM? If they were at FL350 there should be plenty of other directions to go...:eyes: arrgh
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Thu Aug-31-06 04:54 PM
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15. Yep. My philosophy on radar: |
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God gave us radar to keep from getting the aircraft's paint wet.
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Thu Aug-31-06 06:34 PM
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16. Heehee, some of my rides didn't have radar... |
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was in the soup one summer day going into DCA, hit a patch of hail and SVR TRBL. I -think- it might have been the edge of a tornado but couldn't see anything. This was in a 310 - it damn flipped us upside down and a heavy optical machine in one of the back seats bounced up and damn near bonked me on the head, I didn't notice my passenger (brother of a future Senator from Oklahoma) who loaded it hadn't strapped the damn thing in. I did a real fast 180, called ATC and said I was going back to where I just came from. Took most of the paint off the leading surfaces.
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Thu Aug-31-06 08:25 PM
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17. I flew U-8s and C-47s from Ft. Sill. |
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No radar, ever. It's the Army way.
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Thu Aug-31-06 08:41 PM
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19. I only have a few hours in a C47 (well, the DC3 version) |
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probably the easiest taildragger to fly I ever encountered. :-)
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Thu Aug-31-06 08:59 PM
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20. Indeed. Hardest tail-dragger? |
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For me it was a 1936 Tiger Moth with no brakes and a tail skid. It belonged to an EAL captain friend of mine (a Frenchman who learned to fly in gliders in Switzerland and learned English in South Texas as a military flight instructor during Viet Nam).
I landed that damned Tiger Moth in Thomaston, Georgia, with my bride-to-be in the back seat, on a blustery February day in 1973. Direct cross-wind .. 15 G 25. After about twenty seconds on the asphalt (and about ten seconds before the ground-loop) , I said "fuck-it!" (she couldn't hear .. leather helmet and all that!).
I goosed the Gypsy-Major motor and re-flew the Moth to the grass between the runway and the taxiway. Then I pulled back on the stick, and stopped the Tiger Moth on a sod dime!
Mac
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:59 PM
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7. I may bend your precious airplane, but I'll get it down |
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Thu Aug-31-06 02:06 PM
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8. Tire, brake, and wheel-well fires .. |
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Most tire, brake, and wheel-well fires are an aftermath of medium to high-speed rejected (aborted) takeoffs. That is where the brakes get the hottest.
"Riding" the brakes while taxiing heavy aircraft, especially if the brakes are already hot from a quick-turn (a la Southwest), has caused numerous blown tires and fires.
Anti-skid failures often result in blown tires on landing, as do very hard landings; both generating a lot of black "smoke," and occasionally a wheel fire.
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:06 PM
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2. Oh, man. I completely misread that headline the first time I saw it... |
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I thought it meant that US planes were shooting at the Miami runway.
Well, I'll enjoy my flight to Orlando this weekend even less now.
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Thu Aug-31-06 01:49 PM
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Thu Aug-31-06 02:09 PM
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10. All in want of a hyphen! |
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US Airways aircraft-fire on MIA runway. Too late to fix O/P.
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Thu Aug-31-06 02:06 PM
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Thu Aug-31-06 08:30 PM
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18. Brakes! I'm sick of these M/F brakes on these M/F planes! |
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Thu Aug-31-06 02:19 PM
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11. Link to story (CNN.COM) |
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