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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:50 PM
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Poll question: Malloy Poll: Want him back -- or -- Glad to see him go...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:53 PM
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:19 PM
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33. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:06 PM
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:06 PM
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32. Mike back, elsewhere on a national platform and not back to AAR.
Someone else is writing hoping that he might get onto XM Radio - an ideal home for him would be either XM Talk Radio (which has Ed Schultz on there and others of various political leanings - and non political talk too) or even better would be High Voltage - which would be uncensored, unleashed and heck... Malloy followers would love him if he could really rip a new one in certain people's behinds without having to hold back or say "I can't say that on air" because on satellite radio he can say that.

Mark.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:13 PM
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3. I couldn't care less.
But the attacks against AAR, alleging that they're "not progressive" or "DLC run" need to stop, pronto. It's fucking ridiculous. People forget how hard it was to even get AAR started and running in the first place and now we want to tear it down because one person got fired? Completely absurd.

We've got more important fights in front of us, not the least of which is the November elections. Let's get back to fighting REAL enemies, like Republicans, shall we?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:18 PM
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4. For one DJ people seem to be willing to boycott AAR
into non-existence. Mike will find air again if enough people want him too, but decisions in radio made by the corporate heads are changed about as often as republican talking points, never.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:20 PM
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6. Remember...
Liz Winstead??
Marc Maron??
Katherine Lampher??

Who next?

Its not just ONE DJ person that makes people willing to boycott AAR. Its just that this kinda thing has been happening for a while.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:26 PM
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7. It could have come down to simple ratings
I know it feels like his ratings should be awesome but if AAR uses industry standard Arbitron, in my opinion one of the most flawed ratings systems in existence, then through no fault of his own his ratings may have tanked.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:23 PM
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36. You don't put someone on 10pm to 1am and expect to get ratings. n/t
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:20 PM
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5. Malloy is a great fighter of Repugs but has been silenced for now. n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:31 PM
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8. See that? I made a choice just for you...
I try to be fair....
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:09 PM
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20. You got it...
this bashing of AAR is is one of the stupidest things I've seen on DU, and I've seen some really stupid things here.

I don't know if it was even worth trying the incredible uphill battle of starting a network rather than a syndication scheme, but they did it without major media backing on a wing and a prayer and did a damn good job of it even with the early mistakes and connivery.

It's been around for long enough now where investors and backers are looking at the books and know it should be making money at this point, and they have to decide how to keep it going. Or whether to keep it going, even on life support. Is it a real network, or a charity case?

So, here we have another crucial crossroad and what do these great progressive activists do-- just say "Fuck 'em" and drop them because they don't pass the purity test.

It's sickening, and don't ask the whiners to work in the November elections-- they'll most likely fuck that up, too.





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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:15 PM
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23. Agreed, it's scary to see such mentality here on DU
Though, unfortunately, this certainly isn't the first time I've seen such foolish behavior here.
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:36 AM
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38. Since you see yourself as so set apart, why are you here?
If you're such a non-fan of Mike's, why do I keep seeing you pop up on the threads about him? Seems to me that THAT'S what you might call "foolish behavior." They've got some nice threads on hobbies and special interests...maybe you want to check them out?

Go ahead though, say what you want...just don't be surprised when you have to take some heat when you place yourself in threads you claim to be against the main topic of. People are angry, upset, and venting, yet, here you are, always stirring the pot. Is that what YOU call united? Seems you and I have a different idea of what divisiveness is all about.

And you are more than welcome to take it off the board with me.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:45 PM
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30. I agree.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:27 PM
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25. And that, folks, is why the left can't win
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 05:28 PM by WildEyedLiberal
NOTHING is ever good enough. NO ONE can ever meet the ridiculously impossible standards the left sets - no politician, no spokesman, no writer or radio host or magazine or radio station or anyone propagating liberal thoughts and ideas anywhere could ever possibly live up to the expectations the left has.

Al Gore wasn't "progressive" enough in 2000 so FUCK HIM!!!!!!!!

That kind of thinking got us Bush.

John Kerry wasn't "progressive" enough in 2004 so FUCK HIM!!!!!!!

That kind of thinking - and fuck yes, that attitude was still there in 2004 - got us Bush, AGAIN.

AAR doesn't have enough "progressives" on air and then they FIRE the ONLY "progressive" they have so FUCK THEM!!!!!!!!

That kind of thinking will just give Rush and Hannity and Savage uncontested control of the airwaves.

While the Republicans have focused ALL their resources on demonizing Democrats and liberals, the left seems to think it's a fucking great idea to spend all its resources demonizing.... Democrats and liberals. Then, as Republicans win another election, they start bitching because Democrats and liberals are out of power. Then they blame the Democrats and liberals for being out of power, and the whole ugly process starts all over again. No one is more effectively self-defeating than the American left - hell, with friends like that, who the hell needs enemies? The "progressive left" spends almost as much of its time convincing people not to vote Democratic as Republicans do. And then they wonder why neocons have taken over our country? Maybe they should look in the fucking mirror.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:09 AM
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45. Amen WildEyed Liberal!
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 04:09 AM by saracat
This is what I have been trying to say in several threads but hello, nobody home.Some would rather be their own version of "right" than elected.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:48 AM
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46. I wish I could K&R this post alone.
DU has been overwhelmed with the demonizers you speak of lately, which is incredibly sad because we're in a great position to finally wrest power from the Republicans. I really hope we're not wasting too many resources destroying each other instead of destroying the real enemy.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:33 PM
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9. I want to be able to listen to him
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 02:33 PM by sakabatou
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:33 PM
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10. Honestly? I don't care.
I don't like talk radio at all. I'm not a fan of propaganda, no matter which end of the political spectrum it's coming from. If I want topical radio I'll listen to the BBC World Service.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:48 PM
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11. Excellent poll - simple and helpful
Thank you. Obviously, I want him back. I do not think he's one to win hearts and minds of republicans with second thoughts, ever. But he keeps a lot of us sane, and provides power to NGU.

I can perfectly see his shouting and other rough edges can turn people off, even if they are close to him politically. But there's no point in discussing style, suffice to say that he has a large and loyal following here on DU. Thanks for giving us another chance to show that Junkdrawer.

We need some like him, and some like Peter B Collins, that I saw being recommended yesterday. I gave it a shot (what with no Mike and all) and must say his rational thinking and calm demeanor can win over people in the middle or the other side.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:04 PM
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13. Thanks. Last night there was a completely-off-the-wall poll...
clearly meant to diss Malloy fans.

I think polls are useless unless they're fair.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:53 PM
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14. I know which one you mean
and it frustrated me too.
As I'm not a participant in the US political process I tend to stay unimpacted by the flames on DU, but yesterday I came very close to flaming myself when seeing the spiteful and inconsiderate posts.

I now understand better how issues can drive apart a community which has mainly shared goals (like during primaries).
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:02 PM
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12. Until and unless Mike returns, AAR is ancient history in my house!
:mad:
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:04 PM
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15. I've only listened to Mike for a few minutes...
and found his style indigestible. And from what I understand, his show is on late at night which is a time I don't listen to radio anyway. But it's been made more than obvious that he has a following and many people appreciate his style. If anything, his hate-talk helped balance the right-wing hate-talk from the likes of Hannity and Limbo. All that being said, and even though I don't listen to him and will probably never listen to him, he apparently provided a needed service to many people, so I'd like to see him either come back to AAR or find airtime at another place where his fans can enjoy his rhetoric again.

So bring back Mike.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:24 PM
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17. Very considerate of you. Thanks! Empathy is key
in all meaningful conversation, and you showed a big measure of it in your post.

I applaud your rational response.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:05 AM
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41. God O' Mighty.........
Mike's hate talk? Are you talking about his rants against our current leadership and his conservatives counterparts on the radio? Tell me how exactly that compares at all to the raving lunatics who attack and slime with lies and racism. He is railing against those who would disparage people because of race, gender or economic status. Mike is not a racist or a liar. There is no comparison.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:21 AM
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48. No, I'm talking about when he says..
"I hate this.." "I hate that..." "I hate those..." "My pet hate...." Not even the most rabid Malloy fan can deny that he doesn't spew hate-talk. Just because he hates the same things you do, doesn't declassify it as hate. Hate is hate - no matter what the talking points.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:24 AM
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49. So from a few minutes of listening...
You've determined that all Mike said was I hate this and that for 3 hours a night?
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:56 AM
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50. Nope. I get that from the postings over the last few days from his fans.
Are his fans lying about that? But the few minutes I happened to catch one evening he was on a monologue about how hate is like a pet to him - he pets it, feeds it, strokes it, nurtures it. Just sounded really odd to me. He was even making baby talk saying "c'mere hate baby, I lub you.." Just not my cup o' tea. But it is apparently for a lot of people. And just like I wouldn't want my favorite shows taken off the air, I don't want other people's favorite shows taken off the air.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:19 PM
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16. I've never listened to him, as he is not on our local affiliate.
WWRC-AM- 1260 has not carried him. So I can't say one way or the other.
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Ranec Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:27 PM
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18. I liked listening to him,
and I also appreciated that he wasn't just like the other hosts on AAR.

You knew you were going to get passionate (crazy?) rants, and if you were in the mood for that then you tuned in.
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pdxmike Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:41 PM
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19. hasta la vista
Loud, obnoxious, dismissive, confrontational, not amusing. Malloy came off as the AAR version of Limbaugh. We don't need that crap.
Now, I know he had his fans. But he's preaching to the choir. If someone (a non true believer) stumbled on to his show, I bet he'd drive them away. Give me Thom Hartman any day. He's every bit as commited as Malloy, but not nearly as obnoxious.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:14 PM
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22. Informed, passionate, serious, contextual, topical
None of those things are Rush Limbaugh, but they are Mike Malloy. If he is not your bag, then fine, but many of us enjoy Mike and feel we need him. The fact that he is preaching to the choir is precisely why we love him and why he is needed.

Perhaps it would be best if you did not be so hasty to speak of what we need and do not need. Speak only for yourself.
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:17 PM
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24. He is according to Rush-Fans /gag
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pdxmike Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:02 PM
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31. fair enough
and if Malloy rings your bell, that's great. My point is that the reason an AAR is important is not so much to make US happy, but to help change the debate. I want the casual listener who comes across AAR to want to stick around and listen. I don't want him/her to feel like their being beaten over the head.
I've listened to Malloy since he started on AAR. The guy is obviously bright and in the know. But- IMHO- if he could chill the rhetoric, he'd be a much more effective voice.

BTW- I was speaking only for myself
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:09 AM
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43. His rhetoric is the reason why I tune in.........
The only one who truly expresses the rage towards our current situation with the vitrol it deserves.
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:31 AM
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37. Good response.
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:41 AM
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40. Too bad you didn't preface it with "In my opinion." In MY opinion,
I find your remarks "obnoxious, dismissive, confrontational and not amusing." You don't know the first thing about Mike Malloy.
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FUGW Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:02 PM
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51. Preaching to the choir is what talk radio is all about.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:10 PM
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21. My boycott of AAR starts today! Until they bring Mike Malloy back!
I'll miss Randi and Sam and RFK. That's it. The rest of it is oatmeal-brained, DLC-vetted pablum. Talk about NOT FUNNY--try Al Franken. Mike is both funny and angry--and he is angry at things that DESERVE ANGER. To call that hate-speech is wrong and slanderous.

Randi, Sam, RFK, I urge you to use your combined influence, because AAR's decision to go Bush-lite has lost you this listener--and, believe me, YOU'RE NEXT!

Anybody who opposes Diebold and thus wrecks Christopher Dodd's move to be the Bilderberg President of the United Corporate States of America will be ripped from the air. Mark my words. This is no small deal. This is IT.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:28 PM
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27. Peace Patriot, have you ever listened to Peter B. Collins? I think
you'd enjoy him. He's put election reform RIGHT UP FRONT.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:27 PM
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26. Returned to the AAR lineup, please!
I said PLEASE, and since I live in a very red area I'm growing weary of trying to be nice!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:32 PM
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28. AAR has just become part of the problem NOT part of the solution. nt
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:39 AM
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39. Well said...too bad others are naeive to what's going on there.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:34 PM
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29. I want Mike back
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PresidentWar Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:22 PM
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34. Liked his show, wish the personality cultists would quit bitching
about a radio station letting him go. Its reality in radio, kids. Learn to live with it. Get on top of the game or GET OUT of the business.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:19 AM
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44. Ugly, friend.
"personality cultists", "kids", claiming people don't understand how radio works. Oh and "learn to live with it", that one sounds familiar.

Is that really neccessary?
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haydukelives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:22 PM
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35. Um
this is a no brain-er
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:06 AM
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42. Mike Malloy is THE BEST political commentator and talk show host
working in radio today! He passionate anger at the Bush Crime Family has never caused him to be impolite to a caller. Never! He is a gentleman. That's why he can't abide Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and all the other ghouls in power. He aims his anger at the RIGHT TARGETS and he hits them every time, right between the eyes. Unerring!

His show yesterday on Katrina is the best thing I've heard on radio--ever!

You know what I heard on AAR this morning? Some shill for Al Franken calling Christopher Dodd on vacation in Ireland, so Dodd could go on and on and on and on about running for president in '08. JFK, blah, blah, blah, JFK, blah, blah, blah. I haven't heard such a load of tripe since George Bush read "My Pet Goat."

Christopher Dodd is the traitor Bilderberg 'Democrat' who colluded with Tom Delay and Bob Ney--the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress, now indicted or resigned in bribery scandals--to bring us TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote tabulation, owned and controlled by Bushite corporations.

Mike Malloy silenced. Christopher Dodd to be Diebolded into the White House in '08.

Here's what Dodd said: "Hillary's in trouble with the anti-war people." Kerry? Gore? We don't want anybody who lost. (LOST!!!) It's ME! It's ME! I'm gonna be prezydent! Ha, ha, ha-ha, ha! Dieboldy-Diebold! I get (s)elected! Me! Me! Me!

The anti-war people. So, reading an old page of history (1964, LBJ), we now know who is going to conduct the "more efficient" Democratic slaughter in the Middle East, and make us all feel grateful to the Corporate Rulers because he's not Bush.

You know what? I'll take Hillary over this asshole any day. SHE voted AGAINST the Delay-Ney-Dodd "Help America Vote Act." She and Schumer. The ONLY TWO Democratic Senators who did so! Go figure.

I think we have better chance to restore our right to vote under Hillary--if that's the "choice."

----------------------------

But, really, I don't think we can afford to wait. We have got to throw these election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW! This November! And I think the best way to do it is by MASSIVE Absentee Ballot voting. BOYCOTT the machines! FLOOD election officials with MOUNTAINS of paper AB votes, and create sufficient panic and crisis in the election theft system to FORCE reform NOW!

Bust the Machines--Vote Absentee!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 08:12 AM
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47. and this question
has caused some to exhibit the GOP bully-boy technique of puerile browbeating by some who cannot stand it if we don't all walk in lockstep in outrage over something that barely registers for me because of its insignificance in the bigger scheme of things in my world.

In the words of Jerry Seinfeld: * shrug* That's a shame.

Effin hell. Apparently we are still in junior high school and I didn't get the memo.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:43 PM
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52. THERE YA GO, nearly 10 to 1, Malloy fans
I can understand if folks dont like him. But you know what? Sometimes I wanna vent, sometimes I vented with Mike.

When I first heard Mike on WLIB NYC, I found myself wanting to yell, in fact occasionally yelling back at mike, "Yeah you tell 'em Mike". The 2 other guys at work would join me "yeah thats right".
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