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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:15 PM
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New grounds for impeachment: illegal bombing of a soveign nation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060121/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_al_qaida_attack

By MUNIR AHMAD, Associated Press Writer
8 minutes ago

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's president told a senior American official Saturday the United States must not repeat airstrikes like the one that apparently was aimed at al-Qaida but killed civilians in a remote village, as officials sought to soothe public outrage over the attack.

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President Gen. Pervez Musharraf assured visiting U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns that Pakistan would not waver in its support for Washington's war on terrorism but said such airstrikes must not be repeated, a Foreign Ministry official said. The attack prompted nationwide protests calling for Musharraf's ouster. The comments were Musharraf's first publicized reaction to the Jan. 13 attack on the village of Damadola, near the border with Afghanistan.

The strike, which hit three homes in the mountainous Bajur tribal region, is believed to have killed at least four of al-Zawahri's close associates and at least 13 civilians, including women and children.

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In 1973, the House Judicary Committee voted on an article of impeachment against Richard Nixon introduced by Robert Drinan (supported by John Conyers, Elizabeth Holtzman, and others) for abuse of power in his authorization for the act.

Today, which Dem will have the spine to sponsor an article based on this latest * transgression to the list of impeachable offenses?


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GK24Aa01.html

Front Page Nov 24, 2005

Opening the Watergate floodgates
By Judith Coburn

On July 31, 1973, while the Vietnam war was still being fought, Representative Robert Drinan, a Massachusetts Democrat, introduced the first impeachment resolution against president Richard Nixon. One of the grounds for the indictment Drinan proposed was the secret bombing of Cambodia, ordered by the president. To Drinan, now a Jesuit priest, this was a crime at least as great as the domestic scandals that had already come to be known as "Watergate". The 14 months of massive B-52 "carpet bombings", which killed tens of thousands of Cambodian villagers and an unknown number of Vietnamese communist soldiers in border sanctuaries, were run outside the military's chain of command. They were also kept completely secret from Congress and the public (until exposed by New York Times reporter William Beecher).

In recently released transcripts of telephone conversations between Nixon and his closest aides, the president ordered "a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia anything that flies on anything that moves". (The transcript then records an unintelligible comment that "sounded like Haig laughing".) The secret bombing of Cambodia involved the same abuse of power and political manipulation of government agencies as Watergate, but only a few Congressional representatives such as John Conyers, Elizabeth Holtzman and Edward Mezvinsky supported Drinan's Cambodia article, which was soundly defeated by the House impeachment committee 26-12.

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Few now remember that it was Indochina, not the burglary of Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Complex, that really set Watergate, the scandal, in motion and led to a pattern of presidential conduct that seems eerily familiar today. In his 1974 book, Time of Illusion, Jonathan Schell wrote of "the distortions in the conduct of the presidency, which deformed national politics in the Vietnam years - the isolation from reality, the rage against political opposition, the hunger for unconstitutional power, the conspiratorial mindedness, the bent for repressive action". He concluded that three presidents "consistently sacrificed the welfare of the nation at home to what they saw as the demands of foreign affairs". To recast an infamous Vietnam slogan: They had to destroy American democracy at home in order to save the world for democracy.

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The secret bombing of Cambodia involved the same abuse of power and political manipulation of government agencies as Watergate, but only a few Congressional representatives such as John Conyers, Elizabeth Holtzman and Edward Mezvinsky supported Drinan's Cambodia article, which was soundly defeated by the House impeachment committee 26-12.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:37 PM
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1. 'killed at least four of al-Zawahri's close associates"--this was refuted
at least that is what the article on LBn said today.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:19 PM
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7. It's unsubstantiated.
The reports last Saturday, I guess it was, said the bodies were removed and taken away. Presumably this was based on humintel.

The report today was that they looked in the last couple of days and couldn't find any physical evidence the AQ dudes were killed.

That leaves murk, not proof. I'm comfortable with error bars, even large ones.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:38 PM
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2. yet another one
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:39 PM
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3. I imagine that as long as Pak PM does not offically object--this will slid
e.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:06 PM
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5.  Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz denies reports of Al-Qaeda operatives' death

in US airstrike

Indo-Asian News Service
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1604377,00050001.htm

United Nations, January 21, 2006

"As of an hour ago, when I last checked with security agencies combing the area, they have not found any tangible evidence that a particular group or any individual was there," Aziz told reporters on Friday evening after a meeting with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan at the UN headquarters in New York.

Aziz reiterated that his government condemned the US air strike, which has sparked massive protests in many Pakistani cities. He said he would raise the issue when meeting with US President George W Bush in Washington next week.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:58 PM
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4. Call me crazy but I consider the action to be...
state ordered murder.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:09 PM
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6. What does George Bush have to do before he is call to account?
Murder babies on the steps of the White House?

Kidnap YOUR grandmother and fly her to the Ukraine?

I just cannot believe the inertia.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:33 PM
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8. It all stems from the Joint Resoluton as posted on the WH website
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2382761&mesg_id=2382761

This Joint Resolution is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ! "...as he determines..." ignores the WPA of 1973.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:39 PM
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9. This is grounds. Who said bomb Pakistan? Congress?
Say good night Georgie. Adios.

Recommended...and thanks for the trip down good memory lane.
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