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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:30 AM
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"I'm not calling you a racist or a homophobe; I'm calling you a sucker."

I hope this makes sense to all of you without the context of the post from a conservative that proceeded it; I just hit 'the groove' writing this in response to something I was directed by DU to read on a site called 'olbermanwatch', and I thought I'd share.

Normally, I don't go to the other side of the fence to throw punches, but Olberman's piece was really an inspiration:'

"Riverdog;

The 'liberal definition of manhood'? You're hilarious. Seriously, you're making me laugh.

Tell us everything you know about Liberal Progressivism; enthrall us with your acumen, why don't you?

I can't wait to hear your take, your sage, studied, researched and reasoned thinking on the matter. For clearly, you've studied us. I would imagine your library is lined floor-to-cieling with volumes and volumes and volumes. You have a library in your trailer, right?

For instance; why don't you give us all a rundown on the history of the development of the movement; major thinkers, historical milestones, important books. I'll happily do the same on the origins and evoloution of modern conservatism and it's subsequent degeneration in to neoconservative crap.

Just curious, tough guy; why aren't you in Iraq?

If so strong is your faith in the cause, if so just is the President, if he's indeed been installed by God the Almighty to lead America and if you're such a tough guy, what's keeping you out of the fight against terror?

Hiding behind my keyboard? I don't see your home address on any of your posts, bruiser. And I don't see you filing from Basra, either.

And for the record; those of us on the left are interested in CHECKING power run amok; you're confusing us with people who slather at the prospect of unlimited power, unlimited money, and equally unlimited corruption.

You know; the Republicans with more money than you.

The kind that prey on fear and prejudice for personal advantage; fear and prejudice which you have completely demonstrated you have in spades.

Politics works this way, on both sides of the aisle:

It's the art of getting money from the rich and votes from the poor by promising to protect each party from the other.

Liberals scream that you have to hate oil companies and the exclusivity of whites-only country clubs to their constituents that are poor, and then turn around and collect money from the wealthy by insinuating that everybody who lives in the south is a fucking ignorant anti-science redneck retard that we must defend against.

Conservatives scream that you have to hate Hollywood and the ACLU and the UN to their poor constituents, and then turn around and get money from their rich donors by promising to protect them from Mexicans, Niggers and Faggots.

Any time I read something by an angry guy named 'riverdog', it's really not that hard to extrapolate who you are:

You're the middle-class to poor blue-collar guy on the GOP side of the aisle who's been told that he has to hate Hollywood, and Fags, and Limousine Liberals (though most of us are now in low-emmission vehicles, because we give a shit about our country and it's future, beyond next week).

And the actuality is that you're probably a reasonably good guy that has a lot of friends and enjoys a beer and a foot ballgame and a barbeque. Or a few beers and a few football games and a lot of barbeque.

Just like the guys on our side.

Yet, you've bought in to it.

And because you subscribe to hate, well, that makes you kind of a sucker. Notice; I'm not calling you a racist or a homophobe; I'm calling you a sucker.

The kind who unwittingly follows some bad, bad people who claim to share your religious faith, the easiest lie a politician will *ever* tell you.

The next time you listen to Rush; ask yourself how many times an hour he gives you an admonition to hate another, for whatever reason.

Then ask yourself exactly how Christian that kind of rhetoric is.

Then ask yourself how much you're getting used by these guys. Have you had that beer yet with the President? Hit the links with Rush lately?"

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:32 AM
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1. It makes PERFECT sense.
Right On!:toast:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:34 AM
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2. A thing of beauty dave!
:hug:
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:36 AM
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3. Very Very good essay
K&R

They definitely are suckers, through and through.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:47 AM
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4. .
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:51 AM
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5. That is awesome
A thing of beauty.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:55 AM
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6. More than likely you were responding to a 15 year old nitwit.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:06 AM
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7. I hope you're right; the dude was flailing around pretty badly...

Hate, hate, hate; completely brainwashed against reason...kind of weird...reading his whole composition was to hear him parroting bits of talking-points rhtetoric, and pretty obvious ones, too. I shudder to think that what I read came out of a taxpayer.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:10 AM
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8. It did come by way of a taxpayer, the synthesis of the dinner table
rants of the nitwit's old man.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:25 AM
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9. Yes. I am familiar with this dinner table tactic.

It's probably the very thing that drove me out of the GOP.

To my Dad's credit, however, he did teach me to fight for what I believe in, and make a cogent argument about my beliefs even under withering fire.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:04 PM
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12. Well, turns out the guy is like 50-something.

And he can't turn off his 'dittos' thing; called me a 'Homofascist', which....well, I seriously didn't understand what the hell he meant. Fascism is the confluence of state and corporate interests, right? How do gays work in to that, again?

I tried, really tried to reach out to the guy, but he just kept insisting that he knew everything he needed to know about progressives....kind of sad.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:29 PM
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14. Sometimes those people are in prison & have access to a computer
You never know who you are dealing with.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:32 AM
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10. daaaaaa-uuuuuuuuuuummnnnnn!1 n/t
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:43 PM
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11. Sliced and diced. Cut 'em to shreds, mate. Well done. n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:24 PM
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13. so beautifully and elegantly put.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:42 PM
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15. Excellent. Truthful. nt
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:42 PM
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16. Okay, so he reads my posts.
And then fashions even greater insights into the truth.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:20 AM
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17. That is beautiful Dave
well done
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:35 AM
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18. I really like this part ...

"Politics works this way, on both sides of the aisle:

It's the art of getting money from the rich and votes from the poor by promising to protect each party from the other."

The problem with our entire political system, summed up in two sentences. Brilliant.

K&R

:kick:

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