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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:22 PM
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Man fucks with whale....whale dies.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 02:24 PM by spanone
They just announced that the whale from the Thames river died after they hauled him into a boat and showed him the way home.

Earlier today, CNN had a 'name the whale' contest. I hope they got him named before he died.
:sarcasm:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:24 PM
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1. Shit!!!
And what was the problem with just leaving him there? Some inconvenience to Man I bet.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:38 PM
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26. Whale couldn't live in the Thames
a whale needs the ocean, they were trying to help it.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:24 AM
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28. And what is the whale going to eat in the Thames?
It would die of starvation.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:18 PM
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29. Oh, right . . . .
stupid me.

So, since the whale was going to die in the river, they were taking a gamble on succeeding in freeing it, but they and the whale lost.

Man, that's so sad I don't like even thinking about it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:22 PM
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30. I could think of a few candidate to keep him well fed
Tewny Bleh Tony Blair, for starters.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:26 PM
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2. The whale got real ill before they tried this in desperation.
It's worth recalling that the Thames is not the healthiest water on this big blue sphere of ours.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:28 PM
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3. I am no marine biologist - but I doubt the whale could have
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 02:29 PM by FLDem5
survived in definitely in the Thames.
http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=332704&lng=1
<snip>
"It was very much alien territory for the Northern Bottle Nose and experts warned it would die unless it returned to the open. But it became clear the giant mammal had become too exhausted and disoriented to do this by itself and would need help."



The people who tried to rescue it hardly seem like cruel corporatists.

http://www.bdmlr.org.uk/pages/main.html
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:30 PM
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5. What she said
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:30 PM
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6. I blamed no one. Cruel corporatists????
Maybe the whale was fucking with us?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:42 PM
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9. I just meant that all involved had the best interest of the whale in mind
and they didn't mess with it out of anything but necessity.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:30 PM
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4. How sad.. I heard he was very ill already. n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:38 PM
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7. Winning name:
"Lucky"
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:11 PM
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27. Was the honestly the name?
Not that I doubt you (and I hope I'm not being gullible and naive)...it's just amazing how low these channels will stoop for these stupid stories.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:34 PM
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34. No, I was referencing an old joke:
a handbill posted on a telephone pole:

LOST DOG

Brown with scabs

One Eye

Tail Missing

Walks with Limp

Answers to "Lucky"
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:39 PM
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8. Saline content
Whales cannot live long in fresh water, they need salt water. Only exception I know of is the river dolphins in South America. There was already something wrong with this whale, I think folks did the best they could.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:52 PM
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11. Plus it might be a stretch to call the Thames "fresh"
It has to be a polluted mess.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:32 PM
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16. Not as bad as it used to be
Salmon swim up it, and seals and dolphins are occasionally seen in the stretch where the whale was. But the whale normally feeds in the deep Atlantic - it was a long way from its normal habitat.

With 120 fish species, hundreds of thousands of birds, and a thriving fishing industry, the river now ranks among the cleanest metropolitan tideways in the world.

Ecologists say the Thames owes its revival to pollution control, which has vastly improved water quality.

Commercial fishers are among those reaping the benefits today, taking impressive hauls of eel, sea bass, and Dover sole, said Steven Colclough, a fisheries scientist with the U.K. government's Environment Agency. Colclough said the river is now the largest Dover sole fishery in England and Wales.

The fisheries scientist added that flounder, mullet, and smelt—now present throughout London—are being joined by fish that only tolerate waters untainted by pollution.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0421_050422_riverthames.html
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:15 PM
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25. I think people remember it before they left to the US colonies
and back then, it was apparently even the bane of parliament on
stinky summer's night.

They tell quite a yarn about the stink at the tower of london
tour at the thames gate. :-)

There are cinema misconceptions spread about europe in the US,
watching too many history channel episodes and not getting
with the now.
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:23 PM
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13. Frustrating, but you gotta try
I've been involved in wildlife rescue for many years, it is always heartbreaking to lose one, but you just can't give up.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:25 PM
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31. True. But how long before AnnCoulter argues this is proves welfare state
is making whales dependenct on Greenpeace handouts, or some such blather.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:47 PM
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10. per the Marine vets the whale was in better shape
than they thought before they started the barge attempt.

I have been watching this on and off all morning on CNN.

It is just sad that the whale did not make the 40+ mile barge trip :cry:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:21 PM
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12. that is so sad -- and unlike you
i wish they had intervened sooner.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:27 PM
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14. Do you know what "fuck" means? It isn't just any old thing you are too
lazy to find a legitimate verb for.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:44 PM
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18. Always been a legitimate verb to me.
:)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:23 PM
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20. Though I don't know what you mean by it
Since you think it means something without blame - and I would have said "to fuck with" means to interfere, to screw up. Do you really use it to mean "to try to help"?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:28 PM
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33. Good fuck there, BeamMeUp. You fucked the OP good there. Fuckin' A.
Well, I'm finished fucking around here. Guess it's time for me to fuck off and go take care of some shit.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:41 PM
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36. !
:rofl:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:29 PM
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15. i see it as man attempting to save a sick whale. Apparently he had
an infection beneath his left eye and was extremely scarred up. I think you are being a little bit harsh over a legitimate rescue attempt.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:38 PM
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17. Hadn't he already tried to beach himself a couple if times?
He would have died anyway without help. It's sad but these whale rescues don't work all that often. Still you gotta try.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:56 PM
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19. blame the fucking sonar they were using at the time he got lost
that is apparently what drove him upriver, offcourse and injured him. MFers.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:23 PM
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21. Source? I hadn't heard that anywhere. (n/t)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:33 PM
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23. I heard it on either a BBC or CNNI report on tv yesterday
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 04:39 PM by leftchick
they said the use of sonar by the military in the area was the most likely reason for the whale to be so far off course and for its apparent injuries. I would guess that they have since scrubbed it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:24 PM
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22. you scared me the way you worded your heading
The poor thing.
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:34 PM
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24. Catchy Title
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:26 PM
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32. Really. When I first read it, I missed the word "with" and got an image...
...a very bad image in my head.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:36 PM
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35. heh heh heh, I don't think it was there.... you been punked.
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